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dajomaco

Obama's Presidency  was instituted by God

A Christian's Duties to the State ] Everyone must submit to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except from God, and those that exist are instituted by God. So then, the one who resists the authority is opposing God's command, and those who oppose it will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have its approval. ...

Shev

Quote from: dajomaco on August 07, 2014, 09:35:19 PM
Obama's Presidency  was instituted by God

A Christian's Duties to the State ] Everyone must submit to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except from God, and those that exist are instituted by God. So then, the one who resists the authority is opposing God's command, and those who oppose it will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have its approval. ...


:thumbsup: Full agreement here!

micah7:9

Yep. Romans 13  :banana:

rsimpson14

This is a very good thread!

I can honestly say that I totally HATED this man!!! My carnal way of thinking ultimately was consuming me! I would get upset at just the mention of his name and when I would read about the things he was doing to this country it would make me so upset I thought I would bust.

Now I was revealed the truth of UR about 7 or 8 years ago and I was not letting the Spirit work in my life and was still dead in sin. After reading the tent maker site a month or so ago I realized just how carnal I was still and prayed that God would restore in me a clean and obeying heart.

Well let me tell you what a difference it has made in me and Jesus Christ has made me something I thought I could never be.

I can honestly say I love everyone and Obama included. I am not saying I agree with him and others I once hated or disliked but I can say that the love of Christ has made me a new creation. Of course every once in a while that carnality wants to creep in but I remember Who it is that has changed me and those thoughts are quickly removed.

I have a brother(sibling) that I had spoken with a few moths ago and he is a Christian and has been for several years. We were Obama bashing and all of a sudden he said that if he was assassinated it would not bother him at all. he also stated in a round about way "he will get his and he will burn in hell for all the wrong he has done". Well even then when I hated Obama this made my mouth drop!!! I thought to myself this is not right!!!!!!

I then told him that God is the one who puts one in authority and that it is possible that God may be showing this country a lesson. he was silent and really gave no specific answer to that.

Any who sorry for the long winded.

But I do see that love can only come through the Spirit of God and I feel much peace compared to a heart of hate. After all if God can love me then He does love everyone and I desire to be just like Him!!

Love thy neighbor as thy self. Love your enemies and do good to those who persecute you. Love is of God. We love Him because He first loved us.


Shev

Quote from: rsimpson14 on August 09, 2014, 07:02:00 PM
This is a very good thread!

I can honestly say that I totally HATED this man!!! My carnal way of thinking ultimately was consuming me! I would get upset at just the mention of his name and when I would read about the things he was doing to this country it would make me so upset I thought I would bust.

Now I was revealed the truth of UR about 7 or 8 years ago and I was not letting the Spirit work in my life and was still dead in sin. After reading the tent maker site a month or so ago I realized just how carnal I was still and prayed that God would restore in me a clean and obeying heart.

Well let me tell you what a difference it has made in me and Jesus Christ has made me something I thought I could never be.

I can honestly say I love everyone and Obama included. I am not saying I agree with him and others I once hated or disliked but I can say that the love of Christ has made me a new creation. Of course every once in a while that carnality wants to creep in but I remember Who it is that has changed me and those thoughts are quickly removed.

I have a brother(sibling) that I had spoken with a few moths ago and he is a Christian and has been for several years. We were Obama bashing and all of a sudden he said that if he was assassinated it would not bother him at all. he also stated in a round about way "he will get his and he will burn in hell for all the wrong he has done". Well even then when I hated Obama this made my mouth drop!!! I thought to myself this is not right!!!!!!

I then told him that God is the one who puts one in authority and that it is possible that God may be showing this country a lesson. he was silent and really gave no specific answer to that.

Any who sorry for the long winded.

But I do see that love can only come through the Spirit of God and I feel much peace compared to a heart of hate. After all if God can love me then He does love everyone and I desire to be just like Him!!

Love thy neighbor as thy self. Love your enemies and do good to those who persecute you. Love is of God. We love Him because He first loved us.

Thanks so much, rsimpson - your testimony makes the point powerfully indeed! We can view people with the carnal mind or with the mind of Christ, seeing them from an earthly perspective or a heavenly perspective. To be so caught up in this temporal world as to hate someone - anyone - is to suffer great damage and hindrance to our walk in Christ.

With folks like Obama, Christians often almost seem to "love him" with a grudging sigh, and in intellect only, rather than having the unconditional, powerful, all encompassing holy love of the father.

