"Is Jesus The Narrow Way?" A small step toward Christian Universalism

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rosered

AMEN !!!  Thank you Jesus !!
I always wondered why Jesus said make the Tree good and its fruit good or make the tree corrupt and its fruit corrupt , A TREE IS KNOWN !!   by its fruit !! the knowing or knowledge of this is powerful of itself !!
  I wondered many times HOW do you make the tree good Lord Jesus  ??,  because in our own feeble attempts and efforts   being so weak in the flesh fail  , 
but the LORD sees our troubles  and weaknesses and Like Paul said  , when I am weak , than  I am Strong !!    the LORDS SPIRIT   rises up in you giving renewd strength and  comfort to restore us back to life again !  truly Paul said it right, I DIE DAILY !   and so I see this as   THE LORD LIVES IN US !WOW!!  doing the works  that gives  the Father His due glory  in the heavens  and earth !!!      that we might learn righteousness  :HeartThrob:
Jesus is the reward  !!

rosered

Quote from: marie glen on October 28, 2013, 05:38:30 PM
Quote from: sheila on October 28, 2013, 05:24:39 PM
manyare destroyed..or gothey way of destruction before they are restored...sodomGomorrah

   Jerusalem..........few are choseninthis world not to go that way... the many that do gothat way

are declared righteous by Him giventhe freegift andraised up out of the ash heap.[spirit saved

onthe daay of the Lord]

       THAT IS WHAT RESTORATION IS ALL ABOUT.
       

Sheila,

that is SO true! man's natural (un born again) way is destruction.. and to/toward destruction.. anything minus the Spirit of God is minus! is destroyed, collapses! and ultimately is "ashes"!!

I feel I was destroyed before I was saved.. and surely(?) this destruction comes upon all sooner or later.. destruction of the lower self.. the lower self having proven itself 'wrong'.. likely many times over..

:dsunny:
Oh the LORD IS HERE !!  where two or 3 are gatherd in my name I AM IN THE MIDST  OF THEM
    bawling my eyes out  right now writting this !

   feel the healing  and so  very  thankful ! 
breaking though a hardness  thats been a burden to bear

   Thought of this Marie   with you Seth and Shelias  posts ! and Anna of couse 

 
Isa 61:1  The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; 


Isa 61:2  To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn


Isa 61:3   To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion,


to give unto them beauty for ashes,


the oil of joy for mourning,



the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness;



that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified. 

Isa 61:4  And they shall build the old wastes, they shall raise up the former desolations, and they shall repair the waste cities, the desolations of many generations.


wow   we see the King in His glory  this morning  , and the mourning has ended   TO DAY !!! IN THE LIGHT OF HIS PRESENCE !   we are restored  and filled with   His  joy and peace   again
Jesus is the reward  !!

rosered

helpful as well
all we can do is be  as Paul said  , he planted and  Apollos watered and its GOD WHO GIVES THE INCREASE  ,  the planting is done by spreading the GOOD SEED / NEWS OF THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHIRIST  in the hearts of mankind




This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honour me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 


Mat 15:9   But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. 


Mat 15:10   And he called the multitude, and said unto them, Hear, and understand : 


Mat 15:11   Not that which goeth into the mouth defiles a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defiles man. 


Mat 15:12   Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying?  


Mat 15:13   But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.
Jesus is the reward  !!

marie glen

Quote from: rosered on October 28, 2013, 05:40:12 PM
AMEN !!!  Thank you Jesus !!
Paul said it right, I DIE DAILY !    :HeartThrob:


"I die daily"!! I got so stressed out this morning! getting grand daughter off to school.. couldn't find this, couldn't find that.. got rather crabby about it all then felt so saddened to have made my little grand daughter (dreamer that she is) a little sad too.. I actually had to wonder just how much of an "overcomer!" I am! but, if Paul, so used by the Lord, had to die daily.. how much more little ole me..

"I die daily" exists along side of "the Spirit dwells in us" not either/or.. hopefully to progress and improve.. via His indwelling Spirit..

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marie glen

Quote from: rosered on October 28, 2013, 05:48:21 PM

wow   we see the King in His glory  this morning  , and the mourning has ended   TO DAY !!! IN THE LIGHT OF HIS PRESENCE !   we are restored  and filled with   His  joy and peace   again

what a great post / great verses! I needed "renewal"! :girlheart: :smile:
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sheila

See,I HAVE PLACED BEFORE YOU AN OPENED DOOR THAT NO_ONE CAN SHUT.

