Local General Hospital Chapel

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Inside Jersey's hospital's chapel - the Chapel of the Good Shepherd.

Neither humour nor poetry nor hymns but it is very nice for some. Unfortunately my camera cannot show the exquisite detail that the artist created in these windows in 1891. I do not know who he is and neither does anyone else but I am researching it at present...

The Main Window
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/freespirit/chapel-pics-2013/main-window.jpg

These are what I think the artist was depicting but there is room for error on my part not being able to speak directly to the artist...

Top row - far left:
Christ healing the blind and crippled
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/freespirit/chapel-pics-2013/Christ-healing.jpg

Bottom row - first left:
Possibly the woman who touched Christ's garment
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/freespirit/chapel-pics-2013/Who-Touched-My-Garment.jpg

Top row- second left
"Mary then took a pound of very costly perfume of pure nard, and anointed the feet of Jesus and wiped His feet with her hair"
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/freespirit/chapel-pics-2013/Expensive_Ointment.jpg

Bottom row - second left:
Good Samaritan with robbers disappearing in background
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/freespirit/chapel-pics-2013/Good-Samaritan.jpg

Top row- centre:
Truth crucified
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/freespirit/chapel-pics-2013/Golgotha.jpg

Bottom row- centre:
Christ calms a storm
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/freespirit/chapel-pics-2013/Storm-Calmer.jpg

Top row - second from right:
Myrrh-bearers told by an angel Christ lives.
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/freespirit/chapel-pics-2013/He-is-Risen.jpg

Bottom row - second from right:
The Good Shepherd with five sheep
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/freespirit/chapel-pics-2013/Good_Shepherd.jpg

Top row - far right:
Christ appears to Mary Magdalene
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/freespirit/chapel-pics-2013/Magdalene-sees-Christ.jpg

Bottom row - far right:
Probably Solomon's famous wise judgement over two women's claim to one baby. 
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/freespirit/chapel-pics-2013/Solomon-pleading-woman.jpg

I do not know how long that web space will hold these pictures. I am sorry that the finer detail is not available. When the light is right, every hair in a beard can be seen. These impressions have seen me through my life's experiences over the last quarter of a century which is how long I have worked in this hospital. I thank the lady who paid for the window in 1891 in the Name of Christ.

There can never be enough done in the Name of Christ.

God Bless! Christ Bless!






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[WhiteWings]

Why are Jesus pictures always depressing. Never a smile.

[sheila]

coz He was the suffering servant until the resurrection.....but NOW He is the TRIUMPHANT VICTOR!!!!!!!!!

   the man acquainted with sorrow and affliction shall have joy unbound!!   

    Being the LIGHT that He is..it must have been very difficult the darkness that He come in.

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Why are Jesus pictures always depressing. Never a smile.

Perhaps there is something to the saying that beauty is in the eye of the beholder? I see a sacred reverence, a timeless yet personal spiritual Power, a firm and unshakeable compassion, a determined and steadfast mission, an unthinkable humility which by its very Nature transcends man's comprehension, a demonstration of a glorious ideal in the Master Exemplar, a completely Divine understanding of earthly life and the comforting this knowledge can bring to His little ones who seek to follow Him in the valley of misunderstanding, the promise of the certainty of a wondrous never-ending life that forever unfolds deeper and yet deeper loving revelations, a perfect reflection of a pulsating and loving Heart that beats continually throughout all time and shall do so without end.

[WhiteWings]

I'm not saying none of those things shouldn't be part or art.
It's just that the most important part seems to be missing.

Maybe my view of The Father is best compared with my relationship with my human father. My father is the one who gave me life together with my mother. He surely has authority, but he rarely wants it.  We tell jokes, we play games, we discuss, we do all sorts of activities. Etc.

I think that's the relationship The Father is looking for because it's for a reason He doesn't just call Himself Supreme Ruler, Big Boss etc. No He seems to talk in terms like Father, child, son, daugther, etc. He doesn't (only) want to be the distant Supreme Creator but the Daddy that pushes a swing.

Similar things can be said about Jesus, The Son, The Saviour.
Sure we should remember the great things He did for humanity.  That's a undenaible fact for me. So there should also be art on this topic.
But my very strong feeling is that Jesus above all is the Groom that wants to show love and affection to His bride. Have a cheerful weddingbanquet, share many funny moments with His bride. To summarize - Smile.

And it's that last part I miss in artwork. I think it's the ET spirit. Once again I admit the superiority in Father and Son and that should have it's part in artwork. But ET has turned Christianty into something with a smile.

