The Trumpet will sound....?

[marie glen]

I was thinking of how Jesus is the fulfillment of each of ancient Israel's Holy Days.. He is our Passover (Lamb).. He is the Un-leavened bread - unleavened-free of sin..

He is the "FirstFruits" the first resurrected (and first-born of all creation) Interesting note: "firstfruits of old was the waving of a single sheaf of wheat in the air, and was reckoned as a giving of the harvest unto God, or God's care. And the single sheaf represented the entire harvest.

- He is our Sabbath, also (Hebrews 4)

But I was wondering how is he the Trumpet of "Trumpets", the 1st Autumn Feast? and heard this line from an old black and white sitcom today "the trumpet sounded and the walls of Jericho fell"... which struck me, and suggested to me, Jesus is that trumpet, and man's world /empire / kingdom (of course?) will fall..

After that of course is the 2nd Fall Feast (10 days later) Day of Atonement, and of course Jesus is the atonement for aLL -  then Tabernacles (5 days later) which Revelation (the Book of) says "and then God Himself will Tabernacle with man upon earth" a made new earth in a made new universe, all accomplished through what God accomplished in and through Jesus; eternal life IN Jesus, Jesus is our tabernacle, in that our communion is in Him and then, with Him our communion is with God. "Tabernacles" always :))

[Seth]

But I was wondering how is he the Trumpet of "Trumpets", the 1st Autumn Feast?

I'd have to familiarize myself with it more, but just instinctively I would say this. If the sound of a trumpet signifies the Lord's voice, and there are multiple trumpet blasts, that could very well signify the presence of the Bride in the Day of the Lord preaching the Gospel, one Voice through many voices.

Perhaps the wall of the signifies pride and that by God's word, all men will have their walls crumble down. It's interesting that Rahab was saved by obeying God. It seems that the crumbling of the walls parallels with the destruction of sin from which we may be saved through obedience, and that the cause is of the Lord, the trumpet. And at the sound of the trumpet, man will be humbled and God gives grace to the humble.

The day of the lord will be to some as a woman in the pain of labor... Others have escaped that destruction through obedience and need not be harmed of the destruction of the city. According to the Parable of the Wedding Feast, those who did not attend the wedding feast had their "cities burned." Those who attended with the wrong robes were bound over to destruction by fire. The judgment is of God, by his trumpet the city perishes, but by that voice, the Bride says, "come. all ye that are athirst." Then, every knee shall bow....

Just some ideas.

[WhiteWings]

When a priest went inside the Temple to burn incense on the Golden Altar (Rev 8:3). Simultaneously worshippers (Rev 8:3) fell on their face and prayed in silence for 30 minutes (Rev 8:1). The Hebrew word translated as silence actu-ally means 'be still before God'. This happened twice a day during morning and evening service. During the day a sho-far, not trumpet which is a wrong translation, was sounded. One blast at the opening of the Temple gate, three blasts during the morning service and another 3 blasts during the evening service; totaling seven blasts. Four during morning service, 3 during evening service, which are better known as the three Woes in Revelation. Each blasts during the evening service is better known as a "woe" in Revelation. All those things put together tells us The Seven Trumpets let us 'see' a daily service in the Temple. The four main blast patterns used in ancient Israel:
- Tekaih pattern: Single blast to assemble.
- Shevarim pattern: Three short blasts as a call to repentance and mourning.
- Ternuah pattern: Nine short blasts to call for war.
- Tekaih Gadolah: A long blast. The call of the Messiah.



ex 19:19 And when the voice of the rams horn/shofar sounded long, and waxed louder and louder, Moses spoke, and God answered him by a voice.

[Lazarus Short]

...or the Trumpet could be the trumpet announcing the Jubilee, of which I believe the return of Jesus the Christ to set up His Kingdom will be the Great Jubilee, in which all debts are canceled, and all who are in bondage go home free to their inheritance.   

