Is this refering to Satan?

[jbertonbounds]

Ezekial 28 [ESV]
20 The word of the Lord came to me: 21 "Son of man, set your face toward Sidon, and prophesy against her 22 and say, Thus says the Lord God:
"Behold, I am against you, O Sidon,
    and I will manifest my glory in your midst.
And they shall know that I am the Lord
    when I execute judgments in her
    and manifest my holiness in her;
23 for I will send pestilence into her,
    and blood into her streets;
and the slain shall fall in her midst,
    by the sword that is against her on every side.
Then they will know that I am the Lord.
24 "And for the house of Israel there shall be no more a brier to prick or a thorn to hurt them among all their neighbors who have treated them with contempt. Then they will know that I am the Lord God.

[rosered]

    Hi John ,

I believe its reffering to Babylon ,   for me ,   the Lord gave her space  to repent , thoughout the Word of God
Sidon was one of her   many lovers Strong's G4605 - Sidōn
Sidon or Zidon = "hunting"

1) an ancient and wealthy city of Phoenicia, on the east coast of the Mediterranean Sea, less than 20 miles (30 km) north of Tyre

Sidon = "hunting"

Mat 11:21 Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon4605, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.

Luk 10:14 But it shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon4605 at the judgment, than for you.



Rev 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
Rev 18:15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,
Rev 18:19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.

[ded2daworld]

IMO, it's referring to Sidon

[JulieTang84]

I tend to agree with ded2daworld. I did some searching online and could find to reference to either Satan or Babylon.

I found a wonderful biblical "history" of Sidon which you might find interesting.

Love, Julie :HeartThrob:

Sidon   by Wayne Blank   http://www.keyway.ca/htm2001/20010416.htm

Sidon, or Zidon, is an ancient city located on the coast of the The Mediterranean Sea, about half way between Beirut and Tyre. It was founded after The Flood as a Canaanite city, named after Noah's great-grandson Sidon: "The sons of Noah who went forth from the ark were Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Ham was the father of Canaan ... Canaan became the father of Sidon his first-born ... And the territory of the Canaanites extended from Sidon, in the direction of Gerar, as far as Gaza, and in the direction of Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, and Zeboiim, as far as Lasha." (Genesis 9:18 10:15,19 RSV)

Sidon became a Phoenician city, along with Tyre, with which it was associated, and they became famous for their industry and commerce. Although they are often mentioned together in later Bible History, Sidon was slightly older, sometimes referred to as the "mother city" of Tyre, which was sometimes called the "daughter city" (e.g. Isaiah 23:12).

After the Israelites entered the Promised Land under Joshua, Sidon was included within the territory of Asher (see Tribal Lands), but it was not fully taken (i.e. Judges 1:31), and remained an opposing force to Israel (e.g. Judges 10:12). By the time of King David however, Sidon began to fade as a regional power. Solomon (see also Solomon's Kingdom) became allied to Sidon, even including Sidonian women among his many wives and mistresses (1 Kings 11:1), who, along with all of the others, led him into their idolatry (1 Kings 11:33).

Sidon is mentioned by the prophets Isaiah (e.g. Isaiah 23:2,4,12), Jeremiah (Jeremiah 25:22, 27:3, 47:4), Ezekiel (Ezekiel 27:8, 28:21, 32:30) and Joel (Joel 3:4).

Having lived nearly all of His human life in Nazareth and Capernaum in Galilee, Jesus Christ visited Sidon on occasion (Matthew 15:21, Mark 7:24), and numerous people from Sidon listened to Him (Mark 3:8, Luke 6:17).

Sidon remained a major seaport in New Testament times. It was from Sidon that the apostle Paul sailed for Rome (Acts 27:3,4)

[rosered]

of course you guys are right !!   I was thorwn  by calling  Sidon a    HER     :eek:

SHE is a city   not a he  :doh:
my apologies  :punish:

[rosered]

   Hi John  ,

  I think you were referring to  the King of Babylon ,   Tyre the [ rock ]  meaning who is not the rock Jesus Christ true foundation      to build upon
   and him being an adversary to Gods will   , was humbled such as King Nebuchadnezzer also a king of Babylon  for a time
 

Ezekiel 28
English Standard Version (ESV)

Prophecy Against the Prince of Tyre
28 The word of the Lord came to me: 2 (A)"Son of man, say to the prince of Tyre, Thus says the Lord God:

(C)"Because your heart is proud,
    and (D)you have said, 'I am a god,
I sit in the seat of the gods,
    in the heart of the seas,'
yet (E)you are but a man, and no god,
    (F)though you make your heart like the heart of a god—
3 (G)you are indeed wiser (H)than (I)Daniel;
    no secret is hidden from you;
4 by your wisdom and your understanding
    (J)you have made wealth for yourself,
and have gathered gold and silver
    into your treasuries;
5 by your great wisdom in your trade   


you have increased your wealth,
    and (K)your heart has become proud in your wealth—6 therefore thus says the Lord God:
(L)Because you make your heart
    like the heart of a god,7 therefore, behold, I will bring (M)foreigners upon you,
    the most ruthless of the nations;
and they shall draw their swords against (N)the beauty of your wisdom
    and defile (O)your splendor.
8 (P)They shall thrust you down into the pit,
    (Q)and you shall die the death of the slain
    in the heart of the seas.9 (R)Will you still say, 'I am a god,'
    in the presence of those who kill you,
though (S)you are but a man, and no god,
    in the hands of those who slay you?
10 (T)You shall die the death of the uncircumcised
    by the hand of foreigners;
    (U)for I have spoken, declares the Lord God."
A Lament over the King of Tyre
11 Moreover, the word of the Lord came to me:


12 (V)"Son of man, (W)raise a lamentation over (X)the king of Tyre, and say to him, Thus says the Lord God:

"You were the signet of perfection,[a]
    (Y)full of wisdom and (Z)perfect in beauty.
13 You were in (AA)Eden, the garden of God;
    (AB)every precious stone was your covering,
(AC)sardius, topaz, and diamond,
    beryl, onyx, and jasper,
sapphire, (AD)emerald, and carbuncle;
    and crafted in gold were your settings
    and your engravings.[c]
(AE)On the day that you were created
    they were prepared.
14 You were an anointed (AF)guardian cherub.
    I placed you;[d] you were on (AG)the holy mountain of God;
    in the midst of the stones of fire you walked.
15 You were blameless in your ways
    (AH)from the day you were created,
    till unrighteousness was found in you.
16 In the abundance of (AI)your trade
    you were filled with violence in your midst, and you sinned;
so I cast you as a profane thing from (AJ)the mountain of God,
    and I destroyed you,[e] (AK)O guardian cherub,    from the midst of the stones of fire.
17 (AL)Your heart was proud because of (AM)your beauty;
    you corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor.
I cast you to the ground;
    I exposed you before kings,
    to feast their eyes on you.
18 By the multitude of your iniquities,
    in the unrighteousness of your trade
    you profaned your sanctuaries;
so (AN)I brought fire out from your midst;
    it consumed you,
and I turned you to ashes on the earth
    (AO)in the sight of all who saw you.
19 All who know you among the peoples
    are appalled at you;
(AP)you have come to a dreadful end
    and shall be no more forever."

Prophecy Against Sidon
20 The word of the Lord came to me: 21 (AQ)"Son of man, (AR)set your face toward (AS)Sidon, and (AT)prophesy against her 22 and say, Thus says the Lord God:

"Behold, (AU)I am against you, O Sidon,
    and (AV)I will manifest my glory in your midst.
And (AW)they shall know that I am the Lord
    (AX)when I execute judgments in her
    and (AY)manifest my holiness in her;
23 for I will send (AZ)pestilence into her,
    and blood into her streets;
and the slain shall fall in her midst,
    by the sword that is against her on every side.
Then they will know that I am the Lord.

24 "And for the house of Israel (BA)there shall be no more a brier to prick or (BB)a thorn to hurt them among all their neighbors (BC)who have treated them with contempt. Then they will know that I am the Lord God.

Israel Gathered in Security
25 "Thus says the Lord God: (BD)When I gather the house of Israel from the peoples among whom they are scattered, and (BE)manifest my holiness in them in the sight of the nations, (BF)then they shall dwell in their own land that I gave to my servant Jacob. 26 (BG)And they shall dwell securely in it, and they shall build houses and plant vineyards. They shall dwell securely, (BH)when I execute judgments upon all their neighbors (BI)who have treated them with contempt. (BJ)Then they will know that I am the Lord their God."

Footnotes:
a.Ezekiel 28:12 The meaning of the Hebrew phrase is uncertain
b.Ezekiel 28:13 Or lapis lazuli
c.Ezekiel 28:13 The meaning of the Hebrew phrase is uncertain
d.Ezekiel 28:14 The meaning of the Hebrew phrase is uncertain
e.Ezekiel 28:16 Or banished you

[jbertonbounds]

Oops!

I am sorry.  I goofed.  I posted the wrong scripture.

See my corrected post:

http://tentmaker.org/forum/lounge/new-is-this-talking-about/

[rosered]

  by Don Stewart


Not every Bible student agrees that Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 refers to the original fall of Satan. If, however, they do contain references to his original fall, then why was the king of Tyre and the king of Babylon first addressed?

Not Uncommon Practice

It is not uncommon in Scripture for the writer to move from descriptions of earthly events to heavenly events - when there were some parallels between the two. For example, Psalm 45 first describes an earthly king, but then goes on to describe the Messiah - the King who will come from heaven.