"I'm Jesus and I came to bring you the best message ever. A message of Light. A message of joy. All that stuff but not a smile"
Doesn't checkout with me.


For me Father and Son are
:Pray: + :punish: +  :laugh: +  :rolllol: +  :HeartThrob: +   :gimmefive: +  :icon_jokercolor: +  :girlheart: +  :ty: +  :first:

That's the best I can explain the balance I'm looking for.

[Tapioca]

Why are Jesus pictures always depressing. Never a smile.

Perhaps there is something to the saying that beauty is in the eye of the beholder? I see a sacred reverence, a timeless yet personal spiritual Power, a firm and unshakeable compassion, a determined and steadfast mission, an unthinkable humility which by its very Nature transcends man's comprehension, a demonstration of a glorious ideal in the Master Exemplar, a completely Divine understanding of earthly life and the comforting this knowledge can bring to His little ones who seek to follow Him in the valley of misunderstanding, the promise of the certainty of a wondrous never-ending life that forever unfolds deeper and yet deeper loving revelations, a perfect reflection of a pulsating and loving Heart that beats continually throughout all time and shall do so without end.

Beautifully said. Thank you for posting those lovely pictures.

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This tiled painting is in the Maternity corridor and is 89 years old.

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/freespirit/chapel-pics-2013/tiled-painting-maternity.jpg

The Master Christ is depicted by the artist with a calm and serene countenance, cheeks claiming a smile - eyes declaring so.

This is not how I would paint Him, not quite... I am a little reluctant now the moment is passed to say this.

Oh Master,
How we know you not...

As I pondered over the scene of the Christ of God in human form, I was overcome with His Presence, not His spiritual Presence as such, but the one He wore when a human being of flesh.

I saw Him inside, internally, between my eyes as it were, there at a moment's thought - and one must go somewhere quiet.

My heart burst and burst again with joyous pain, my head filled with spiritual mead which clouded my thinking, and a Force was felt to place the Love of God in truth into others - Love must give itself away.

Imagine it, a land where the crippled and the blind occupied a dirty space at the wayside, pleading for a morsel to keep the life within the body and often dying, uncared for, unnoticed, to be cleared away later in the round up.

And the Master - not great in stature, not outwardly outstanding in any way from the world's point of view - Earth's values are not Spirit's values - the Master's Beauty was within, pure Divine Spirit, and it was felt by those who did not fight it with jealousy, hatred and anger.

Jesus the Christ, not dressed in fine raiment according to the world and yet wanting to exchange His better clothing with some ragged beaten beggar's attire. The Master - with sweat on His brow and a courage unthought-of by man, provided to many understanding of the Kingdom of God - as much as they could bear.

Yet in His Eyes, see in His Eyes - see, if you can, the Divine on Earth to all intents and purposes. The Divine in the Body of His own Christ, Jesus who walks in sandals - He, the Christ who comes from the Godhead, who was One with the Father God as much as a fleshly body can hold, and yet the Father was greater, the Christ reflecting and indeed expressing the Image of the Father in Jesus of Nazareth. Then when His Body was taken, the Spiritual Christ was still present as He always has been before becoming incarnate.

In the Eyes of that most unassuming Body may exist constellations, but as His hearers looked and listened in inspired awe, as He revived Spirit into the dead and lifeless body of a people betrayed by their priests, some saw in His Eyes a prophet, some saw in His Eyes the Messiah, and some saw in His Eyes God - and some saw in His Eyes all three. The Son of Man - the word humility does not begin to describe it.

That is what I see and it cannot be taken away once it is there.

Thank you so much for listening.

God knows the pain of His children and He takes every pang, as well as each and every humiliation, and He returns each one as priceless and unthinkable gifts which His children cannot as yet comprehend.

Be in harmony.

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Inside Jersey's hospital's chapel - the Chapel of the Good Shepherd.

Neither humour nor poetry nor hymns but it is very nice for some. Unfortunately my camera cannot show the exquisite detail that the artist created in these windows in 1891. I do not know who he is and neither does anyone else but I am researching it at present...

The Main Window
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/freespirit/chapel-pics-2013/main-window.jpg

These are what I think the artist was depicting but there is room for error on my part not being able to speak directly to the artist...