  I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BUT LITTLE STRENGTHmYET YOU HAVE KEPT MY WORD

AND NO DENIED MY NAME. I WILL MAKE THOSES WHO ARE OF THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN

  [Pharisee's sadducees corruptreligious leaders]

AND SAY THEY ARE JEWS THOUGH THEY RE NOT,BUT ARE LIARS-i will make them come

and fall down at your feetmand acknowledge that I have loved you


     you see,Rose...all spirits that come before Him in our life[religious teachers of doctrines of

menwithout the spirit of Christ..were robbersand theives]   He causes them to fall down

at our feet that we stepover them to follow Him and His spirit in us...it is part of our

over-coming and treading on /over serpents/scorpions and all the power of the enemy.

   we are to no longer make our back like the street to be trampled on of them...

   O'death where is thy sting? Itell you where itis...it is swallowed up of life/immortality

in Him.

   PRAISE GOD!!! For being so good to US!!!

rosered

amen sistas in Christ!!

  just read Psalms 89  at Annas  reminding     WOW!  and than you  say this Shelia !   its a double witness   Spirit of God in Christ  , that  union of the heavens and earth being healed  and reconciled  a refreshing   breath of Life ,
  as the Lord restores our souls back to Life again
  Thanks Marie , I hear you been crabby lately too  , needing the  great change that ONLY the promises of God can deliver  though Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour !!
I am in Awe!
Jesus is the reward  !!

marie glen

Quote from: sheila on October 28, 2013, 06:57:11 PM
See,I HAVE PLACED BEFORE YOU AN OPENED DOOR THAT NO_ONE CAN SHUT.

  I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BUT LITTLE STRENGTHmYET YOU HAVE KEPT MY WORD

AND NO DENIED MY NAME. I WILL MAKE THOSES WHO ARE OF THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN

  [Pharisee's sadducees corruptreligious leaders]

AND SAY THEY ARE JEWS THOUGH THEY RE NOT,BUT ARE LIARS-i will make them come

and fall down at your feetmand acknowledge that I have loved you


     you see,Rose...all spirits that come before Him in our life[religious teachers of doctrines of

menwithout the spirit of Christ..were robbersand theives]   He causes them to fall down

at our feet that we stepover them to follow Him and His spirit in us...it is part of our

over-coming and treading on /over serpents/scorpions and all the power of the enemy.

   we are to no longer make our back like the street to be trampled on of them...

   O'death where is thy sting? Itell you where itis...it is swallowed up of life/immortality

in Him.

   PRAISE GOD!!! For being so good to US!!!


Shiver me timbers! Good words those!!
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rosered

Quote from: sheila on October 28, 2013, 06:57:11 PM
See,I HAVE PLACED BEFORE YOU AN OPENED DOOR THAT NO_ONE CAN SHUT.

  I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BUT LITTLE STRENGTHmYET YOU HAVE KEPT MY WORD

AND NO DENIED MY NAME. I WILL MAKE THOSES WHO ARE OF THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN

  [Pharisee's sadducees corruptreligious leaders]

AND SAY THEY ARE JEWS THOUGH THEY RE NOT,BUT ARE LIARS-i will make them come

and fall down at your feetmand acknowledge that I have loved you


     you see,Rose...all spirits that come before Him in our life[religious teachers of doctrines of

menwithout the spirit of Christ..were robbersand theives]   He causes them to fall down

at our feet that we stepover them to follow Him and His spirit in us...it is part of our

over-coming and treading on /over serpents/scorpions and all the power of the enemy.

   we are to no longer make our back like the street to be trampled on of them...

   O'death where is thy sting? Itell you where itis...it is swallowed up of life/immortality

in Him.

   PRAISE GOD!!! For being so good to US!!!

  Amen Shelia  !

   The open Door prophecy of Isaiah22
and Jesus  though the Spirit to John says in Revelation And I will clothe him with thy robe, and strengthen him with thy girdle, and I will commit thy government into his hand: and he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and to the house of Judah. 


Isa 22:22   And the key of the house of David will I lay upon his shoulder; so he shall open, and none shall shut; and he shall shut, and none shall open. 
Isa 22:23   And I will fasten him as a nail in a sure place; and he shall be for a glorious throne to his father's house.     

Rev 3:7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;


Done a study on the feet years ago and there is alot of spiritual  meaning in that     Lexicon   of hearing what the Spirit is saying  , we are  carring the same witness  and the Gospel     the truth   as the feet of peace   that is   what vanquishes   , that power over  the enemies


Results Strong's G4228 - pous πούς

Part of Speech
masculine noun

 

a foot, both of men or beast
often in the orient, one put his foot on vanquished
of disciples listening to their teacher's instruction are said to be at his feet


Luk 1:79 To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.


