Adam is still in the sixth day and is being created in God's express image

[SevanthDay]

Hello Members:

This may appear to be an unusual topic but how we understand God creating us in his express image is important and if we believe as we have been taught that man was completed at the beginning and the work was already accomplished then what good is Jesus atonement.

On the other hand if we understand that the image God created humanity is as a temporal image like a shadow copy of the real image to later be discarded for the express image that we have through the out working of Jesus atonement it makes more practical sense.

Also, we should consider that humanity is in the sixth day of creation and when God's work on humanity is complete  humanity will enter the Sabbath rest or seventh day of creation.

We should not assume that God has already completed humanity in God's image if we see Genesis 1:2:3 written as a narrative prologue and Genesis 2:4 as an on going account of creation: "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created in the day that Jehovah God was making earth and heavens." Genesis 2:4

There is much to discuss in this interesting topic crucial to our understanding and with a proper premise of God creating Adam in God's image it will opens doors to understanding God's purposes for man.

Your comments and objections and questions deeply appreciated.

God bless you,

Seventh Day

[rosered]

  Welcome Seventh Day,

A deep subject , that can go into a thousand different directions ,
    your first question
or thoughts

This may appear to be an unusual topic but how we understand God creating us in his express image is important and if we believe as we have been taught that man was completed at the beginning and the work was already accomplished then what good is Jesus atonement.

in Gen 1  ;31  the works of God  stop at the sixth day  , but the Tree of Life   has seed   of its kind in itself  Gen 1:12   , to me Jesus Christ is everything ! :HeartThrob:

Jesus Christ is the Sabbaoth  DAY ,/Seventh   day   ,  to me , our rest is in Him  , He is our new heaven and earth 

  in Adam all  die    the soul cannot give life but its own  life,     Jesus  did this very thing , the second Adam  /Jesus Christ is His name is the Life giving Spirit       .   so the dead  Him being first born from the dead   raised back to Life again though Him and His  Cross  / atonnement   /sacrifice
and His seed  /Word of God is planted in the hearts of  dead earth[old Adam ]   and new Life springs fourth


Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put [him] to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see [his] seed, he shall prolong [his] days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. 
Isa 53:11   He shall see of the travail of his soul, [and] shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. 


Isa 53:12   Therefore will I divide him [a portion] with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors. 





But some [man] will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come? 


1Cr 15:36   [Thou] fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die: 


1Cr 15:37   And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other [grain]: 


1Cr 15:38   But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body. 

1Cr 15:39   All flesh [is] not the same flesh: but [there is] one [kind of] flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, [and] another of birds. 


1Cr 15:40   [There are] also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial [is] one, and the [glory] of the terrestrial [is] another. 


1Cr 15:41   [There is] one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for [one] star differeth from [another] star in glory. 


1Cr 15:42   So also [is] the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 


1Cr 15:43   It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 


1Cr 15:44   It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 


1Cr 15:45  And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam [was made] a quickening spirit. 

1Cr 15:46   Howbeit that [was] not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 


1Cr 15:47   The first man [is] of the earth, earthy: the second man [is] the Lord from heaven. 


1Cr 15:48   As [is] the earthy, such [are] they also that are earthy: and as [is] the heavenly, such [are] they also that are heavenly. 


1Cr 15:49   And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. 


1Cr 15:50 ¶ Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 


1Cr 15:51   Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 


1Cr 15:52   In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 


1Cr 15:53   For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal [must] put on immortality. 


1Cr 15:54   So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 


1Cr 15:55   O death, where [is] thy sting? O grave, where [is] thy victory? 


1Cr 15:56   The sting of death [is] sin; and the strength of sin [is] the law. 


1Cr 15:57   But thanks [be] to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. 


1Cr 15:58   Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord. 


   the Word and Spirit  of  Life is the power and Wisdom over death     

[marie glen]

I do believe God (Yahweh) is still creating.. us.. I think of it as He is creating His family. The human family, albeit as we have been in the likeness of dust, and mortal, we shall be in the likeness of heavenly, and immortal.. As children of God, "finished".

It seems to me, there's some important lesson/truth, we need to know, and understand, to the point it is engraved and deeeply ingrained upon every heart and mind. And how best to "learn" (imo) than through experience.. (and then, I believe, thoroughly reviewed in the long day of what is called 'Judgment' Day which I think of as a day of intense examination of all human history, etc, as to what went wrong, or what perhaps went right once in a while.) Intense review.