Top row - far left:
Christ healing the blind and crippled
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/freespirit/chapel-pics-2013/Christ-healing.jpg

Bottom row - first left:
Possibly the woman who touched Christ's garment
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/freespirit/chapel-pics-2013/Who-Touched-My-Garment.jpg

Top row- second left
"Mary then took a pound of very costly perfume of pure nard, and anointed the feet of Jesus and wiped His feet with her hair"
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/freespirit/chapel-pics-2013/Expensive_Ointment.jpg

Bottom row - second left:
Good Samaritan with robbers disappearing in background
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/freespirit/chapel-pics-2013/Good-Samaritan.jpg

Top row- centre:
Truth crucified
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/freespirit/chapel-pics-2013/Golgotha.jpg

Bottom row- centre:
Christ calms a storm
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/freespirit/chapel-pics-2013/Storm-Calmer.jpg

Top row - second from right:
Myrrh-bearers told by an angel Christ lives.
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/freespirit/chapel-pics-2013/Return-of-the-prodigal-son.jpg

Bottom row - second from right:
The Good Shepherd with five sheep
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/freespirit/chapel-pics-2013/Good_Shepherd.jpg

Top row - far right:
Christ appears to Mary Magdalene
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/freespirit/chapel-pics-2013/Magdalene-sees-Christ.jpg

Bottom row - far right:
Probably Solomon's famous wise judgement over two women's claim to one baby. 
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/freespirit/chapel-pics-2013/Solomon-pleading-woman.jpg

I do not know how long that web space will hold these pictures. I am sorry that the finer detail is not available. When the light is right, every hair in a beard can be seen. These impressions have seen me through my life's experiences over the last quarter of a century which is how long I have worked in this hospital. I thank the lady who paid for the window in 1891 in the Name of Christ.

There can never be enough done in the Name of Christ.

God Bless! Christ Bless!

I wanted to put this right. I had thought a particular window to possibly/probably be of Solomon; but I spoke with a man today who was taking photos of the stained-glass windows, and he pointed out that the bottom-right window is in fact the return of the prodigal son, penitent at the steps of the household of the joyous father with a somewhat perturbed brother looking on at the proceedings.

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/freespirit/chapel-pics-2013/Return-of-the-prodigal-son.jpg


This gentleman also thought that the top window, second from the right, was of 'three Marys'...

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/freespirit/chapel-pics-2013/He-is-Risen.jpg

I wasn't going to enter into possible disharmony in the chapel. In fact, this window is only the artist's harmonising projection, because it depicts an angel sitting down outside in the open, and the angel is pointing upwards, telling three women something (it is easy to assume the angel is saying "He is risen").

This depiction is not literally found in one Resurrection account alone, and it must be taken from various Resurrection accounts. It is assumed that the first-mentioned angel in Matthew must have been there, of course, in the knowledge of the human authors of the other accounts - but that the angel's presence, words and actions recorded in Matthew's Resurrection account simply did not get recorded by the other authors of Resurrection accounts - all three authors must have a good reason for leaving out Matthew's angel in one of the most important events in Christendom.

In Matthew, the angel first mentioned, is sitting down outside of the tomb...

Matthew 28
... Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to see the tomb. And ... an angel of the Lord descended from heaven and came and rolled back the stone and sat on it...

In Mark, Salome is with the two Marys. There is no mention of Matthew's angel. The women enter the tomb where they see someone dressed in white who gives a not dissimilar message to that of angelic account...

Mark 16
... Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices...they went to the tomb...And entering the tomb, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, dressed in a white robe...

In Luke, "they" ["the women" of Luke 23:55] do something similar to Mark's account, except that there are two beings (not one) when they go inside the tomb and they are "dazzling" as one might expect of an angelic being - and they get the message. Again, there is no mention of Matthew's angel...

Luke 24
...they went to the tomb, taking the spices...And they found the stone rolled away from the tomb, 3 but when they went in...two men stood by them in dazzling apparel...

In John, only Mary Magdalene is mentioned initially and the stone was already rolled away when she arrived at the tomb. There is no mention of Matthew's angel removing the stone and sitting on it outside the tomb. The first people in this account to enter the tomb were disciples. Mary had followed the disciples to the tomb, but after they left she stayed, but did not go into the tomb but "peers [CLV]" into the tomb to see two angelic beings...

John 20
Mary Magdalene came to the tomb early...and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb. So she ran and went to Simon Peter and the other disciple...Then Simon Peter came...and went into the tomb... Then the disciples went back to their homes...Now Mary stood outside at the tomb, lamenting. As, then, she lamented, she peers into the tomb, and is beholding two messengers in white seated...