[Seth]

When a priest went inside the Temple to burn incense on the Golden Altar (Rev 8:3). Simultaneously worshippers (Rev 8:3) fell on their face and prayed in silence for 30 minutes (Rev 8:1). The Hebrew word translated as silence actu-ally means 'be still before God'. This happened twice a day during morning and evening service. During the day a sho-far, not trumpet which is a wrong translation, was sounded. One blast at the opening of the Temple gate, three blasts during the morning service and another 3 blasts during the evening service; totaling seven blasts. Four during morning service, 3 during evening service, which are better known as the three Woes in Revelation. Each blasts during the evening service is better known as a "woe" in Revelation. All those things put together tells us The Seven Trumpets let us 'see' a daily service in the Temple. The four main blast patterns used in ancient Israel:
- Tekaih pattern: Single blast to assemble.
- Shevarim pattern: Three short blasts as a call to repentance and mourning.
- Ternuah pattern: Nine short blasts to call for war.
- Tekaih Gadolah: A long blast. The call of the Messiah.



ex 19:19 And when the voice of the rams horn/shofar sounded long, and waxed louder and louder, Moses spoke, and God answered him by a voice.

Seven trumpet blasts concerning worship in the temple.... that's interesting

Revelation 1
20 As for the mystery of the seven stars which you saw in My right hand, and the seven golden lampstands: the seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.

Revelation 5
6 And I saw between the throne (with the four living creatures) and the elders a Lamb standing, as if slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God, sent out into all the earth

Seven horns on one head of the lamb...the Bride...

[Seth]

Biblical numbers have always been really fascinating to me. I like to think about what they could all mean and how it all fits together

[anna274]

Biblical numbers have always been really fascinating to me. I like to think about what they could all mean and how it all fits together

I agree!  sometimes it's more of an obsession than a fascination for me ... I've been looking at some of my notes which I had carefully filed (put on a pile!!!) the past two days... and among my notes I found what I will share here as "Paul's message (IN Christ, a seven-fold blessing for all men) to the seven churches (ekklesia)"  and lest I go off topic too much, I'm offering only an outline and it seems to me
that it's okay because the seventh blessing has to do with the final trumpet call...

1.  Romans:  justification=new standing and acceptance before God

2.  1 & 11 Corinthians:  sanctification=power for holy living in the Spirit of God

3.  Galatians:  fellowship with God=practical walk in newness of life

4.  Ephesians:  exaltation to the heavenlies=foretaste of a heavenly life

5.  Philippians:  compensation=JOY for all self-denials, sufferings, renunciations for Christ's sake

6.  Colossians:  identification=hidden life in Christ

7.  1 & 11 Thessalonians:  glorification=manifestation awaits His final epiphany as the Head

All these spiritual blessings revealed/explained by physical realities (Jesus' earthly ministry) and His mediatorial life after His ascension

1.  Our Lord's crucifixion, death, burial, resurrection
2.  His breathing of the indwelling Spirit into His disciples (John 20:19-23)
3.  His forty days of walk in resurrection newness of life.
4.  His ascension and the gift of the Spirit in power
5.  His compensation for suffering in the joy set before Him
6.  His hidden life at the right hand of God
7.  His manifestation in His second coming 
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some Bible scholars maintain that the number seven (7) means: spiritual completeness

[WhiteWings]

...or the Trumpet could be the trumpet announcing the Jubilee, of which I believe the return of Jesus the Christ to set up His Kingdom will be the Great Jubilee, in which all debts are canceled, and all who are in bondage go home free to their inheritance.

IIRC there is also a significant difference between singular and plural.
Just like the difference between shofar/ramshorn and a manmade silver trumpet.

[WhiteWings]

But I was wondering how is he the Trumpet of "Trumpets", the 1st Autumn Feast? and heard this line from an old black and white sitcom today "the trumpet sounded and the walls of Jericho fell"... which struck me, and suggested to me, Jesus is that trumpet, and man's world /empire / kingdom (of course?) will fall..

A similar symbolism was expressed by another ceremony which took place at the close, not of the daily, but of the festive sacrifices. On every one of the seven days the priests formed in procession, and made the circuit of the altar, singing: 'O then, now work salvation, Jehovah! O Jehovah, give prosperity'! (Psa 118:25). But on the seventh, 'that great day of the feast,' they made the circuit of the altar seven times, remembering how the walls of Jericho had fallen in similar circumstances, and anticipating how, by the direct interposition of God, the walls of heathenism would fall before Jehovah, and the land lie open for His people to go in and possess it.