I think of it as "He is writing on the hearts, His law" - His Will. Thus deep in every psyche.

p.s - greetings! :))

[SevanthDay]

Hello marie glen:

Do you agree that Genesis 1:2:3 is written as a narratives prologue to Genesis and 2:4 as an on going account of creation?

God bless you,

SeventhDay

[SevanthDay]

Hello rosered:

Do you believe that Jesus was resurrected with a spiritual body?

God bless you,

SeventhDay

[rosered]

Hello rosered:

Do you believe that Jesus was resurrected with a spiritual body?

God bless you,

SeventhDay

Hi Dear  Seventh ,

  I believe He was always ''SPIRITUAL''     Just a pattern   to show us the way of Gods Wisdom and mysteries  , the hidden revealed , the whole Bible is a   testimony   of Gods  goodness and  declaring   His son   , and the Son declaring His Father    thoughout .
  God Bless you and yours as well

[rosered]

  Dear Seventh Day ,
  Do you believe that the image/shadow  , idea      God made man  was male and female   in the begining , Do you think that is a part of His nature and  divinity  ?

  Thank you , and peace

[SevanthDay]

Hello rosered:

"I believe He was always "SPIRITUAL"     Just a pattern   to show us the way of Gods Wisdom and mysteries  , the hidden revealed , the whole Bible is a   testimony   of Gods  goodness and  declaring   His son   , and the Son declaring His Father    thoughout .
  God Bless you and yours as well "

Yes. I believe that Jesus is the Logos, the word of God, and is Spirit and is always in the now but that he came into humanity from a heavenly state of existence born conceived of the Holy Spirit and born in the flesh through Mary and when he died he rose as a spiritual body and went back to his former spiritual existence as the logos and son of man which is one spiritual soul with two natures. I hope I did not make that too complicated. However, Jesus has always been with us as the logos, the son of God.

God bless you,

SeventhDay

[SevanthDay]

Hello rosered:

  Do you believe that the image/shadow  , idea      God made man  was male and female   in the begining , Do you think that is a part of His nature and  divinity  ?


A shadow points to the reality and once we see the realty the shadow loses it significance and the reality stays. God's shadow is just a resemblance and though it is real it is not the express image of what it points to. No, the shadow is an illusion which the light of God dispels. I do not see God's nature and divinity as a shadow.

God bless you,

SeventhDay

[rosered]

Hello rosered:

 

Do you believe that the image/shadow  , idea      God made man  was male and female   in the begining , Do you think that is a part of His nature and  divinity  ?


A shadow points to the reality and once we see the realty the shadow loses it significance and the reality stays. God's shadow is just a resemblance and though it is real it is not the express image of what it points to. No, the shadow is an illusion which the light of God dispels. I do not see God's nature and divinity as a shadow.

God bless you,

SeventhDay

Sorry I was not clear , seeing we are the shadow /image of God likeness    whom carries the Light of God in us , is what I meant    and   do you think God is male and female   as He created us  ''man''  in His image    ?   
So does God have a female side as well as male side ? ,  this can only happen to produce  godly offspring  correct ?   
  Just curious , many dont ever speak of   these things 

 


Gen 1 ;27 26 Then Elohim said, "Let us make humans in our image, in our likeness. Let them rule the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the domestic animals all over the earth, and all the animals that crawl on the earth."

27 So Elohim created humans in his image.
    In the image of Elohim he created them.
        He created them male and female.

28 Elohim blessed them and said, "Be fertile, increase in number, fill the earth, and be its master. Rule the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, and all the animals that crawl on the earth."

[SevanthDay]

Hello rosered:

Sorry I was not clear , seeing we are the shadow /image of God likeness    whom carries the Light of God in us , is what I meant    and   do you think God is male and female   as He created us  "man"  in His image    ?   
So does God have a female side as well as male side ? ,  this can only happen to produce  godly offspring  correct ?   
  Just curious , many dont ever speak of   these things


Now. we are going into some deep areas.

God is spirit therefore he has no gender in a physical  bodily sense but in a soulical sense. God is spirit and God is a spiritual soul.  God is justice, and mercy, and is agape and phileo love and you probably can give some more female or male characteristics.

God created humanity as one whole with male and female mental characteristics but not understanding Biology I am not sure about physical characteristic. Also, he was a unity I believe as regarding soul and spirit that were in harmony with God and man himself, however, man was not a unity in regard to having a family or human members. God knew that Adam needed a help mate thus God caused Adam to go into a deep sleep and he made a separation from his side (ribs) and created a female.

Now, there are a couple of things here to consider because that we have a division or separation from which could imply a broken unity not that there was anything wrong with God causing a separation but it was necessary with this separation that there would be a disunity, Please do not ask for scriptures in this regard because I do not know where to look for them.

The separation involved at least two parts and they are co-related. There was a (separation) division between soul and spirit and in that division there was a division between Adam and Eve. There a a couple of things that we can gather from this. Our first account of Eve is that she showed a carnal disposition but Adam had it as well. God tested Adam (humanity which includes Eve) and they broke God's first law or commandment. I believe that was fully part of God's design when he made a separation in Adam.

Now, here is the good news! When God had made the separation from Man and created Eve what did man say? "And the man said, This now at last is bone from my bones, and flesh from my flesh. For this shall be called Woman, because this has been taken out of man. Therefore, a man shall leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave to his wife and they shall become one flesh." Gen 2:23,24 

It is in this statement that Adam made which has great spiritual significance and represent the joining together the spiritual members of the body of Christ into one new man in the second Adam, Jesus Christ. This is most profound but this happens in three stages:: 1) body of the bridegroom, 2) body of the spiritual bride) and 3) body of the spiritual children of the bride

I like to summarize by stating that God himself is a divine unity of persons who serve one and other and are of one accord with different functions but sharing attributes and the head of that unity is the Father. God is creating humanity first on a physical level as a unity with a Father, Mother and offspring and they become a unity by being joined to a spiritual unity joined to the body of Christ as a result of Jesus atonement. When we die we are resurrected in spiritual bodies ( that seed in is believers now)as risen members with the risen Jesus Christ. the first born of creation. There is no male or female in (no gender) in Christ Jesus.

God bless you,

SeventhDay

[rosered]

  Thank you   Seventh  Day ,

   I just read  that  where Jesus says they are  as the angels , no male or female  in the resurrection

Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.


Mar 12:25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.


  angels  are  ministering    spirits  of flames of Fire ,

The Holy Spirit and Fire baptism

Psa 104:4 Who makes his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:


Hbr 1:7 And of the angels he saith, Who makes his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

[SevanthDay]

Hello rosered:

I just read  that  where Jesus says they are  as the angels , no male or female  in the resurrection

Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

Mar 12:25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.

  angels  are  ministering    spirits  of flames of Fire ,

The Holy Spirit and Fire baptism

Psa 104:4 Who makes his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:

Hbr 1:7 And of the angels he saith, Who makes his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.


Excellent! Also: "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus" Galatians 3:28

God bless you,

SeventhDay

[rosered]

 
  God bless you Seventh Day , 
   good  verse   as well !!
and the way Jesus is described in Daniel and Revelation   is amazing !Dan 7:9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment [was] white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne [was like] the fiery flame, [and] his wheels [as] burning fire.
Then I lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a certain man clothed in linen, whose loins [were] girded with fine gold of Uphaz:
Dan 10:6 His body also [was] like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude.

Rev 1:14 His head and [his] hairs [were] white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes [were] as a flame of fire;

 
Rev 2:18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet [are] like fine brass;

[SevanthDay]

Hello speaktruth:

I would like to examine Genesis 1:26 and Gen: 1:27:

Gen 1:26  And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Gen 1:27  So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Do you notice the word make in Gen 1:26 and the word create in Gen 1:27 I suggest there is a long period from Gen 1:26 and Gen 1:27 and it is prophetic and suggest a change. Here is the Greek rendering for both words and the suggested meanings. Please look at them and tell me what is happening with God's creation between these two words. If you have difficulty I will help you.

