Proper names of Yahweh

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WhiteWings

Quote from: jbertonbounds on September 08, 2013, 05:24:02 PM
I speak English.  If the commonly accepted spelling and pronunciation of the name of the son of the true living god is "Jesus," then that is what I call him, because that is his name in my language.  And if our father-god's name is Yahweh in English, then that's the language he has given me in which to speak his holy name.  Our father understands our language barriers.  He gave them to us.  He knows our hearts, out of which we call on his name, whether we call him "God," "Yahweh," or "Yankie-Doodle."  He does not hear our pronunciation of his name, he hears those calling out to him who call on whatever they understand his name to be in their language.  He hears our heart's intentions. :HeartThrob:

True.
But consider this...
All on this forum agree on salvation for all. But still they are studying to progress.
In my language hell is eternal. Until I start studying.
In my language hell is literal fire. Until I start studying.
In my language the Son's name is Jesus. Until......

All that knowledge changes nothing. But still is fun to figure out for some. Others find it a waste of time. That's likely why not everyone participates in every thread. Such is life.

:2c:
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

VineBranch

Quote from: WhiteWings on September 08, 2013, 10:30:08 PM
In my language the Son's name is Jesus. Until......

Don't leave me hanging here ... until what?

ded2daworld

I could be wrong, it happened twice so far this year but aren't we going to be gixen a new pure language when we are in the next age with God?

mplsfitter539

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Quote from: VineBranch on September 08, 2013, 10:32:42 PM
Quote from: WhiteWings on September 08, 2013, 10:30:08 PM
In my language the Son's name is Jesus. Until......

Don't leave me hanging here ... until what?
VB I would guess its until all people are willing to surrender themselves to Yahweh.
Shema O Israel, Yahweh our Elohim is Yahweh echad!!!

VineBranch

Quote from: mplsfitter539 on September 09, 2013, 03:50:25 AM
Quote from: VineBranch on September 08, 2013, 10:32:42 PM
Quote from: WhiteWings on September 08, 2013, 10:30:08 PM
In my language the Son's name is Jesus. Until......

Don't leave me hanging here ... until what?
VB I would guess its until all people are willing to surrender themselves to Yahweh.

The son's name is ... until all people are willing to surrender themselves to Yahweh?

I've never heard that before, it's intriguing. 

WhiteWings

Quote from: VineBranch on September 08, 2013, 10:32:42 PM
Quote from: WhiteWings on September 08, 2013, 10:30:08 PM
In my language the Son's name is Jesus. Until......

Don't leave me hanging here ... until what?
Until I start studying.

The whole point of my post was that we all know things for certain because it's all so obvious and everyone says so.
Until.....we start studying. Then quite often the obvious no longer is that obvious.
For many on this forum ET was obvious (for decades). Clearly mentioned in the Bible. Zillions of pastors teaching it. And now all hold a very different opinion.

Yeah, many obvious things like are true but we don't know until:
1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

jbertonbounds

Quote from: mplsfitter539 on September 08, 2013, 06:06:54 PM
Quote from: jbertonbounds on September 08, 2013, 05:24:02 PM
I have dyslexia :sigh:, so I cannot read all the replies to any post, especially the long ones, so I do not know what all has been said in this thread.  However, I would like to address the OP with this statement, which is, of course, IMO:

I speak English.  If the commonly accepted spelling and pronunciation of the name of the son of the true living god is "Jesus," then that is what I call him, because that is his name in my language.  And if our father-god's name is Yahweh in English, then that's the language he has given me in which to speak his holy name.  Our father understands our language barriers.  He gave them to us.  He knows our hearts, out of which we call on his name, whether we call him "God," "Yahweh," or "Yankie-Doodle."  He does not hear our pronunciation of his name, he hears those calling out to him who call on whatever they understand his name to be in their language.  He hears our heart's intentions. :HeartThrob:

Thank you for listening, brothers and sisters.  I just needed to say that.