[WhiteWings]

Biblical numbers have always been really fascinating to me. I like to think about what they could all mean and how it all fits together

There are many sevens; another one that's less know is when we read about sprinkling blood the priest stood inside the Holies between the golden Altar and the  menorah and sprinkled blood toward the Holies of Holies seven times to re-establish the covenant. Afterwards he touched the horns of the altar of incense. I have no idea what that symbolized.

[sheila]

hi WW...I  perceive the 4 horns onthe altar ofincense as powers of the spirit.....the golden altar

of incense being as prayers in the house of God going up to God..andconsecrated/sacred

by the blood/life of Christ.  The faces of the creatures..also 4 lion,calf/ox eagle and man

symbolizing God's power ....Raphael/lion=God-heals  Calf/ox God's sstrength to fulfill

   Gabriel/man=Godis the interpreterand revealer ofHis word..togive understanding..

  the eagle as Michael=who is like God[no-one] and no-one can stand against His will..forwhen

   Michael[this power of God] stands up...all the people are delivered....

  thus God's power toanswer prayers of Hispeople..sanctify by the blood of the Lamb....

    to heal,give strength,reveal/understanding andcompletly deliver His people through Christ

   the power f God has always been withJesus Christ....when the woman touched the hem

of his garmet He perceived that power had gone forth from him........

......and His return in Glory with the power of His Father snd all the Heavenly Host.......

.....also.....whenweknow not how or what to pray for..as weshould..the powerof the Holy spirit

of God intercedes for us..as our prayers ascend untoHim...whether for

understanding/revelation..strength..healing..deliverance....the four living creatures..signify

  the dominion of the kingdom of Heaven.....just as man/eagle/lion/ox signify the 'kingship' of

the seen creation on earth..thus the having insubjection andrulership of the seen creation

is a mirror of Jesus Christ's throneaandheavenlyrulership of these 4powers in Heaven.

[marie glen]

...or the Trumpet could be the trumpet announcing the Jubilee, of which I believe the return of Jesus the Christ to set up His Kingdom will be the Great Jubilee, in which all debts are canceled, and all who are in bondage go home free to their inheritance.

A similar symbolism was expressed by another ceremony which took place at the close, not of the daily, but of the festive sacrifices. On every one of the seven days the priests formed in procession, and made the circuit of the altar, singing: 'O then, now work salvation, Jehovah! O Jehovah, give prosperity'! (Pssending a 118:25). But on the seventh, 'that great day of the feast,' they made the circuit of the altar seven times, remembering how the walls of Jericho had fallen in similar circumstances, and anticipating how, by the direct interposition of God, the walls of heathenism would fall before Jehovah, and the land lie open for His people to go in and possess it.

...a very good description (both of these) I'm inclined to think, of what's called the 'last' day... Jesus comes with the sound of a trumpet/shofar (heaven's shofar) when "He comes with angels and with fire" 2 thess 1:7(?)

"immediately after the tribulation of those days.. they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds.. He will send His angels out from Him, with the sound of a mighty Trumpet/shofar to gather His elect from the four corners" winds/directions "of the earth under heaven" Mt 24:38-41(?)

kind of like the saints, those dead and alive, rise to meet Him at His coming - the armies of earth having been "gathered" around Jerusalem/Israel; as the saints go up, the "fire" comes 'down'

"He comes with angels and with fire"

["and when the last trumpet/shofar begins to sound the mystery of God is finished"(rev10:7)

within the 7th trumpet (of the book of rev) within it, are the 7 bowls/vials of the wrath of God i.e the final results and consequences of man's doings? - "fire".

And Jesus' feet, I believe Zechariah wrote, would 'touch down' upon Mt of Olives, Zech 14:4 (from where He went up and the angels told the disciples "why are you looking up? this same Jesus will return in the same manner you have seen Him leave")

[Seth]

1 Cor 6
1Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? 2Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life

Blow the trumpet...

Revelation 22:17
The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" And let the one who hears say, "Come!" Let the one who is thirsty come; and let the one who wishes take the free gift of the water of life.

The words which cause every knee to bow...