PEACE.
Peace and joy in the knowledge of life immortal, the profound message of Christ, coming to light to man today, everlasting life, which man shall not escape even in his denial, a truth so bright that man cannot properly yet adjust his eyes in its direction, but a truth ordained by the Great God that man shall one day accept as personal fact and experience, even now while he walks in the valley.

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ΙΗΣ or IHS

This may or may not be of interest to someone...

We recently had to find a new home for two chairs in storage from the old Hospital Chapel. Someone wondered what the letters on the backrests were (similar to this)...

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/freespirit/chapel-pics-2013/chair-ihs.jpg

...and so I did a little study online.

I am sure errors can be detected by experts as I am not skilled enough to determine the veracity of the sources online - but it passes on the gist to the layman I think, which is the idea. It is as follows...

With Regard To The Letters On The Two Chairs From The Old General Hospital Chapel

The letters on the backrest are "IHS".

In a nutshell, these letters originated from the first three letters of a Greek word: "ΙΗΣΟΥΣ" which is "Jesus" in English ("ΙΗΣ" from "ΙΗΣΟΥΣ" [pronounced like "ee-soorss"]).

I.e. Iota-Eta-Sigma = ΙΗΣ of the word "ΙΗΣΟΥΣ" (Greek) = "Jesus" (English transliteration).

This is called a Chrystogram (monogram of Christ), and was found on doorposts of earliest followers of Christ, and also on gravestones.

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However, a Greek Chrystogram is not the immediate answer for the question of the Chapel chairs because the "IHS" in this case represents the first letters of three Latin words *(see #1 below for probable reason) although derived from the Greek Chrystogram.

The original language of New Testament times was Greek, but when Roman culture dominated Christianity in the earlier centuries, the records of the New Testament were translated into Latin which became the dominant translation; hence Catholic, Anglican and Methodism may be found to use these letters as designating initials of Latin words (through adoption and adaptation of the Greek Chrystogram).

The original Greek monograms continued to be used in Latin during the Middle Ages but the letters were used to signify the initials of Latin words.

1)   * "IHS" is often interpreted as meaning "Iesus Hominum Salvator" ("Jesus, Saviour of men" in Latin) - this is almost certainly the application used for the Chapel chairs.

2)   Alternatively, "IHS" is connected with "In Hoc Signo" (In hoc signo vinces = "In this sign you will conquer", the motto used by Constantine the Great.

Such interpretations are known as "backronyms.

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As already said, the JHS or IHS is the monogram of the name of "Jesus" derived from the first three letters of the Greek name of "Jesus" or "ΙΗΣΟΥΣ", i.e, Iota-Eta-Sigma.

From the beginning, in Christian inscriptions or names of Jesus Christ, were shortened by contraction, thus IC and XC or IHS and XPS for "Iesous Christos".

The Greek letter "sigma" has been translated as both "C" and "S".

The Greek letter "iota" has been translated as both "I" and "J".

In the Latin-speaking Christianity of medieval Western Europe, the most common Christogram is "IHS" or "IHC".

The Greek letter "eta" was transliterated as the letter "H" in the Latin-speaking West (Greek "eta" and Latin-alphabet "H" had the same visual appearance and shared a common historical origin), while the Greek letter "sigma" was either transliterated as the Latin letter "C" (due to the visually-similar form of the lunate sigma), or as Latin "S" (since these letters of the two alphabets wrote the same sound).

Because the Latin-alphabet letters I and J were not systematically distinguished until the 17th century, "JHS" and "JHC" are equivalent to "IHS" and "IHC".

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The Greek word "ΙΗΣΟΥΣ" (or "Iesous" or "Yesous") is of Hebrew origin from the word Jehoshua [יְהוֹשֻׁעַ (Yehoshu'a) meaning "God (YHVH) delivers (his people)"].

The Greek alphabet is not equipped to properly represent certain sounds. It is impossible to write the Hebrew "Yehoshua" in Greek.

No Greek word can begin with the sound "ye", so it was changed to "Ie".

Greek cannot have an H sound in the middle of a word. So that syllable had to be omitted.

Greek has no way to represent the "SH" sound, so it was changed to an S.

Finally, an S was added to the end to make it operate as a masculine Greek noun. (Most masculine Greek nouns end in os.)

Hence "Yehoshua" (Hebrew) became "Iesous" (Greek) which became "Jesus" (English).

Yah – sh – ua     =   Hebrew
Ie   -  s - ous      =   Greek
Je   -  s - us        =   English

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