Rom 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!


Rom 16:20 And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.


Eph 6:15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

seeing the correlation   in all the scriptures saying the same things !! :HeartThrob:
Jesus is the reward  !!


anna274

Quote from: sheila on October 29, 2013, 06:25:36 PM
Beautiful wittness to Him,Rose!!!!!!

Sheila and Rosered:

I've been blessed and greatly encouraged this day by you two sisters (in the flesh and in the spirit!!!)

re:  Beautiful witness to Him
re:  see the correlation in all the Scriptures saying the same things.

One of my devotionals Daily Open Windows - TASparks  for Oct 29

Romans 11:36
From Him and through Him and to Him are all things.  To Him be the glory forever.

..
"HE governs everything, in the realities of His Person and of His redemptive and perfecting work.  It is one Person and one Work, from the first book of the Bible to the last.  The change from the OT to the NT is simply and only the change from the indirect to the direct; from the symbolic to that which is symbolized; from the temporal representation to the spiritual reality. That is all.  It is not a change of purpose or object, not a change of basis or foundation; it represents no change of principle in any way.

...

For example, all God's dealings with the patriarchs were, in principle, as much upon the basis of His Son as are HIS DEALINGS WITH YOU AND ME.  (emphasis mine).    ...  everything is proceeding on that basis and will be consummated in Christ.   ..."

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It seems to me that it is really important that we immerse ourselves in the WHOLE Word of God (which I believe Sheila and Rose do) ...   Jesus Himself used the whole of the OT to explain to His disciples the meaning of everything He revealed in the New:

Luke 24:27
Then beginning with Moses and with all the prophets, He explained to them the things concerning Himself in ALL the Scriptures.

It seems to me that Paul was chosen to further "explain" Jesus Christ and Him crucified.

May we all continue to grow in grace and in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ--Savior of all men especially those who have been given to believe in this age. and then how beautiful will be our feet as we go forth to bring the Good News to all ...

rosered

QuoteIt seems to me that it is really important that we immerse ourselves in the WHOLE Word of God  ...   Jesus Himself used the whole of the OT to explain to His disciples the meaning of everything He revealed in the New:

Luke 24:27
Then beginning with Moses and with all the prophets, He explained to them the things concerning Himself in ALL the Scriptures.

It seems to me that Paul was chosen to further "explain" Jesus Christ and Him crucified.

May we all continue to grow in grace and in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ--Savior of all men especially those who have been given to believe in this age. and then how beautiful will be our feet as we go forth to bring the Good News to all ...

Blessings Sista Anna ,

I gree we can see the Testimony of Jesus  Christ IS THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY      The one and same whom filled the minds and  mouths of the prophets of old
  and the new !
  I was just thinking about  How  Jesus  returned from the dead / of his own mortal body
  to speak to John  in Revelation  in the Spirit  [same Testimony /witness and Spirit  and also to Paul .

  and speaks to us today  by the same  witness     the  Spirit of prophecy
to worship God  in Spirit and Truth !!
note its the feet / teaching, that they  fell to worship  this fellow servant , but having the same  Spirit /testimony of Jesus in them !!

I was told many years ago   by a fellow servant , the Old  is  God  testifying of His Son  and the new is the Son testifying of His Father   , To me I have considered   the Spirit  of Christ /being the Seed/ Word of God/ Truth  made flesh and the Spirit of God being the HOLY   Union  of   one SPIRIT  according to these verses 

Rev 19:10   And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

1Cr 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Spirit .

  1Cr 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
1Cr 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

Yes,  more of Him !! 
Jesus is the reward  !!

Seth

Quote from: rosered on October 29, 2013, 08:36:16 PM
It seems to me that it is really important that we immerse ourselves in the WHOLE Word of God  ...   Jesus Himself used the whole of the OT to explain to His disciples the meaning of everything He revealed in the New:

Yes, and not only do I see Jesus represented in the OT, I see Jesus representing his church both in the OT and in his earthly ministry (ie his physical cross unto the spiritual cross via Romans 6 through spiritual baptism). In as much as the temple and the lambs represent Christ, they also represent those who are IN CHRIST.

anna274

Quote from: Seth on November 03, 2013, 11:38:44 PM
Quote from: rosered on October 29, 2013, 08:36:16 PM
It seems to me that it is really important that we immerse ourselves in the WHOLE Word of God  ...   Jesus Himself used the whole of the OT to explain to His disciples the meaning of everything He revealed in the New:

Yes, and not only do I see Jesus represented in the OT, I see Jesus representing his church both in the OT and in his earthly ministry (ie his physical cross unto the spiritual cross via Romans 6 through spiritual baptism). In as much as the temple and the lambs represent Christ, they also represent those who are IN CHRIST.

Seth, Rosered, Sheila:  reading, and now printing your ongoing discussion in this thread as well as in the Hail..fire...blood thread,  I find myself in awe of just how much has been revealed through the OT/NT and look forward to gaining more light...life as I continue reading all the wonderful Scripture references you three have provided/will provide.  Some are oldies... but a few have been brought to my attention for the first time.  Rosered you mentioned in one of your posts that Jesus Christ is the Book of life... it seems to me that the Bible (OT/NT) is the Book of love...  we learn through all the visible creation God's power and divinity... but only through the written word, can we learn of God's love in Christ Jesus...so, yes, I agree... we need to be immersed in the WHOLE word of God.   May His peace, joy, mercy, grace, truth, life, light continue to flow through you.

rosered



  Blessings Anna ,
I praise God for all  His love and glory revealed though Jesus Christ our Lord !
  Fot this place and other likeminded believers !


Anna , you said this not me , but whole heartedly agree   


QuoteIt seems to me that it is really important that we immerse ourselves in the WHOLE Word of God  ...   Jesus Himself used the whole of the OT to explain to His disciples the meaning of everything He revealed in the New:


Thank God for His faithful SPIRIT and Truth   as we   eat His body and drink His blood that we might have Life in us , and Yes the Love is the  greatest part  proven over and over again .. !   God changes us       ,    and though Jesus Christ   many sons  born and revealed to HIS GLORY    and Honor and High praise  !! :HeartThrob:
Jesus is the reward  !!

anna274

Quote from: rosered on November 04, 2013, 06:16:38 PM


  Blessings Anna ,
I praise God for all  His love and glory revealed though Jesus Christ our Lord !
  Fot this place and other likeminded believers !


Anna , you said this not me , but whole heartedly agree   


QuoteIt seems to me that it is really important that we immerse ourselves in the WHOLE Word of God  ...   Jesus Himself used the whole of the OT to explain to His disciples the meaning of everything He revealed in the New:


Thank God for His faithful SPIRIT and Truth   as we   eat His body and drink His blood that we might have Life in us , and Yes the Love is the  greatest part  proven over and over again .. !   God changes us       ,    and though Jesus Christ   many sons  born and revealed to HIS GLORY    and Honor and High praise  !! :HeartThrob:

re: ... you said this not me...

lol LOL little old lady laughs out loud  aka made a joyful noise unto the Lord (Rosered, you and I think so much alike regarding our wonderful Lord and Savior!!!) 

I was putting together a possible post on "greater love" ... I checked my notes and found a quote by Charles Stanley "...the Bible describes love in terms of sacrificial action... while it's rarely necessary to die for the sake of another, genuine love usually involves some level of sacrifice.  As Christians, we are to show unconditional, selfless love to others--just as Jesus did for us.
  etc., etc., I wanted to post but  decided to check/read TMForum recent posts first  and SAW your beautiful reply to WW re:  Christ/sufferings ... which really supported very Scripturally my post on No greater love hath any man than to lay down his life for his friends...   so, of course, I needed to print your reply and file it carefully (on my current huge pile!!) and was so grateful to God for having you and me actually considering at the very same time Christ's sufferings/sacrificial death....  and so I have this huge Son shiney smile on my face!

After printing that reply, decided to post and as always, I checked/read the recent posts and the Son shiney smile just grew.... as I read that I actually quoted myself thinking that you had said....   immersed in the WHOLE book.....

Psalm 95
v 1  O COME, let us sing unto the Lord:  let us make a joyful noise to the rock of our salvation.
v  2  Let us come before His presence with thanksgiving, and make a joyful noise unto Him with psalms.




rosered

  Blessings Anna ,

in the name of our Father and  the Lord Jesus Christ!!
   Counting it all as joy  sister
  though I confess  that  there are battles  between  this ol flesh  and Gods Spirit  !
   His faithfulness   is  humbling    and always thankful He prevails !!   
I find my own self like Peter  at times  ''cutting off the ears ''
  but I love reading  what Peter shares with us   though his battles , there is always a blessing  when  hearing what the Spirit is  saying in His HOLY WORD !
  The Psalms of David blessed me personally and recieved a Word from the Lord in them during the times of deep  deprssion and transisition   from one state of mind to the other ! praise God again   

  from simon  as hearing to  now Peters   this ''little rock''  of building up   the  Living Word !!that the gates of hell / grave shall NOT prevail  as Jesus gave Himself for and has the Keys to His Kingdom  to share with us all  whom believe and obey Him !


1 Peter 2
King James Version (KJV)

Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings,

2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:

3 If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.

4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,


5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.


6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
I love it when the Spirit blows and clears our minds and comforts our hearts   that the Pure and Holy  regins   within!!! 

7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,


MOST PRECIOUS !!


8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.


We are thankful for His mercy on all of us


11 Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;


Yes I am  sure of this  and have this  problem  , but thankful for the answer = Jesus Christ to run to  , now knowing  His Love , mercy and grace !!  and now    also  desiring this for all   as Gods will that  none shall perish


12 Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation.

the Lord and His Light and knowledge of God  the Father has visited us !!!


13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;

14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.

15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:

16 As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.


17 Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.

18 Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward.

19 For this is thankworthy, if a man for conscience toward God endure grief, suffering wrongfully.

20 For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God.

I am still learning this part !!

21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:

22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth
:

23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:

24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.


wow ,,,I love it when the scriptures  speak to  us though His Holy Spirit and we are revived again !!!   not just survival but       
   revival .    A restoration to use, acceptance, activity, or vigor after a period of obscurity
GOD IS GOOD ALWAYS!! :HeartThrob:
Jesus is the reward  !!

Ross

1 John 4;7 " Beloved let us love one another; FOR LOVE IS OF GOD;
and every one that loves is born of love, and knows God."

We are told that we know we have passed from death to life because we love the brethren.1 John 3;14

The interesting implication seems to be that we are dead until Christ makes us alive in Spirit.
Would indeed explain why I felt something was missing but could not put a finger on what that was until being corrected from my personal efforts to His provision and the reality of the depths of His work. Hence as was mentioned the power of the testimony is what Christ has done for us, not what we attempt to do for Him.


Fellow brother in Christ

jbertonbounds

Quote from: Ross on November 13, 2013, 01:19:27 PM
1 John 4;7 " Beloved let us love one another; FOR LOVE IS OF GOD;
and every one that loves is born of love, and knows God."

We are told that we know we have passed from death to life because we love the brethren.1 John 3;14

The interesting implication seems to be that we are dead until Christ makes us alive in Spirit.
Would indeed explain why I felt something was missing but could not put a finger on what that was until being corrected from my personal efforts to His provision and the reality of the depths of His work. Hence as was mentioned the power of the testimony is what Christ has done for us, not what we attempt to do for Him.

Awesome, dude! :thumbsup:

Seth

Quote from: Ross on November 13, 2013, 01:19:27 PM
1 John 4;7 " Beloved let us love one another; FOR LOVE IS OF GOD;
and every one that loves is born of love, and knows God."

We are told that we know we have passed from death to life because we love the brethren.1 John 3;14

The interesting implication seems to be that we are dead until Christ makes us alive in Spirit.
Would indeed explain why I felt something was missing but could not put a finger on what that was until being corrected from my personal efforts to His provision and the reality of the depths of His work. Hence as was mentioned the power of the testimony is what Christ has done for us, not what we attempt to do for Him.

:iagree:

For it is God in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. It's all of God from faith to the salvation of our souls from sin so that no man may boast.


marie glen



Is Jesus the narrow way? 

                       absolutely! right? he is "the door.." ....is there a verse where He said this..?


.."the way, the truth and the light.."

this is an awesome thread..

God bless (have a good evening..morning or afternoon)
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JulieTang84

Is Jesus the narrow way?

Well yes and no. No, because Jesus cleared the way for all of Fathers children; a way that just did not exist before. However, even so.....

Mat 7:14
But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

Why should the gate be small and the road narrow? Very simple really, the gate is a metaphor for our faith. Father and Jesus are so pure and so full of light that many just cannot grasp something so pure. Their minds and hearts are restricted and their trust is as narrow and as bumpy as the road that leads to life. Yes, such as these see their life as such and live in glee for they 'know' that their god will severely punish anyone who do not struggle as they.

Yet, this is not what Jesus taught. Jesus said we must have Faith, Hope and Love. He told us that we have only to ask and it will be given, though even this has been long misunderstood. Asking is not saying: "Please Father, may I have....." but rather giving Thanks for everything Father that he has given each of so far (what hasn't He given us?) Living in and through Gratitude opens so many doors. Father knows what we need, before we even ask; therefore we must TRUST Him enough to not worry about anything (something Jesus told us)

Living like this is not difficult, for those living in Spirit and Love. For those that are not; impossible. All one needs to do is let go of their understanding, ideals and beliefs and TRUST.

1 Corinthians 13
New International Version (NIV)
13 If I speak in the tongues[a] of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.

4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

Love Julie  :HeartThrob: