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WhiteWings

Obad 1:21 And saviors shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the LORD's.


Saviour in plural. :dontknow: Thoughts?
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

sheila

imo Rev 14 the 144,000 standing  onMt Zion withthe Lamb........and this Rev 19;11-14

              they instruct in  truth..and conduct spiritual warfaare and deliverance forthe people

    from Babylon deception..........[armies of Heaven]

redhotmagma

When the 2 become ONE there will be no apparent distinction between bride and groom. Just as Christ is so are you in the world. He is the firstborn of many brethren.

WhiteWings

Sheila it seems to me they are just instructors not saviors.....?
Ok, I admit teaching the truth is a huge step to salvation but it has it's limits. For example only the life and death of Jesus made salvation possible/complete.

Red, I think that doesn't really matter because the groom/Jesus is no Saviour.
Yashua means Yah saves.

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1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

sheila

Jeremiah 14;9 why are you like a man,taken by surprise,like a warriorpowerless tosave.

....this 'saviours' speaks of DELIVERANCE.....who shall save mefromthis body undergoing

this death. and this WW.......when youseethesethings occur lift yourselves erect..

  your deliverance drawsnigh.  imo this speaks of Himcomingto take tothe place prepared

  the snatching away..Him appearing with allthe heavenly hosts anddeliverance.

...this isjust what I see..notsaying others do not have worthy perspectives,by any means.

itis all aboutdeliverance..the wholeministry....from death,from destructionfrom corruption

from deception from traps fromsnares,from trials, fromafflictions,from error,fromdarkness

fromseperation,fromwickedness.  the deliveranceandsanctifying and cleansing..is

Him presenting you to Himself without spot or blemish. He whois able to present you without

spot or blemish.  the Bridegroomlays downHislife for Hiswife to present her spotless

andwithoutblemish...kinda of a man gender thing...thisshowing honour untoaweakervessel

andself-sacrifice..seeing this..the woman is strengthen tolaydown herlife,too.

   

mplsfitter539

This is a commentary explanation of this verse by John Gill whoever he is.

Obadiah 1:21
And saviours shall come upon Mount Zion
Which according to some, is to be understood literally, either of Zerubbabel and Joshua, after the return of the Jews from the Babylonish captivity, who were the restorers of, their civil and church state; or rather of Judas Maccabeus and his brethren, who saved the people of the Jews from Antiochus and his generals, called "saviours", as the judges of old were, ( Nehemiah 9:27 ) ; but it is best to interpret these saviours of the apostles of Christ, and ministers of the word; and especially of the preachers of the Gospel in the latter days; called "saviours", because they publish salvation, preach the Gospel of it, show unto men the way of salvation; and so they, and the word preached by them, are the means and instruments of the salvation of men
Shema O Israel, Yahweh our Elohim is Yahweh echad!!!