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Started by jbertonbounds, August 29, 2013, 05:35:21 PM

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jbertonbounds

Quote from some preacher's devotional:
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"We should welcome the lost. Until they come to know Jesus you can save the commandments for Bible study. The Bible does not apply to unsaved people. If we reject the lost and hurting that come to us we have become nothing more than a social club."

Really?  What do you think?

WhiteWings

Luke 12:48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For to whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.


It could be argued the lost are given nothing.
That said, ask lost Pharao if God didn't force him to accept the commandments.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

jbertonbounds

I believe the scriptures definitely apply to all the human race.  To assume otherwise would be just pure nonsense.

ded2daworld

Listening to a radio preacher yesterday interviewing a missionary that had been successful with an amazonian tribe. He said it was easy to convert them because:(and he repeated this statement at least six times during the interview) "They are so happy to hear the good news of the gospel - that God loves those that love him."
WHAT!! Sounds like a very conditionally loving God. We can get love like that from anyone. Even a hooker will "love" you as long as you pay enough money. If God only loves those that love him - that's not good news at all. :Chinscratch:

JulieTang84

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Quote from: jbertonbounds on August 29, 2013, 05:35:21 PM
Quote from some preacher's devotional:
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"We should welcome the lost. Until they come to know Jesus you can save the commandments for Bible study. The Bible does not apply to unsaved people. If we reject the lost and hurting that come to us we have become nothing more than a social club."

Really?  What do you think?

The Scriptures are for all, but Father does not expect everyone to come to the knowledge of truth, infact he has hardened the hearts of many.

But here is the kicker. He EXPECTS each one of US too love each and every one whose heart is closed to the light of truth, to love them like a brother and a sister

Of what use is the truth without unconditional love?   :HeartThrob:

Each and every time we look sideways at anyone we should feel utter shame for spitting in the face of Father.

Love is always the answer, so much more so than any question.

Much Love and my share of shame.

Julie   :HeartThrob:   

anna274

Quote from: JulieTang84 on August 30, 2013, 10:38:32 PM

Of what use is the truth without unconditional love?   :HeartThrob:

Each and every time we look sideways at anyone we should feel utter shame for spitting in the face of Father.

Love is always the answer, so much more so than any question.

Much Love and my share of shame.

Julie   :HeartThrob:

Thank you so much Julie  -- This really touched my heart. :HeartThrob:

My heart is broken each time I hear a "believer" loudly proclaim the sins of others. We are to proclaim the good news...  God so loved us that while we were yet sinners He sent Jesus to die for us that we may have life.

jbertonbounds

Quote from: ded2daworld on August 30, 2013, 10:15:39 PM
Listening to a radio preacher yesterday interviewing a missionary that had been successful with an amazonian tribe. He said it was easy to convert them because:(and he repeated this statement at least six times during the interview) "They are so happy to hear the good news of the gospel - that God loves those that love him."
WHAT!! Sounds like a very conditionally loving God. We can get love like that from anyone. Even a hooker will "love" you as long as you pay enough money. If God only loves those that love him - that's not good news at all. :Chinscratch:

Absolutely.  :iagree:

jbertonbounds

It all goes back to the utter distortion that ET puts on the whole gospel.  There are no conditions with God's love, even though most of the world believes His love is conditional.  They won't say that, but that is the kind of love they believe in.  Everything God does is because of love - because GOD IS LOVE.

JulieTang84

Quote from: anna274 on August 30, 2013, 11:00:29 PM
Quote from: JulieTang84 on August 30, 2013, 10:38:32 PM

Of what use is the truth without unconditional love?   :HeartThrob:

Each and every time we look sideways at anyone we should feel utter shame for spitting in the face of Father.

Love is always the answer, so much more so than any question.

Much Love and my share of shame.

Julie   :HeartThrob:

Thank you so much Julie  -- This really touched my heart. :HeartThrob:

My heart is broken each time I hear a "believer" loudly proclaim the sins of others. We are to proclaim the good news...  God so loved us that while we were yet sinners He sent Jesus to die for us that we may have life.


Thank you so much Anna as your response really touched my heart. I really gave a lot of thought on wether to post it or not.  I just believe beyond doubt that the measure of Truth is measured in love.


Yes, Fathers Love for us is so far beyond anything we could ever hope to imagine. I know you see this too  :HeartThrob:


Love Julie  :girlheart: