Are Damnationists Cowards

[aaronclark1989]

I just got done posting a comment on a damnationists video about universal salvation and after that they responded to me once and then blocked me from responding back and I have had this happen a few times where I see a video of a damnationist talking about hell and then I leave comment about universal salvation and then they respond to me once and then block me from responding back does that not seem cowardice in certain ways.

[micah7:9]

I just got done posting a comment on a damnationists video about universal salvation and after that they responded to me once and then blocked me from responding back and I have had this happen a few times where I see a video of a damnationist talking about hell and then I leave comment about universal salvation and then they respond to me once and then block me from responding back does that not seem cowardice in certain ways.

Get used to it my friend. :dsunny:

[Warhawk17]

I've noticed this from a number of people. Kerrigan Skelly of Pinpoint Evangelism is one of the worst offenders in that regard. He is the epitome of hyper-Arminianism as he stands on street corners and college campuses with his extremely legalistic "turn or burn" message. Obviously people don't take too kindly to his message, and when he makes people angry, he is very quick to whine to the cops or city officials about being "persecuted."

He is also very quick to block any comments that disagree with him and calls those people "angry atheists" or "angry Calvinists." Oddly enough I have never seen him mention UR, but he hates Calvinism like you wouldn't believe. He even has another channel called RefutingCalvinism. I don't feel like posting anything from either of his demonic channels so check them out for yourself if you would like.

[jbertonbounds]

I just got done posting a comment on a damnationists video about universal salvation and after that they responded to me once and then blocked me from responding back and I have had this happen a few times where I see a video of a damnationist talking about hell and then I leave comment about universal salvation and then they respond to me once and then block me from responding back does that not seem cowardice in certain ways.

YES!

On the other hand, if they truly believe what they preach, then it is understandable that they would feel the need to protect their message from being distorted by other views.  I was posting things about UR on FaceBook, and some of my so-called friends were poo-pooing on my posts with degrading, judgmental, and even condemning comments.  I would ask them to send me a private message and I did delete a few of the negative remarks (the worst ones).  I actually felt the need to block 3 of the friends from seeing any more of my stuff on FaceBook.  So, maybe it's not necessarily cowardly, even if it seems so.

[micah7:9]

No they are not cowards, they are just misled, and have no intention of finding or seekng the truth. They really believe what they believe, don't you? I don't find this a hard place, we who believe that God is Love, and rest in that knowledge, knowing that in His time we may be used, or He will use another way to bring all His children to know He is the Lord, the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, Is, Was, and Will be. :dsunny: He is so Wonderful!

[Lazarus Short]

It may not be cowardice, but just the terror of cognitive dissonance when a "versus" idea sidles onto their personal radar...

[eaglesway]

I've noticed this from a number of people. Kerrigan Skelly of Pinpoint Evangelism is one of the worst offenders in that regard. He is the epitome of hyper-Arminianism as he stands on street corners and college campuses with his extremely legalistic "turn or burn" message. Obviously people don't take too kindly to his message, and when he makes people angry, he is very quick to whine to the cops or city officials about being "persecuted."

He is also very quick to block any comments that disagree with him and calls those people "angry atheists" or "angry Calvinists." Oddly enough I have never seen him mention UR, but he hates Calvinism like you wouldn't believe. He even has another channel called RefutingCalvinism. I don't feel like posting anything from either of his demonic channels so check them out for yourself if you would like.

The cacophony of angry voices can never overcome the still small voice......"If I be lifted up I will draw all men unto me.....Father forgive them, they dont kno what they are doing"

[Eduard]

Not all but some of them definitely are. They say they "love" God because they're afraid of being punished,...

[mplsfitter539]

Not all but some of them definitely are. They say they "love" God because they're afraid of being punished,...

Right on brother. I have found this to be very true. They are afraid of the truth because they are first afraid of ET. They believe in ET and therefore their faith is based on fear. Once a mainstream "Christian" says their magic prayer to be saved in the Orthodox manner they become fearful of things or ideas that were not entertained prior to their converting. Once the prayer is said they become devoted to the Orthodox manner and refuse the Truth of Yahweh over tradition.

My parents think I am crazy because I am not following the 95% of mainstream. They have told me that what they believe to be true is of the traditions of men.

[marie glen]

I just got done posting a comment on a damnationists video about universal salvation and after that they responded to me once and then blocked me from responding back and I have had this happen a few times where I see a video of a damnationist talking about hell and then I leave comment about universal salvation and then they respond to me once and then block me from responding back does that not seem cowardice in certain ways.

I suppose I would say cowardice aNd censorship.. and this of course (in religion and in politics) is how things are handled when they are insecure in the value of their own response.. they have a repeated mantra or slogan (or doctrine) but the knowledge of the hows and whys of it are lacking so they do not feel equipped to debate the issue.. deep down they know they are simply blindly adhering to the slogan or doctrine, whereas otherwise, they would welcome the opportunity to debate the issue, feeling totally up to it, that is! Instead, it's :eek: and a spirit of domination.. imo :))

[marie glen]

I've learned in such circumstances to stick to posting straight scripture with no comment(s). It's harder to argue and make a case against a scripture quote and others reading can read the source of UR belief/perception and draw their own conclusions.. plus the guy arguing against the scripture, if he does so, looks less than wise.. And if he doesn't argue, that says it all too :))

[marie glen]

The cacophony of angry voices can never overcome the still small voice......"If I be lifted up I will draw all men unto me.....Father forgive them, they dont kno what they are doing"

[lastpost]

Man can be such a bizarre creature that the one who has butchered the beauty of the Christ the most, then feels the greatest right to shout about it the loudest from a soap box.

Having saluted the house, shake the dust off the feet. Simply plough the furrow around the boulder!

[jbertonbounds]

I've learned in such circumstances to stick to posting straight scripture with no comment(s). It's harder to argue and make a case against a scripture quote and others reading can read the source of UR belief/perception and draw their own conclusions.. plus the guy arguing against the scripture, if he does so, looks less than wise.. And if he doesn't argue, that says it all too :))

Excellent idea. :thumbsup:  And they will be less likely to delete scripture, but I wouldn't put it past them.

[jbertonbounds]

I have had this thought often lately:

ET's act like they think we are going to hell for preaching UR.

If we are wrong about UR (which we are not)
but if we are  (which we are not)
Is God going to throw us into this hell because we gave him credit for having more love, grace, and forgiveness than he really has?

[mplsfitter539]

I have had this thought often lately:

ET's act like they think we are going to hell for preaching UR.

If we are wrong about UR (which we are not)
but if we are  (which we are not)
Is God going to throw us into this hell because we gave him credit for having more love, grace, and forgiveness than he really has?

Good point jberton, Yahweh destroys the carnal man not the man. When they hear the word destroy they think it means the man is destroyed in fire when its just the carnal man in correctional fire that will be destroyed on this side of the grave or the other side either way He has all the time He needs to fully accomplish His ultimate goal. The only control we have over this process is which side of the grave we do it on. We are in the process of becoming saved right now they we be saved in the future.

[marie glen]

...And they will be less likely to delete scripture, but I wouldn't put it past them.

Well... there was all that Bible burning that went on around the time of the inquisitions (rev 12:13,14,sorry can never seem to help myself :laughing7: )

I have had this thought often lately:

ET's act like they think we are going to hell for preaching UR.