It is wonderful to think of the time when Obama, or any other sinner, eventually repents while starving in the pig sty of their flesh and sets their face towards home, to find their father running towards them with love in his eyes. May we be siblings that run alongside him enthusiastically and joyfully, rather than the older brother in the parable who was grumpy and sullen about the blessing of his brother's return.

Seth


rsimpson14

You are very welcome! The change that God has given me is truly amazing and when Christ said that the truth would set us free it SETS US FREE INDEED!!!

Shev

A hearty amen to that!

Searching_For_The_Truth

Quote from: rsimpson14 on August 09, 2014, 07:02:00 PM
This is a very good thread!

I can honestly say that I totally HATED this man!!! My carnal way of thinking ultimately was consuming me! I would get upset at just the mention of his name and when I would read about the things he was doing to this country it would make me so upset I thought I would bust.

Now I was revealed the truth of UR about 7 or 8 years ago and I was not letting the Spirit work in my life and was still dead in sin. After reading the tent maker site a month or so ago I realized just how carnal I was still and prayed that God would restore in me a clean and obeying heart.

Well let me tell you what a difference it has made in me and Jesus Christ has made me something I thought I could never be.

I can honestly say I love everyone and Obama included. I am not saying I agree with him and others I once hated or disliked but I can say that the love of Christ has made me a new creation. Of course every once in a while that carnality wants to creep in but I remember Who it is that has changed me and those thoughts are quickly removed.

I have a brother(sibling) that I had spoken with a few moths ago and he is a Christian and has been for several years. We were Obama bashing and all of a sudden he said that if he was assassinated it would not bother him at all. he also stated in a round about way "he will get his and he will burn in hell for all the wrong he has done". Well even then when I hated Obama this made my mouth drop!!! I thought to myself this is not right!!!!!!

I then told him that God is the one who puts one in authority and that it is possible that God may be showing this country a lesson. he was silent and really gave no specific answer to that.

Any who sorry for the long winded.

But I do see that love can only come through the Spirit of God and I feel much peace compared to a heart of hate. After all if God can love me then He does love everyone and I desire to be just like Him!!

Love thy neighbor as thy self. Love your enemies and do good to those who persecute you. Love is of God. We love Him because He first loved us.

Great testimony. As for me personally, I was optimistic about Obama in 2008 then I started to see the damage he was doing to the country during his presidency. I was hoping Romney would win in 2012 and was incredibly upset at how Obama and his cronies tried to smear him. Romney took the high road during the entire 2012 presidential campaign while Obama took the low road. I wish Obama all the best, I don't want anything bad to happen to him. However, I do pray that he repents and resigns from the Presidency immediately because he is doing more harm than good for this country right now.

rsimpson14

I too wanted Romney to win but this was not God's plan and I was so carnally minded that I could not see this. The anger and hatred I felt was consuming me!! I pretty much told God I was not happy and did not like the outcome but I thank God that he opened these blind eyes and changed that in my heart and mind.

Yes I pray for him to be drawn to the Father and to do what is right but of course we all know every thing according to God's will.

rosered

Quote from: Shev on August 09, 2014, 11:02:42 PM
Quote from: rsimpson14 on August 09, 2014, 07:02:00 PM
This is a very good thread!

I can honestly say that I totally HATED this man!!! My carnal way of thinking ultimately was consuming me! I would get upset at just the mention of his name and when I would read about the things he was doing to this country it would make me so upset I thought I would bust.

Now I was revealed the truth of UR about 7 or 8 years ago and I was not letting the Spirit work in my life and was still dead in sin. After reading the tent maker site a month or so ago I realized just how carnal I was still and prayed that God would restore in me a clean and obeying heart.

Well let me tell you what a difference it has made in me and Jesus Christ has made me something I thought I could never be.

I can honestly say I love everyone and Obama included. I am not saying I agree with him and others I once hated or disliked but I can say that the love of Christ has made me a new creation. Of course every once in a while that carnality wants to creep in but I remember Who it is that has changed me and those thoughts are quickly removed.

I have a brother(sibling) that I had spoken with a few moths ago and he is a Christian and has been for several years. We were Obama bashing and all of a sudden he said that if he was assassinated it would not bother him at all. he also stated in a round about way "he will get his and he will burn in hell for all the wrong he has done". Well even then when I hated Obama this made my mouth drop!!! I thought to myself this is not right!!!!!!

I then told him that God is the one who puts one in authority and that it is possible that God may be showing this country a lesson. he was silent and really gave no specific answer to that.

Any who sorry for the long winded.

But I do see that love can only come through the Spirit of God and I feel much peace compared to a heart of hate. After all if God can love me then He does love everyone and I desire to be just like Him!!

Love thy neighbor as thy self. Love your enemies and do good to those who persecute you. Love is of God. We love Him because He first loved us.

Thanks so much, rsimpson - your testimony makes the point powerfully indeed! We can view people with the carnal mind or with the mind of Christ, seeing them from an earthly perspective or a heavenly perspective. To be so caught up in this temporal world as to hate someone - anyone - is to suffer great damage and hindrance to our walk in Christ.

With folks like Obama, Christians often almost seem to "love him" with a grudging sigh, and in intellect only, rather than having the unconditional, powerful, all encompassing holy love of the father.

It is wonderful to think of the time when Obama, or any other sinner, eventually repents while starving in the pig sty of their flesh and sets their face towards home, to find their father running towards them with love in his eyes. May we be siblings that run alongside him enthusiastically and joyfully, rather than the older brother in the parable who was grumpy and sullen about the blessing of his brother's return.

  Great thoughts  and say Amen 

  when we look at Jesus  and  not at the  waters [many peoples tongues and nations]     we see Jesus  is our ALL
  He is the intercessor ,  The  Vine and we are the branches   , He is the good Shepherd  , Lamb of God  ,  the WORD  made flesh   He is   everything and everything will work out     , Hebrews 10 :7    Then I said, "See-- it is written about Me in the volume of the scroll-- I have come to do Your will, God!"
  God s desire will be  fulfilled  perfectly
  Love  has overcome the world  !! ,   and that is though  the source,   Jesus Christ and His  cross
as we, as well,  must bear our own   learn righteousness     

     John 16 33"These things I have spoken to you, so that'' in Me'' you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation,


but take courage; I have overcome the world."
Jesus is the reward  !!

UniversalSceptic

It makes me wonder if a republican would get just as much hate as Obama does. Aren't republicans the "Christian" side of the Government?

Searching_For_The_Truth

Quote from: UniversalSceptic on September 07, 2014, 08:23:42 PM
It makes me wonder if a republican would get just as much hate as Obama does. Aren't republicans the "Christian" side of the Government?

A Republican president would definitely get a lot of heat from the mainstream media like CNN, NBC, MSNBC, etc. Look at what happened to George W Bush (although I do admit that some of the criticism against Bush is legitimate but Obama doesn't always face the same level of scrutiny by the mainstream media as Bush did)

UniversalSceptic

Quote from: Searching_For_The_Truth on September 07, 2014, 10:32:14 PM
Quote from: UniversalSceptic on September 07, 2014, 08:23:42 PM
It makes me wonder if a republican would get just as much hate as Obama does. Aren't republicans the "Christian" side of the Government?

A Republican president would definitely get a lot of heat from the mainstream media like CNN, NBC, MSNBC, etc. Look at what happened to George W Bush (although I do admit that some of the criticism against Bush is legitimate but Obama doesn't always face the same level of scrutiny by the mainstream media as Bush did)
Well I was mostly referring to the Religious people in America, since they are the most vocal group. I was just six wondering if they would hate a republican in office as much as Obama.

Searching_For_The_Truth

Quote from: UniversalSceptic on September 07, 2014, 11:32:44 PM
Quote from: Searching_For_The_Truth on September 07, 2014, 10:32:14 PM
Quote from: UniversalSceptic on September 07, 2014, 08:23:42 PM
It makes me wonder if a republican would get just as much hate as Obama does. Aren't republicans the "Christian" side of the Government?

A Republican president would definitely get a lot of heat from the mainstream media like CNN, NBC, MSNBC, etc. Look at what happened to George W Bush (although I do admit that some of the criticism against Bush is legitimate but Obama doesn't always face the same level of scrutiny by the mainstream media as Bush did)
Well I was mostly referring to the Religious people in America, since they are the most vocal group. I was just six wondering if they would hate a republican in office as much as Obama.

Honestly, I don't think that would be the case since the Republican party is generally more conservative than the Democratic party

micah7:9

Yep. Romans 13  :banana:

Php 3:20  For our citizenship is in the heavens, whence also a Saviour we await--the Lord Jesus Christ--