Practical Purpose

But why was the king of Tyre and the king of Babylon first addressed? It is possible that the prophet did it this way for a practical purpose. The king of Tyre and the king of Babylon had both claimed worship as Divine Beings (see Daniel 3:1-12). They made their subjects bow down to them. They wanted to be treated as God by their people.

Warning

God, therefore, used these prophets to warn against this blasphemy by going back to the dateless past. It recounted the story when an angel originally rebelled against Him and became the Devil. The angel who began the rebellion did so by saying, "I will be like God."

Lesson

There was an obvious lesson in all of this. If God had originally punished the blasphemy and pride of this mighty angel who rebelled, then He will certainly punish any human king who claims himself to be God.

Adam And Eve

Satan had already attempted the same thing with Adam and Eve. He said.


for God does know that in the day you eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and you shall be as God, knowing good and evil (Genesis 3:5).


This promise of Satan, that they would be as God in some sense, can be compared to the statement found in Isaiah where this angel himself wanted to be like God.


I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High (Isaiah 14:14).


Temptation Of Jesus

His pride, arrogance, and desire to be worshipped continued as he tempted the Lord Jesus.


and he said to Him, "All these I will give You, if You will fall down and worship me " (Matthew 4:9).


Satan wanted the One who deserved worship - the Lord Jesus - to bow down and worship him.

God Of This Age

Satan is also called "the god of this age" in Scripture.


whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them (2 Corinthians 4:4).


Therefore Satan has been consistent from the beginning in attempting to be like God, and tempting others to do the same.

Temporary Satisfaction

This long-held ambition of Satan will be temporarily satisfied when he, and his own representative the Antichrist, will be worshipped by the inhabitants of the earth.


and they worshipped the dragon, because he gave his authority unto the beast; and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? And who is able to war with him? (Revelation 13:4).


For a short period of time, his desire to be worshipped will be satisfied.

Summary
Seemingly, God used the example of two pagan kings, those of Tyre and Babylon, to illustrate the original fall of the angel who became the Devil. Their desire to be worshipped is similar to his own desire. Consequently, the fall of this angel from his lofty position, is a lesson for all who would attempt to take the place of God.

[jbertonbounds]

  by Don Stewart


Not every Bible student agrees that Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 refers to the original fall of Satan. If, however, they do contain references to his original fall, then why was the king of Tyre and the king of Babylon first addressed?

Not Uncommon Practice

It is not uncommon in Scripture for the writer to move from descriptions of earthly events to heavenly events - when there were some parallels between the two. For example, Psalm 45 first describes an earthly king, but then goes on to describe the Messiah - the King who will come from heaven.

Practical Purpose

But why was the king of Tyre and the king of Babylon first addressed? It is possible that the prophet did it this way for a practical purpose. The king of Tyre and the king of Babylon had both claimed worship as Divine Beings (see Daniel 3:1-12). They made their subjects bow down to them. They wanted to be treated as God by their people.

Warning

God, therefore, used these prophets to warn against this blasphemy by going back to the dateless past. It recounted the story when an angel originally rebelled against Him and became the Devil. The angel who began the rebellion did so by saying, "I will be like God."

Lesson

There was an obvious lesson in all of this. If God had originally punished the blasphemy and pride of this mighty angel who rebelled, then He will certainly punish any human king who claims himself to be God.

Adam And Eve

Satan had already attempted the same thing with Adam and Eve. He said.


for God does know that in the day you eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and you shall be as God, knowing good and evil (Genesis 3:5).


This promise of Satan, that they would be as God in some sense, can be compared to the statement found in Isaiah where this angel himself wanted to be like God.


I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High (Isaiah 14:14).


Temptation Of Jesus

His pride, arrogance, and desire to be worshipped continued as he tempted the Lord Jesus.


and he said to Him, "All these I will give You, if You will fall down and worship me " (Matthew 4:9).


Satan wanted the One who deserved worship - the Lord Jesus - to bow down and worship him.

God Of This Age

Satan is also called "the god of this age" in Scripture.


whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them (2 Corinthians 4:4).


Therefore Satan has been consistent from the beginning in attempting to be like God, and tempting others to do the same.

Temporary Satisfaction

This long-held ambition of Satan will be temporarily satisfied when he, and his own representative the Antichrist, will be worshipped by the inhabitants of the earth.


and they worshipped the dragon, because he gave his authority unto the beast; and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? And who is able to war with him? (Revelation 13:4).


For a short period of time, his desire to be worshipped will be satisfied.

Summary
Seemingly, God used the example of two pagan kings, those of Tyre and Babylon, to illustrate the original fall of the angel who became the Devil. Their desire to be worshipped is similar to his own desire. Consequently, the fall of this angel from his lofty position, is a lesson for all who would attempt to take the place of God.

Very interesting post.  It does offer a possible answer to the question.  Don't forget to check my correction to this OP.
http://tentmaker.org/forum/lounge/new-is-this-talking-about/