If we are wrong about UR (which we are not)
but if we are  (which we are not)
Is God going to throw us into this hell because we gave him credit for having more love, grace, and forgiveness than he really has?

rofL, that's almost funny! I've gotten that impression about not believing in a literal hell as a lake of fire.. how can such a doctrine not be seen as blasphemy against God (Yahweh's) good and pure nature?! craazzy! and one day they'll know it! :girlheart: :smile:

[jbertonbounds]

Sometimes I feel grief because my own earthly father spent his entire career preaching ET (Baptist).  He was definitely NOT a coward.  He preached boldly in the pulpit and out in the world.  He believed it with all his heart.  He loved people and he loved God.  He never meant to teach false doctrine, and he never meant to mislead anyone.  Now he is very old and has Alzheimer's.  I wish I could talk to him about UR, but he is no longer capable of adult-level conversation.  If he were capable, I am probably the only one in this world who might possibly have a chance to get the truth through to him.

[sheila]

jb...I think those who preach error..will re-act just like we did when we found out different...

     I beleive when God is finished with his work[Job] on man...this is the reply.

   Job 42  I KNOW that you can do all things[nothing is impossible with God];no PLAN OF YOURS[the salvation

  of all men]can be thwarted. You asked 'who is this that obscures my counsel without knowledge?[my people

perish due to laack of knowledge]

    SURELY I SPOKE OF THINGS I DID NOT UNDERSTAND

   THINGS TOO WONDERFUL FOR ME TO KNOW

[jbertonbounds]

jb...I think those who preach error..will re-act just like we did when we found out different...

     I beleive when God is finished with his work[Job] on man...this is the reply.

   Job 42  I KNOW that you can do all things[nothing is impossible with God];no PLAN OF YOURS[the salvation

  of all men]can be thwarted. You asked 'who is this that obscures my counsel without knowledge?[my people

perish due to laack of knowledge]

    SURELY I SPOKE OF THINGS I DID NOT UNDERSTAND

   THINGS TOO WONDERFUL FOR ME TO KNOW

Thanks, Sheila.  That is comforting. :HeartThrob:

[lomarah]

Amen Sheila.  :HeartThrob:

JBB I used to work in a home with Alzheimer's patients. I saw this video a little while back and it really touched me. I would encourage you to speak about God's unfailing love even if you think he won't understand. I believe his spirit will!  :HeartThrob:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrZXz10FcVM

[mplsfitter539]

Amen Sheila.  :HeartThrob:

JBB I used to work in a home with Alzheimer's patients. I saw this video a little while back and it really touched me. I would encourage you to speak about God's unfailing love even if you think he won't understand. I believe his spirit will!  :HeartThrob:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrZXz10FcVM

Both my mother and father are 73 years old and believe in ET with all of their hearts. My mother shows a bit of hope but my father spent his life waiting for something good to come out of me. Now that I know that everything he and my mother believe about Yahweh is upside down and their is almost nothing left that I can say so I live to show them instead. They both admit that they have seen a big change in me for the good. I have noticed that both of them are changing even though they will not agree with me I have seen a visible change in them.

[jbertonbounds]

Amen Sheila.  :HeartThrob:

JBB I used to work in a home with Alzheimer's patients. I saw this video a little while back and it really touched me. I would encourage you to speak about God's unfailing love even if you think he won't understand. I believe his spirit will!  :HeartThrob:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrZXz10FcVM

Thanks Lo!

[lomarah]

 :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob:

[lastpost]

It has been a privilege to be allowed into your community and I feel such gratitude. I am not of this fold nor could I pretend to be but I am glad to say that I have made some friends and have been surprised at how strong is the desire to write as the Holy Spirit sends me through the pages of the Sacred Record as we communicate.

Forgive me if this is not presented correctly. We have all heard that no mind has conceived what the Lord has in store for those who love Him. My opinion is that you cannot call out to others in love and arrest their attention to sin less without the Lord God blessing you. Remember our Lord brought Glad Tidings of the Kingdom of God telling people to repent and He showed the Way.

So may that be, I hope, some consolation if you worry about your good-hearted loved ones. What then if they are surrounded by gifts given so lavishly by He who is Love? Surely there might be the thought: "I did not earn this. How I wish I had done more, I do not deserve this"!