It's all about LOVE!!!

[JulieTang84]

Yes, you read that right....It is all about LOVE!!!  :HeartThrob:

I perhaps am being very egotistical because my original "post" was not well perceived. Likely because it was poorly packaged!!  :sigh:

Father during the last year or so has opened my heart and soul to so many things I had never given thought to. I had spent what seemed a lifetime comparing myself to others: in looks, wealth, friends, knowledge and happiness.

Was I happy? .... I guess so, but I "would" have been happier if it was "I" with the new car, fancy phone, stylish clothes, etc. If I just worked a little harder, tried a little harder....if....if....if.
My whole world was seemingly based on what I lacked, and I lacked a lot.  :sigh:

Yet, I thought I had good intentions. I helped friends and family as much as I good. I worried greatly over things I had no hope of changing. I hedged my bets in everything, I didn't trust the system. I was pretty much the guy with 3 talents of silver.

Then Father opened my heart and I could at last see. I live in a world of my own creation, a world that I was "told" not to LOVE!!!!!  :dontknow:

Well that's what the words said! To Love Father and not the World. Ah.....(light comes on) It was not the Physical world but the Spirit of the World that I was to walk from.  :gimmefive:

LOVE  :HeartThrob:   The Spirit of LOVE is everywhere. Each of us have Love flowing in us and through us. I can create a truly BEAUTIFUL world through and for Love. What is it that I lack? What is it that anyone can do I say that can cause me to stumble? NOTHING!!!!!!!!!! :banana:

Awesome!!!!  They can't touch me...........Oh then who is sabotaging it, who is it dragging my creation down??

Satan? Of course. Satan is the blame. My world would be perfect if not for Satan, might as well blame Adam and of course Father for planning it like this. It's not my fault really.

B.S.  (Blatantly Silly) :laugh:

Satan cannot touch me unless I choose to focus more on him and the spirit of his world. The sole responsibility for the Love, Joy and Peace in the world I have created is of MY OWN making. Of course there is much I do not understand, but NOTHING I cannot LOVE  :HeartThrob:  with ALL that I am. I always believe that knowledge is POWER, but it is NOTHING without LOVE. How is it a baby can melt my heart? Because they are the pure essence of Love, as is any new born creature or plant.

What is it that I do NOT have for a perfect world?  NOTHING!! Psalm 23

If all of us lived IN Love we could change the VERY Spirit of the World. LOVE  :HeartThrob:  says anything is possible. Love will do it, if "I, we, us" Trust in the SPIRIT of LOVE and LIVE IT 24/7!!!! Love is more than a feeling, it is Pure Creative Energy. It seeks only peace and joy; love has no need for a sword evil cannot stand the "light" of true love. We can heal the planet and all who reside on it, but first we must heal ourselves by releasing all the love that we are to all of Father's creation, devoid of judgments, constraints and limitations. Love is not held back from us, it is we who hold back Love.

Jesus said be Perfect as Father is perfect. We are all capable of perfect Love.  :HeartThrob:

Please accept this with the joyous Love  :HeartThrob: in which it was written.

Your Sister, 
With Love, Julie  :girlheart:

[VineBranch]

Yes, you read that right....It is all about LOVE!!!  :HeartThrob:

I perhaps am being very egotistical because my original "post" was not well perceived. Likely because it was poorly packaged!!  :sigh:

Father during the last year or so has opened my heart and soul to so many things I had never given thought to. I had spent what seemed a lifetime comparing myself to others: in looks, wealth, friends, knowledge and happiness.

Was I happy? .... I guess so, but I "would" have been happier if it was "I" with the new car, fancy phone, stylish clothes, etc. If I just worked a little harder, tried a little harder....if....if....if.
My whole world was seemingly based on what I lacked, and I lacked a lot.  :sigh:

Yet, I thought I had good intentions. I helped friends and family as much as I good. I worried greatly over things I had no hope of changing. I hedged my bets in everything, I didn't trust the system. I was pretty much the guy with 3 talents of silver.

Then Father opened my heart and I could at last see. I live in a world of my own creation, a world that I was "told" not to LOVE!!!!!  :dontknow:

Well that's what the words said! To Love Father and not the World. Ah.....(light comes on) It was not the Physical world but the Spirit of the World that I was to walk from.  :gimmefive:

LOVE  :HeartThrob:   The Spirit of LOVE is everywhere. Each of us have Love flowing in us and through us. I can create a truly BEAUTIFUL world through and for Love. What is it that I lack? What is it that anyone can do I say that can cause me to stumble? NOTHING!!!!!!!!!! :banana:

Awesome!!!!  They can't touch me...........Oh then who is sabotaging it, who is it dragging my creation down??