I am thankful, however, for those who share informative information (like in this thread and many others) with other people, in exchange for the knowledge, wisdom and understanding of others.  That is to say, thanks to all of you who share your ideas and knowledge, which helps us corporately develop a better understanding of just who and what our father, Yahweh, is. :dsunny:
jberton
I don't think anyone on this tread has said anything that apposes what you have just said. My only point was that "God" is only a generic title it is not His name. When you say God I know who you are referring to but Islam calls Allah god also so they may presume we are worshiping the same God or god. If you are speaking with with one who calls on the name of God they may need to be more specific in some instances. Its probably safe to assume at Tentmaker we can call Him by His title but outside of here you may want to be more specific.  :2c:

Absolutely,  :iagree:  "God" is not his name, only a title.  I had never thought of that until I saw it recently on this forum.  Yet for some time I have not felt right about calling him something other that by his name Yahweh.  I have seen people get into a debate (not sure where I saw it) over how to spell Yahweh, and over whether Jesus name should be Yeshua and so forth.  I have come to love the names Jesus and Yahweh.  I'm sticking with them for now. :thumbsup:

jbertonbounds

Quote from: WhiteWings on September 09, 2013, 08:58:57 AM
Quote from: VineBranch on September 08, 2013, 10:32:42 PM
Quote from: WhiteWings on September 08, 2013, 10:30:08 PM
In my language the Son's name is Jesus. Until......

Don't leave me hanging here ... until what?
Until I start studying.

The whole point of my post was that we all know things for certain because it's all so obvious and everyone says so.
Until.....we start studying. Then quite often the obvious no longer is that obvious.
For many on this forum ET was obvious (for decades). Clearly mentioned in the Bible. Zillions of pastors teaching it. And now all hold a very different opinion.

Yeah, many obvious things like are true but we don't know until:
1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

This reminds me of something I quoted on FB a few days ago - I see it as a profound truth:

Me: "I have always been a seeker of the truth. This means that I have embraced the need to be adjustable. I know people who are proud that they have held the exact same doctrinal understandings for 20, 30, 40, 50 years. This is not a badge of honor to me. I continue to learn and grow. My beliefs have continued to change drastically over the years." - Clyde L. Pilkingtin, Jr

A friend who thinks I'm a heretic replied: "The truth does not change."

Me: "I agree. Our understanding of the truth changes as we submit more and more to Yahweh and the Spirit teaches us. If we ever stop searching for and learning truth, we stop growing in our relationship with Him. If we ever think we have "arrived" at knowing all truth, then we have become the "wise and understanding" of Luke 10:21."

No further reply.

jbertonbounds

Lovin it!
:banana: :winkgrin: :laughing7:

ded2daworld

#34
God is unchanging. God is truth. Truth is unchanging. What changes is our perception of the truth and therefore our perception of God. Or perhaps Our changing perception of God gives us a changed perspective of the truth, :Chinscratch:

WhiteWings

Quote from: jbertonbounds on September 09, 2013, 08:48:44 PM
Lovin it!
:banana: :winkgrin: :laughing7:

Keep dancin' jb   :Egyptdance2:
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

mplsfitter539

Quote from: ded2daworld on September 09, 2013, 09:09:02 PM
God is unchanging. God is truth. Truth is unchanging. What changes is our perception of the truth and therefore our perception of God. Our perhaps Our changing perception of God gives us a changed perspective of the truth, :Chinscratch:
Thank you for repeating this statement it really is what jberton just said but that's cool it was worth repeating  :declare:
Shema O Israel, Yahweh our Elohim is Yahweh echad!!!

jbertonbounds

Quote from: ded2daworld on September 09, 2013, 09:09:02 PM
God is unchanging. God is truth. Truth is unchanging. What changes is our perception of the truth and therefore our perception of God. Our perhaps Our changing perception of God gives us a changed perspective of the truth, :Chinscratch:
:thumbsup: