If everyone will be saved then what's the point of the sacrifices?

[JonesHenry]

This is a REALLY TOUGH question!


I personally believe that Jesus warned of hes fathers WRATH towards all sin and literally "age lasting correction"



Age kolasting correction = Kolasis Aionios



I dont know much about Aramic. Aramic is actually split into atleast 2 or more differen versions. Not a really easy language to learn and to study anyway :eek:



I mean in Greek if you want to write = age lasting DESTRUCTION then that would be = Oletrhos Aionios



Or never ending TORMENT! That would be Timoria Aionios or Timorion Aidion!



I believe Jesus came here to warn us about hes fathers WRATH!



Then again...the Greek words used for wrath in the Book of revelation are Orge and Thumos. BOTH actually mean great passion and DESIRE!


"For the LORD your God is a consuming fire, a jealous God"

Deuteronomy 4:24



"for our "God is a consuming fire"

Hebrews 12:29



Jesus warned of a fiery furnace where there will be great pain and gnashing of teeth!



"If your eye causes you to stumble, cast it out. It is better for you to enter into God's Kingdom with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into the Gehenna* of fire, 'where their WORM doesn't die, and the fire is not quenched.' For everyone will be SALTED WITH FIRE, and every sacrifice will be seasoned with salt."

Mark 9:47-49



"He answered them, "He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man,  the field is the world; and the good seed, these are the children of the Kingdom; and the darnel weeds are the children of the evil one. The enemy who sowed them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are angels. As therefore the darnel weeds are gathered up and burned with fire; so will it be at the end of this age. The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will gather out of his Kingdom all things that cause stumbling, and those who do iniquity, and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be WEEPING AND THE GNASHING OF TEETH Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the Kingdom of their Father. He who has ears to hear, let him hear. "

Matthew 13:37-43




This MUST be the lake of fire John in revelation is talking about!


"Another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a great voice, "If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead, or on his hand, he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is prepared unmixed in the cup of his anger. He will be TORMENTED with FIRE and BRIMSTONE in the PRESENCE of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb. The SMOKE OF THERE TORMENT goes up FOREVER AND EVER! They have NO REST day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name. Here is the perseverance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus."

Revelation:9-12



Please NOTE! The word "torment" here literally is Basanizo

http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/greek/kjv/basanizo.html



To REFINE something! Also what the WORMS & BRIMSTONE are related to!

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/12/141202-urban-insects-food-garbage-cities-animals-science

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/uses-of-sulfur.html



Personally i think it is related to THIS

"Behold, I send my messenger, and he will prepare the way before me; and the Lord, whom you seek, will suddenly come to his temple; and the messenger of the covenant, whom you desire, behold, he comes!" says Yahweh of Armies. "But who can endure the day of his coming? And who will stand when he appears? For he is like a REFINERS FIRE, and like launderers' SOAP;and he will sit as a REFINER AND PURIFIER of silver, and he will purify the sons of Levi, and refine them as gold and silver; and they shall offer to Yahweh offerings in RIGHTEOUSNESS!"

Malachi 3:1-3



God here is LITERALLY threatening to wash the mouths of all the blasphemous unbelievers with SOAP!


http://www.buzzle.com/articles/sulfur-soap.html



Only hes soap if going to be 100% SULFUR and not the 3% thats in that man made product!



Anyway that verse also speaks of "refiners fire"



Then again...i could be WRONG! Maybe someone with knowledge of Aramic can help me to fill the holes :sigh: :dunno2:

[rosered]

I believe you did well, Jonesy

  the Wrath of God is on the prideful  and   found in Babylon , in my opinion , Jesus took care of death on the Cross   

   now Babylon  this last   thing    being ''idolatries      ''   of man mixing the truth with lies     has got to be  separated and refined by Fire      

  when the roots system was not destroyed  , but left in the earth   By God ,on purpose I believe ,   in the book of Daniel   
King Neb's head was  gold   and the image he made was gold
     now that fire of Gods correction  would  melt the elements and refine it  right ?
Making it pure    and the   junk  removed


   we have this image   of mankind by those  4  beastly   kingdoms that  are attached to   King Nebs head of God    with all them other   elements , being  bronze and iron and silver  & clay  ,    this image is    utterly   obliterated       by the Image   of Jesus Christ     Gods Son 


  His roots in the earth are    solid     and they are the tree of Life     and the tree of knowledge of good and evil is   replaced   by Jesus tree of Life   

metaphors again    ,     hard to explain   but we get the gist of it by   metaphore  speech     

  I live on a farm  have you ever seen  them set the  fields and trees on fire   for    plowing a new   field ? 

  this fire gets rid of  even the seeds  and all the weeds and its a control method   when you don't want to us ''poison ''   


I see the Bible as all connected    as ONE  BIG  picture of GOD  HIMSELF  in your minds eye , since you cannot see a Spirit   with a natural eye
But we know that is just what He is , because He says so .   :icon_flower: