Meaning of Christ's Death Revealed

Started by donken, May 01, 2014, 09:23:43 PM

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The scriptures, when understood physically, meaning after the manner of what the words mean physically and compatible with the natural physical world, is a parable understanding.  It is the understanding of the natural man, natural ADAM, the first state of every human being ever born and who will ever be born.

We are told to understand and share the Spirit that GIVES life as being the only Spirit we are to share.  The Old Testament and all physically understood scriptures are to be understood now by how God spiritually fulfills all the scriptures within us, destroying all the things that speak of or do evil.  In doing so, the believer will have all the spiritually motivated desires in them that disobey God's way "burned up" by the Love of God.  God's love destroys hate, anger, human jealousy, selfishness, unforgiveness, etc.  But the love must be ETERNAL, and in power, meaning eternally FELT and alive in us as who we are all the time.

Scripture says Jesus died from the foundation of the world, not before, but from.   What was done in Israel through Jesus' witness is that we were shown WHO died and what He was like.  This is necessary for us in the world because as children of God in the world we have never ever seen our parent.  God is invisible and Spirit.   So, Jesus had to show us what "died" or was to be resurrected in us as we become the completion of God's work in the creation with man.

In the natural process of conception and birth of a child, the maturity of the mature human adult {natural Adam} dies every time a child is conceived and born.
This has to happen because EVERY new creation that is started and is not yet finished is not going to be what it will be when finished {fully grown}.
The spirit of life in the parents {mom and dad} leaves mom and dad and their human adult maturity in the world, and takes on the form of an ova and fetus, and is eventually found in the likeness of a human {mankind} 

The spirit of life in the baby does this for the sake of the baby to "save" and allow the baby to be raised to an adult human.  Again, this is a parable of the spiritual process of man becoming the SON {body} of GOD IN THE WORLD in the flesh.

IN humanity, the maturity of the human adults is "resurrected" in the baby so the baby can become mature {completed?},   The baby is allowed to be short of the glory, ability, knowledge, and ways of an adult human UNTIL the baby can actually become an adult human, not only in size, but in knowledge and in manners.

If the life leaves the baby at any time, the baby never ever becomes an adult, therefore the life that was once dwelling with human adults is not captive to the immaturity of the baby and child.  This is allowed to be done by the spirit of life so the child may become part of the INCREASE of God's Kingdom with God ruling in the former child that is now an adult, with the full marriage of the flesh and Spirit as the SON OF GOD, Jesus Christ.

What died IN MAN and TO MAN'S understanding is GOD, and what the man OF GOD is like, which is always Jesus Christ the son of God who is ONE WITH GOD.

Jesus is mankind's "adult".  IF I am a potter making a vase, what the vase will be when finished is not able to be seen UNTIL it is finished.  Ie.. the vase, if it was alive, may think it was the image of the finished product already all along the way of it's formation toward the finish, just like man does now.

When the vase is finished only then would it know what it was going to be like all the time, unless there was another vase like it already beside it that it could see clearly and properly.  Since we are alive with life in us, God's life {seed}, we have to participate to become THE LIFE of THE WAY of Eternal lifeand know THE TRUTH.

So that is why we are forgiven when we are a baby and child spiritually and only know the spirit of the world and think that is how everything is, including God.  We now are to overcome "the world", or worldliness IN US as we have the way, the truth, and the life resurrected in us as our father FROM WITHIN THE LIFE ALREADY IN US as our life in the world. That is why man {the child} has been allowed to be evil and do horrible things at times, staying alive and in existence, until he\we can be matured with agreement and walk with God, the TWO OF US as one walk, mind, existence.    NO condemnation to any by us because we come to know what has been happening and why.   WE have to forgive all, because if we do not we are not yet forgiven.  Scripture says so.  But there is no accusation toward us from God.  As Jesus said, I will not accuse you, but Moses {spirit of the world, carnality} WILL accuse you.  Hear Christ.

God bless, in the love of Christ.  Donken.


donken

Thanks Ed.  Enjoy your existence in Christ and keep your peace.   If you lose that peace, know it is a guide.  God back to what is peaceful and let that which stirs you to disquiet go or stop doing it.  Follow THE SPIRIT and ... without peace and holiness no man shall SEE {know, understand, be as} God.

If you like what was written it is because that is who you are right now.  Things we do not like are contrary to who we are in heart at the time, even though what we do not like might be the truth and good thing.  Like, prejudiced people do not like what they are prejudiced like, and if they thought that was the spirit to follow then they would be deceived by their own "serpent".... law of sin in their members... the enmity in all immature children. even spiritual Christian children.

The heir, when a child, is under the elements of the world, or one with the world which is a living condition of good and evil in one "body".

Also, Paul tells us that Christians who walk as men and have envy and strife in them against each other are carnal and thus "not circumcised in heart\spirit yet".

By this I do not mean condemnation or pride, I say it that it may help us see ourselves for where each of us may be at this moment.

Bless, Donken