Satan? Of course. Satan is the blame. My world would be perfect if not for Satan, might as well blame Adam and of course Father for planning it like this. It's not my fault really.

B.S.  (Blatantly Silly) :laugh:

Satan cannot touch me unless I choose to focus more on him and the spirit of his world. The sole responsibility for the Love, Joy and Peace in the world I have created is of MY OWN making. Of course there is much I do not understand, but NOTHING I cannot LOVE  :HeartThrob:  with ALL that I am. I always believe that knowledge is POWER, but it is NOTHING without LOVE. How is it a baby can melt my heart? Because they are the pure essence of Love, as is any new born creature or plant.

What is it that I do NOT have for a perfect world?  NOTHING!! Psalm 23

If all of us lived IN Love we could change the VERY Spirit of the World. LOVE  :HeartThrob:  says anything is possible. Love will do it, if "I, we, us" Trust in the SPIRIT of LOVE and LIVE IT 24/7!!!! Love is more than a feeling, it is Pure Creative Energy. It seeks only peace and joy; love has no need for a sword evil cannot stand the "light" of true love. We can heal the planet and all who reside on it, but first we must heal ourselves by releasing all the love that we are to all of Father's creation, devoid of judgments, constraints and limitations. Love is not held back from us, it is we who hold back Love.

Jesus said be Perfect as Father is perfect. We are all capable of perfect Love.  :HeartThrob:

Please accept this with the joyous Love  :HeartThrob: in which it was written.

Your Sister, 
With Love, Julie  :girlheart:

Okay?  This is the same post you put up a few days ago.  You changed the word 'Me' for 'Love' and changed a few things.

May I respectfully ask what it is you are doing?

I've taken the liberty of including you previous post as a reference.

Yes, you read that right....It is all about ME!!! (you who is reading this)  :HeartThrob:


Father during the last year or so has opened my heart and soul to so many things I had never given thought to. I had spent what seemed a lifetime comparing myself to others: in looks, wealth, friends, knowledge and happiness.


Was I happy? .... I guess so, but I "would" have been happier if it was "I" with the new car, fancy phone, stylish clothes, etc. If I just worked a little harder, tried a little harder....if....if....if.


My whole world was seemingly based on what I lacked, and I lacked a lot.  :sigh:


Yet, I thought I had good intentions. I helped friends and family as much as I good. I worried greatly over things I had no hope of changing. I hedged my bets in everything, I didn't trust the system. I was pretty much the guy with 3 talents of silver.


The Father opened my heart and I could at last see. I live in a world of my own creation, a world that I was "told" not to LOVE!!!!!  :dontknow:


Well that's what the words said! To Love Father and not the World. Ah.....(light comes on) It was not the Physical world but the Spirit of the World that I was to walk from.  :gimmefive:


LOVE  :HeartThrob:   The Spirit of LOVE is everywhere. Each of us have Love flowing in us and through us. I can create a truly BEAUTIFUL world through and for Love. What is it that I lack? What is it that anyone can do I say that can cause me to stumble? NOTHING!!!!!!!!!! :banana:


Awesome!!!!  They can't touch me...........Oh then who is sabotaging it, who is it dragging it down??


Satan? Of course. Satan is the blame. My world would be perfect if not for Satan, might as well blame Adam and of course Father for planning it like this. It's not my fault really.


B.S.  (Blatantly Silly) :laugh:


Satan cannot touch me unless I choose to focus more on him and the spirit of his world. The sole responsibility for the Love, Joy and Peace in the world I have created is of MY OWN making. Of course there is much I do not understand, but NOTHING I cannot LOVE  :HeartThrob:  with ALL that I am. I always believe that knowledge is POWER, but it is NOTHING without LOVE. How is it a baby can melt my heart? Because they are the pure essence of Love, as is any new born creature or plant.


What is it that I do NOT have for a perfect world?  NOTHING!! Psalm 23


If all of us lived IN Love we could change the VERY Spirit of the World. LOVE  :HeartThrob:  says anything is possible. Love will do it, if "I" Trust in the SPIRIT of LOVE and LIVE IT!!!!!


Yes, it is all about ME!!! (you who are reading this)


Please accept this with the joyous Love in which it was written.


Your Sister, 
With Love, Julie  :girlheart:

[JulieTang84]

Very fine question VineBranch  :HeartThrob:

What is it that I am doing? Okay, I am going to lay it all on the table. Jesus told us to LOVE, not to study, dissect or discern. We are told not to lean on our understanding.

Mat 22:37-39
"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'  This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'

So here we have the ground rules. Love Father with all that we are and everyone else the same. (Note: if we cannot unconditionally love ourselves how can we LOVE Father, for what ever love we hold from ourselves, we hold from Father and all others)

Jesus goes on to say:

Jhn 4:24   God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth."

Now we have just three requirements. Love, Spirit and Truth. Most have no issue with this, but most never question WHY????

Why are we told that we must LOVE UNCONDITIONALLY Father and all our brothers and sisters? Why?

Is it just a paper stamp type ordinance? Is it a hollow rule? Father forbid!!! No!!!!

Love is a game changer. Love changes everything, the old requirements have passed away. We know this because of Jesus's following words:

Mar 10:14,5   When Jesus saw this, he was indignant. He said to them, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. Truly I tell you, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it."

Become as little children so that we can enter the kingdom of God. What does that mean?

Well it means way more than it would seem. To be as a young child, one must be innocent, trusting and filled with wonder of an ever expanding world. A stark contrast from the world of many adults who believe the have seen and experienced about everything that there is. Their wonder has ceased, yet a child's is utterly enjoyed. So it would seem that our goal is to break down the walls, loosen the chains that bind us and begin to live again in amazement of all that Father has created for us. This world is our "playground" if seen through the eyes of Love and of a child.

Yet we are told more:

Jhn 4:24   God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth."

Father is spirit and we know that Father is the Spirit of Love. We must also worship him in Spirit and in truth. How are we mere physical beings supposed to worship in Spirit and what is truth?

Why are we told to worship this way? Why is Jesus speaking of Spirit and not the physical? While we are on this subject. What the heck is worship? What possible can we give Father that He doesn't already have???

So we are told to let go of any and all understanding (pro 3:5) We are to Love and Trust Father with all the LOVE we are and we are to worship in Spirit and truth.

The former things HAVE passed away, as much as we run here and there searching for every last tidbit of "perceived" truth, is EQUALLY as much as we are NOT trusting that Father will provide what we need when we need it. "for the Holy Spirit will teach you at that time what you should say." Luk 12:12

The importance of this must NEVER be over looked!. "The Spirit will teach us" Spirit!!! not diligent study or debate over meanings of words. In order to be taught by the Spirit we must first have ears that can hear. This was VERY important to Jesus and he repeated the following several times.

Mat 11:15       He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Jhn 14:26   But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.

Why is it we are to unlearn and become as a little child? So we can hear!! The voice of the Spirit is not loud or over bearing. It does not demand to be heard in the mind but rather our spirit. This requires a quiet place and a letting go of the physical. The small voice of peace, love and truth can be heard. IMO it is life changing.

Psa 46:10   He says, "Be still, and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth."

So what is "truth?"  Love. Love is the answer to everything. There is absolutely NOTHING that is not benefitted by and through LOVE.

So this is how we worship. It is not something done every Sunday morning at a church. It is not everytime we open Fathers Holy Word. Rather it is with EVERY breath we take. It is with EVERY beat of our heart.

Love CANNOT be possesed. IT MUST be released, it must flow through us like electricity through a wire. Our every thought, deed and word must be laced with LOVE for this is how we can truly worship Father, by living in absolute appreciation and gratitude for the peace and the joy that his Spirit has granted.

We have come circle. The source of all Love and Light of truth is now in us and through us. We are now free to enjoy a beatiful world devoid of fear, worry and despair. This is our destiny, this is why we were created. To enjoy, to live in LOVE, for LOVE and because of LOVE.

We need NOTHING more than TRUST

Mat 6:26-34   Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they?  Can any one of you by worrying add a single hour to your life? "And why do you worry about clothes? See how the flowers of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you—you of little faith? So do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear? For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them.  But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.

May I respectfully as what you are doing?

VineBranch, I truly hope that through Scripture and the discernment of Spirit that I have answered your question.

Are we not to Love Father First, all others as much, living as little children seeing every little plant in awe and amazement in this gigantic forest called life. We are to TRUST implicitly, listening always for small quiet voice of spirit; building everyone and everything with the LOVE of all Truth.

It is with Love that I write all of this.

Thank you Father,
Love Julie :girlheart: 

[Tom]

Yes, you read that right....It is all about LOVE!!!  :HeartThrob:

I perhaps am being very egotistical because my original "post" was not well perceived. Likely because it was poorly packaged!!  :sigh:

Father during the last year or so has opened my heart and soul to so many things I had never given thought to. I had spent what seemed a lifetime comparing myself to others: in looks, wealth, friends, knowledge and happiness.

Was I happy? .... I guess so, but I "would" have been happier if it was "I" with the new car, fancy phone, stylish clothes, etc. If I just worked a little harder, tried a little harder....if....if....if.
My whole world was seemingly based on what I lacked, and I lacked a lot.  :sigh:

Yet, I thought I had good intentions. I helped friends and family as much as I good. I worried greatly over things I had no hope of changing. I hedged my bets in everything, I didn't trust the system. I was pretty much the guy with 3 talents of silver.

Then Father opened my heart and I could at last see. I live in a world of my own creation, a world that I was "told" not to LOVE!!!!!  :dontknow:

Well that's what the words said! To Love Father and not the World. Ah.....(light comes on) It was not the Physical world but the Spirit of the World that I was to walk from.  :gimmefive:

LOVE  :HeartThrob:   The Spirit of LOVE is everywhere. Each of us have Love flowing in us and through us. I can create a truly BEAUTIFUL world through and for Love. What is it that I lack? What is it that anyone can do I say that can cause me to stumble? NOTHING!!!!!!!!!! :banana:

Awesome!!!!  They can't touch me...........Oh then who is sabotaging it, who is it dragging my creation down??

Satan? Of course. Satan is the blame. My world would be perfect if not for Satan, might as well blame Adam and of course Father for planning it like this. It's not my fault really.

B.S.  (Blatantly Silly) :laugh:

Satan cannot touch me unless I choose to focus more on him and the spirit of his world. The sole responsibility for the Love, Joy and Peace in the world I have created is of MY OWN making. Of course there is much I do not understand, but NOTHING I cannot LOVE  :HeartThrob:  with ALL that I am. I always believe that knowledge is POWER, but it is NOTHING without LOVE. How is it a baby can melt my heart? Because they are the pure essence of Love, as is any new born creature or plant.

What is it that I do NOT have for a perfect world?  NOTHING!! Psalm 23

If all of us lived IN Love we could change the VERY Spirit of the World. LOVE  :HeartThrob:  says anything is possible. Love will do it, if "I, we, us" Trust in the SPIRIT of LOVE and LIVE IT 24/7!!!! Love is more than a feeling, it is Pure Creative Energy. It seeks only peace and joy; love has no need for a sword evil cannot stand the "light" of true love. We can heal the planet and all who reside on it, but first we must heal ourselves by releasing all the love that we are to all of Father's creation, devoid of judgments, constraints and limitations. Love is not held back from us, it is we who hold back Love.

Jesus said be Perfect as Father is perfect. We are all capable of perfect Love.  :HeartThrob:

Please accept this with the joyous Love  :HeartThrob: in which it was written.

Your Sister, 
With Love, Julie  :girlheart:

I like your definition of "B.S." It makes more sense than the common one.

"God is love" (1 John 4:8,16)

[jabcat]

I'd like to offer some other things to think (and pray) about.

I will agree that love is vital, must be present, or else we're "making noise".  You keep loving Julie.  As you say, "don't forget love".   Amen!    Among other things, it's a good influence.  Maybe some of it's rubbing off on me.   :laughing7:     

Some more thoughts.   Jesus gave the new commandment to love.  But that's not all of His commandments.  He made many.  I believe among other things, His new commandment was showing the difference between JUST Law/commandments (eye for eye, living by the letter of commands/Law), vs. doing what Paul said to us, the church, later -  to still speak the truth - but in love.   He also said to "grow in grace  and  knowledge" [Godly, Spirit-given/interpreted/applied].

Despite it having been said before that "love is all there is", I believe you've actually done a lot of what Jesus and Paul said, Julie - including in the posts above.  You've spoken much truth, backed up by the knowledge of scripture, but done it in love.  So really, rather than just love, you've spoken the truth   in love, sharing Godly knowledge!   :thumbsup:

Regarding "letting go of your understanding" - I  personally believe that has more to do with our own carnal, "self-made" thoughts and doctrines/traditions of man/men.  I don't believe that means let go of all "Godly understanding, Godly wisdom" - that which has come from above - whether that's a spoken Word of God, or an internally revealed Word of God from the Holy Spirit interpreting the scriptures within our yielded and open vessel.  The only way I could see that applying there is, is that we're to give everything over to Him, surrender it all to His control, to bring into us what HE wants us to have, what we need for ourselves and to help others.

Jesus also said "you err because you do not know the scriptures".  Elsewhere, Paul said "all scripture is inspired and useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be  thorougly equipped for every good work".



So I believe love is crucial, to it all.  But I don't believe that means throw everything else out the window.  Of the gifts, the greatest is love.  But I believe it's all still important, in a balanced, surrendered, Spirit-led life.  Now - if God will grant me to live it.  Blessings.

[anna274]

I'd like to offer some other things to think (and pray) about.

I will agree that love is vital, must be present, or else we're "making noise".  However;

to say "love is all there is" (maybe not stated here, but I've seen it used in other places) I believe is a mis-statement.  Jesus gave the new commandment to love.  But that's not all of His commandments.  He made many.  I believe among other things, His new commandment was showing the difference between JUST Law/commandments (eye for eye, living by the letter of commands/Law), vs. doing what Paul said to us, the church, later -  to still speak the truth - but in love.   He also said to "grow in grace  and  knowledge" [Godly, Spirit-given/interpreted/applied].

Despite it having been said before that "love is all there is", I believe you've actually done a lot of what Jesus and Paul said, Julie - including in the posts above.  You've spoken much truth, backed up by the knowledge of scripture, but done it in love.  So really, rather than just love, you've spoken the truth   in love, sharing Godly knowledge!   :thumbsup:

Regarding "letting go of your understanding" - I  personally believe that has more to do with our own carnal, "self-made" thoughts and doctrines/traditions of man/men.  I don't believe that means let go of all "Godly understanding, Godly wisdom" - that which has come from above - whether that's a spoken Word of God, or an internally revealed Word of God from the Holy Spirit interpreting the scriptures within our yielded and open vessel.  The only way I could see that applying there is, is that we're to give everything over to Him, surrender it all to His control, to bring into us what HE wants us to have, what we need for ourselves and to help others.

Jesus also said "you err because you do not know the scriptures".  Elsewhere, Paul said "all scripture is inspired and useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be  thorougly equipped for every good work".



So I believe love is crucial, to it all.  But I don't believe that means throw everything else out the window.  Of the gifts, the greatest is love.  But I believe it's all still important, in a balanced, surrendered, Spirit-led life.  Now - if God will grant me to live it.  Blessings.

I "love" the topic title:  It's all about LOVE

I love Vinebranch for asking Julie about the change of ME to LOVE in the title.
I love Julie for taking the time to give an indepth reply especially using Scriptures
I love jabcat for his offerings of some "other things" to think and pray about and for commending Julie on speaking much truth backed up by the knowledge of Scripture and doing so in love.

some more other things:

1 John 3:23 (AMP)
And this is His command, His injunction:  THAT WE SHOULD BELIEVE IN (put our faith and trust in and adhere to and rely on) THE NAME OF HIS SON JESUS CHRIST (the Messiah), and that we should love one another, just as He has commanded us.

oops, running out of time... but will be back later this evening with more "other things".

[jabcat]

some more other things:

1 John 3:23 (AMP)
And this is His command, His injunction:  THAT WE SHOULD BELIEVE IN (put our faith and trust in and adhere to and rely on) THE NAME OF HIS SON JESUS CHRIST (the Messiah), and that we should love one another, just as He has commanded us.

That scripture (and explanations in parantheses) seems to summarize and pull together a lot of truth that's elsewhere in various places in the scriptures.  Amen.

[Tom]

Yes, you read that right....It is all about LOVE!!!  :HeartThrob:

I perhaps am being very egotistical because my original "post" was not well perceived. Likely because it was poorly packaged!!  :sigh:

Father during the last year or so has opened my heart and soul to so many things I had never given thought to. I had spent what seemed a lifetime comparing myself to others: in looks, wealth, friends, knowledge and happiness.

Was I happy? .... I guess so, but I "would" have been happier if it was "I" with the new car, fancy phone, stylish clothes, etc. If I just worked a little harder, tried a little harder....if....if....if.
My whole world was seemingly based on what I lacked, and I lacked a lot.  :sigh:

Yet, I thought I had good intentions. I helped friends and family as much as I good. I worried greatly over things I had no hope of changing. I hedged my bets in everything, I didn't trust the system. I was pretty much the guy with 3 talents of silver.

Then Father opened my heart and I could at last see. I live in a world of my own creation, a world that I was "told" not to LOVE!!!!!  :dontknow:

Well that's what the words said! To Love Father and not the World. Ah.....(light comes on) It was not the Physical world but the Spirit of the World that I was to walk from.  :gimmefive:

LOVE  :HeartThrob:   The Spirit of LOVE is everywhere. Each of us have Love flowing in us and through us. I can create a truly BEAUTIFUL world through and for Love. What is it that I lack? What is it that anyone can do I say that can cause me to stumble? NOTHING!!!!!!!!!! :banana:

Awesome!!!!  They can't touch me...........Oh then who is sabotaging it, who is it dragging my creation down??

Satan? Of course. Satan is the blame. My world would be perfect if not for Satan, might as well blame Adam and of course Father for planning it like this. It's not my fault really.

B.S.  (Blatantly Silly) :laugh:

Satan cannot touch me unless I choose to focus more on him and the spirit of his world. The sole responsibility for the Love, Joy and Peace in the world I have created is of MY OWN making. Of course there is much I do not understand, but NOTHING I cannot LOVE  :HeartThrob:  with ALL that I am. I always believe that knowledge is POWER, but it is NOTHING without LOVE. How is it a baby can melt my heart? Because they are the pure essence of Love, as is any new born creature or plant.

What is it that I do NOT have for a perfect world?  NOTHING!! Psalm 23

If all of us lived IN Love we could change the VERY Spirit of the World. LOVE  :HeartThrob:  says anything is possible. Love will do it, if "I, we, us" Trust in the SPIRIT of LOVE and LIVE IT 24/7!!!! Love is more than a feeling, it is Pure Creative Energy. It seeks only peace and joy; love has no need for a sword evil cannot stand the "light" of true love. We can heal the planet and all who reside on it, but first we must heal ourselves by releasing all the love that we are to all of Father's creation, devoid of judgments, constraints and limitations. Love is not held back from us, it is we who hold back Love.

Jesus said be Perfect as Father is perfect. We are all capable of perfect Love.  :HeartThrob:

Please accept this with the joyous Love  :HeartThrob: in which it was written.

Your Sister, 
With Love, Julie  :girlheart:

I agree, Julie. "It's all about love." God is love, and I think we're here to learn to love like God. It ain't always easy when you're dealing with grumpy folks, but just keep sharing God's love and they'll be blessed.

[JulieTang84]

some more other things:

1 John 3:23 (AMP)
And this is His command, His injunction:  THAT WE SHOULD BELIEVE IN (put our faith and trust in and adhere to and rely on) THE NAME OF HIS SON JESUS CHRIST (the Messiah), and that we should love one another, just as He has commanded us.

That scripture (and explanations in parantheses) seems to summarize and pull together a lot of truth that's elsewhere in various places in the scriptures.  Amen.

Thank you James and thank you Anna  :HeartThrob:


By know means am I suggesting that one must "throw out" the Scriptures or any truth that has been gleaned. The Spirit is all-about imparting truth through a variety of means and mediums. In fact Love clears the way for Spirit to speak to our "hearts" in such away that the "truth" is "known" and "Understood" even though it cannot be necessarily explained.


Love opens doors of understanding, an understanding of truth that is known, felt and in many ways tangible. The Spirit of Truth (Love) brings a peace that surpasses anything I can hope to explain. It brings a joy that causes me to smile instantly even while thinking of anything that previously would have caused a frown. The Spirit of Truth also removes all fear or need to worry. I have always loved Psalm 23..."Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil." 


Scripture proves there is no need to fear Satan, that not one second can be added to a single life through worry. Scripture also teaches that it has nothing to do with "How good I perceive myself and how horrid I see others" On the contrary, Scriptures are very clear about how important it is that I LOVE my enemies and that I do good for them. What greater good can I possibly do in a Spiritual sense than to send (give) my enemies (my brothers and sisters with just a tiny flicker of spiritual light) all the Light of Love and Truth that I have. No conditions, no judgments and no holding back.


Spirt to spirit through unconditional love will open avenues for peace far more than anything physical. If we are to heal, we must heal from the inside first. The Physical will follow. Scripture teaches this and is implied when Jesus said to become as little children.


The Scriptures are an amazing collection of stories, parables, simillaries and metaphors. No two people will ever agree on every topic. Why is this? Father has designed our known Universe to such a detail that Scientists can calculate the most amazing things, because the rules of physics do not change. Even then,Quantum Physics seeks to understand a level of Fathers design that seemingly questions everything known about our physical world. Scientists can do this, yet Fathers children cannot agree on his Word. Why?


The answer is very simple and I will try to explain it this way. The words of a song come to mind: "Two men say they're Jesus. One of them must be wrong!"


The physical being seeks always to understand. Some go to great lengths and explore countless avenues in order to garner the greatest understanding. Whilst others take what they are told and never allow the knowledge to be questioned. One side is sure the other side will burn in Hell forever while the other side says Father will save All. Some believe the flood was global, some don't. Some believe the Bible is a book of parables, some a book of historical facts, mean while others believe it is a combination of both.


What is amusing and I am sure Father see's it as such, is that any number of Scriptures from all over Fathers Holy Word are used to "prove" a particular understanding. But this is all running to and fro, seeking to validate a "perceived" truth. Hard words certainly, for I myself am as guilty as this as anyone. What is it we are doing? What is it that all of this "discernment" has achieved? Has it moved any of us higher on ladder of truth? Or has it merely sought to divide, to create division between our brothers and sisters. This is not LOVE, for the Spirit of Love seeks to Unite what all else seeks to divide.


Spiritual truth (Love) removes the need to be "right."  The Spirit of Truth shows clearly what is 'known" and what is "perceived."  Father could care less about what I think "I know" He is most concerned with how I give my Love away. I have complete trust that I will be given all I need to know if and when I need it. I believe that for each of us. If any has a different understanding than I, can only mean that they were given something different to understand. This does not and cannot mean that they are right or wrong if they differ from me. What it MEANS that we must trust Father that all will be revealed in time and TRUST that our knowledge is as COMPLETE as it NEEDS to be at this time.


Any differences in understanding is not a cause for question but a call to LOVE. There are many divisions in Fathers children, but all can be removed through Love. Knowledge is only destructive when it builds walls of division, walls that Love seeks to destroy. I truly believe that there is no greater story to be told, of why (through Spirit) something is understood. We are all walking a solitary path home, lead by the SAME spirit.


What is more important our "Understanding" or our "LOVE" for one another?


Thank you Father,
Love Julie  :HeartThrob:

[jabcat]

Much agreement.   :thumbsup:

[VineBranch]

VineBranch, I truly hope that through Scripture and the discernment of Spirit that I have answered your question.

Are we not to Love Father First, all others as much, living as little children seeing every little plant in awe and amazement in this gigantic forest called life. We are to TRUST implicitly, listening always for small quiet voice of spirit; building everyone and everything with the LOVE of all Truth.

It is with Love that I write all of this.

Thank you Father,
Love Julie :girlheart:

NO!  All I asked was why you posted the same thing under a different name just because no one responded to the first one.  Was it that important to have people respond to you?

[JulieTang84]

NO!  All I asked was why you posted the same thing under a different name just because no one responded to the first one.  Was it that important to have people respond to you?

It would appear so, don't you think   :sigh:

I perhaps am being very egotistical because my original "post" was not well perceived. Likely because it was poorly packaged!!   

Love Julie   :HeartThrob:

[VineBranch]

NO!  All I asked was why you posted the same thing under a different name just because no one responded to the first one.  Was it that important to have people respond to you?

It would appear so, don't you think   :sigh:

I perhaps am being very egotistical because my original "post" was not well perceived. Likely because it was poorly packaged!!   

Love Julie   :HeartThrob:

So, you employed marketing and advertising strategies just to get people to respond to you?  That's just ... too funny.  Who knew, even on a Christian Forum it's all about the packaging.

Hey Tom, we can stop debating the merits of translation techniques, we can sell more copies of the new versions just by giving them prettier covers.
And Eve saw the cover of the new version and that it was pretty and did desire it.

God help us all.

[Tom]

NO!  All I asked was why you posted the same thing under a different name just because no one responded to the first one.  Was it that important to have people respond to you?

It would appear so, don't you think   :sigh:

I perhaps am being very egotistical because my original "post" was not well perceived. Likely because it was poorly packaged!!   

Love Julie   :HeartThrob:

So, you employed marketing and advertising strategies just to get people to respond to you?  That's just ... too funny.  Who knew, even on a Christian Forum it's all about the packaging.

Hey Tom, we can stop debating the merits of translation techniques, we can sell more copies of the new versions just by giving them prettier covers.
And Eve saw the cover of the new version and that it was pretty and did desire it.

God help us all.

I think Julie is simply doing whatever she can to continuously remind us, because it really seems we need to be reminded continuously, that love really is what it's all about, and I say God bless her for it.

"You shall not avenge nor shall you be resentful against the sons of your people. You will love your associate as yourself: I am Yahweh." (Leviticus 19:18)

"For this: "You shall not commit adultery," "you shall not murder," "you shall not steal," "you shall not testify falsely," "you shall not covet," and if there is any other precept, it is summed up in this saying, in this: "You shall love your associate as yourself."" (Romans 13:9)

"For the entire law is fulfilled in one word, in this: "You shall love your associate as yourself."" (Galatians 5:14)

"And still I am showing you a path, suited to transcendence.

Chapter 13
1 If I should be speaking in the languages of men and of the messengers, yet should have no love, I have become resounding copper or a clanging cymbal.
2 And if I should have prophecy and should be perceiving all secrets and all knowledge, and if I should have all faith, so as to transport mountains, yet have no love, I am nothing.
3 And if ever I should be morselling out all my possessions, and if I should be giving up my body, that I should be boasting, yet may have no love, in nothing do I benefit.
4 Love is patient, is kind. Love is not jealous. Love is not bragging, is not puffed up,
5 is not indecent, is not self-seeking, is not incensed, is not taking account of evil,
6 is not rejoicing in injustice, yet is rejoicing together with the truth,
7 is forgoing all, is believing all, is expecting all, is enduring all.
8 Love is never lapsing: yet, whether prophecies, they will be discarded, or languages, they will cease, or knowledge, it will be discarded.
9 For out of an instalment are we knowing, and out of an instalment are we prophesying.
10 Now whenever maturity may be coming, that which is out of an instalment shall be discarded.
11 When I was a minor, I spoke as a minor, I was disposed as a minor, I took account of things as a minor. Yet when I have become a man, I have discarded that which is a minor's.
12 For at present we are observing by means of a mirror, in an enigma, yet then, face to face. At present I know out of an instalment, yet then I shall recognize according as I am recognized also.
13 Yet now are remaining faith, expectation, love -- these three. Yet the greatest of these is love." (1 Corinthians 12:31-13:13)

"God is love" (1 John 4:8,16)

[Ross]

How do we learn what love is all about without practical demonstrations?
Man attempts to show love but there seems to be many flaws.

With the assurance of the coming ages we are being shown the difference between real love and fake love.
The tree of knowledge seems to indicate that we are to learn the difference between good and evil, and on what to base the decisions we make for each situation.
Christ  demonstrates His love for us by dying on the cross while we are sinners.
Greater love has no man.
Phil 2;3 " Do nothing in rivalry or vain glory, but in humility of mind counting one another more excellent than yourselves."

[jabcat]

Daily Encouragement Net
 
"Encourage one another daily" (Hebrews 3:13).


"Bearing with one another"

(This teaching follows my teaching on tolerance and diversity and the "putting up with" must have limitations. Certainly Paul is not speaking of putting up with heretical [apostate] or immoral living. In fact he denounced both!)

"How good and pleasant it is when brothers live together in unity!" (Psalm 133:1). "Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you" (Colossians 3:12,13).

http://www.dailyencouragement.net/perspectives/bearing.htm

[VineBranch]

I think Julie is simply doing whatever she can to continuously remind us, because it really seems we need to be reminded continuously, that love really is what it's all about, and I say God bless her for it.

Okay, just so I understand your take on this.  As Christians we as actually encouraging the notion that 'the end justifies the mean':  it doesn't matter what you do, or how you do it, as long you get your message across.  Cheating is fine as long as you win?

How then, are we any different from anyone else who has an axe to grind?  Bad doesn't become good just because we do it!  Are you really going to condone situational ethics? 

[jabcat]

VB, I don't understand what's to be so perturbed about.  What does it really matter if she posted what she did twice, with a little change in it?  If it was habitual, or if she was slamming the boards with 20 or 30 inappropriate posts a day, then we'd have an issue. None of us are perfect, and could be picked to death over the little things.  I don't think it's worth it.  As it is, I'd suggest letting it ride and move on to another topic if anyone's unhappy with this one.  I'd suggest we not struggle or pick unnecessarily.  There's plenty of "real" stuff in the world to deal with, people that want to deny the scriptures, argue things that aren't even close to being scriptural, etc., that might need some real appropriate input.  But I just don't see a reason for a struggle over this.  Blessings.

[VineBranch]

VB, I don't understand what's to be so perturbed about.  What does it really matter if she posted what she did twice, with a little change in it?  If it was habitual, or if she was slamming the boards with 20 or 30 inappropriate posts a day, then we'd have an issue. None of us are perfect, and could be picked to death over the little things.  I don't think it's worth it.  As it is, I'd suggest letting it ride and move on to another topic if anyone's unhappy with this one.  I'd suggest we not struggle or pick unnecessarily.  There's plenty of "real" stuff in the world to deal with, people that want to deny the scriptures, argue things that aren't even close to being scriptural, etc., that might need some real appropriate input.  But I just don't see a reason for a struggle over this.  Blessings.

Because re- posting something under a different title, simply because no-one responded strikes me as being manipulative.  If no-one responded to 'Love' in the title, would there have been third attempt with a different hook.  If it's about getting people to notice you and respond to you haven't we made it all about us, and not about Him?

[jabcat]

If that were the case, then my suggestion would be to not get manipulated, or even drawn into the discussion.  Again, unless it's some major doctrinal issue, someone absolutely trashing the scriptures, etc.  If that were the case it would be greatly appreciated if some sound scriptural input was provided.  In this case, I see that you've made your point, you mentioned it, expressed your POV.  I don't think it bears dwelling on (and on) or members need to beat each other into submission over such things.   :2c:

[jabcat]

P.S.  I'm going to PM