H6213  Make - ‛âśâh

aw-saw'

A primitive root; to do or make, in the broadest sense and widest application: - accomplish, advance, appoint, apt, be at, become, bear, bestow, bring forth, bruise, be busy, X certainly, have the charge of, commit, deal (with), deck, + displease, do, (ready) dress (-ed), (put in) execute (-ion), exercise, fashion, + feast, [fight-] ing man, + finish, fit, fly, follow, fulfil, furnish, gather, get, go about, govern, grant, great, + hinder, hold ([a feast]), X indeed, + be industrious, + journey, keep, labour, maintain, make, be meet, observe, be occupied, offer, + officer, pare, bring (come) to pass, perform, practise, prepare, procure, provide, put, requite, X sacrifice, serve, set, shew, X sin, spend, X surely, take, X thoroughly, trim, X very, + vex, be [warr-] ior, work (-man), yield, use.

H1254 - create
בּרא
bârâ'
baw-raw'
A primitive root; (absolutely) to create; (qualified) to cut down (a wood), select, feed (as formative processes): - choose, create (creator), cut down, dispatch, do, make (fat).

See if you can make some sort of statement of what God means with regard to creating Adam in his image with these two words. Also notice the difference between in our image after our likeness in Gen:1:26 and  in his own image, in the image of God. Consider there is an image in the sense of likeness and image in the sense of express image!

God bless you,

SeventhDay

[SevanthDay]

Hello rosered:

  good  verse   as well !!
and the way Jesus is described in Daniel and Revelation   is amazing !Dan 7:9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment [was] white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne [was like] the fiery flame, [and] his wheels [as] burning fire.
Then I lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a certain man clothed in linen, whose loins [were] girded with fine gold of Uphaz:
Dan 10:6 His body also [was] like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude.

Rev 1:14 His head and [his] hairs [were] white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes [were] as a flame of fire;


Rev 2:18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his etyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet [are] like fine brass;


These scriptures indicate that some in the the body of Christ have already began to come to maturity through going through fire sanctification and that Christ is a growing and expanding body:

Rev 1:13  And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
Rev 1:14  His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
Rev 1:15  And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

Notice it says one like unto the Son of man which indicates the second Adam, Jesus Christ as head of a body of spiritual believers coming to maturity in the Christ body.

Feet represent the feet body of Christ that have been refined as of fire.

Sound of many waters represent a spiritual people.

All these symbols have a spiritual meaning but I need other scriptures to interpret these symbols.

God bless you,

SeventhDay

[rosered]

 

  wow ,      :iagree:   we are in agreement , its a rare bird these days   lol   Yes, this I how I see this too !!  the Holy Spirit and fire baptism  !
  who can dwell in the  fire   but those being made righteous  in the Sight of God our Lord  Jesus Christ and the Holy angels ,  God is a consuming fire !      I love Isaiah 33      helped me   greatly to see 

exciting  :HeartThrob:
  Thank you and God bless SeventhDay !!


10 Yahweh says, "Now I will arise.
    Now I will get up.
    Now I will be lifted up."11 You will be pregnant with hay.
    You will give birth to straw.
    Your breath will be a fire which will burn you up.

12 People will be cremated.
    They will be set on fire like dry thornbushes.

13 Hear what I have done, you people who are far away!
    Acknowledge my might, you people who are near!

14 The sinners in Zion are terrified.
    Trembling seizes the ungodly.
    Can any of us live through a fire that destroys?
    Can any of us live through a fire that burns forever?
15 The person who does what is right and speaks the truth will live.
    He rejects getting rich by extortion and refuses to take bribes.
        He refuses to listen to those who are plotting murders.
        He doesn't look for evil things to do.
16 This person will live on high.
    His stronghold will be a fortress made of rock.
        He will have plenty of food
            and a dependable supply of water.

17 Your eyes will see how handsome the king is.    You will see a land that stretches into the distance.
18 Your mind will be thinking of the terrors in the past.
    Where are the scribes?
    Where are the tax collectors?
    Where are those who counted the towers?
19 You will no longer see those savage people,
    those people with an unrecognizable language,
        with a foreign language that you can't understand.
20 Look at Zion, the city of our festivals.
    Your eyes will see Jerusalem as a peaceful place.
    It is a tent that can't be moved.
        Its tent pegs will never be pulled out,
            and none of its ropes will be broken.
21 Yahweh will be our mighty defender
    in a place surrounded by wide rivers and streams.
        Ships with oars won't travel on them.
        Stately ships won't sail on them.
22 Yahweh is our Shophet.
    Yahweh is our lawgiver.
    Yahweh is our Melek.
    Yahweh is our savior.

[SevanthDay]

Hello rosered:

I am glad that we argree and may we always be sensitive to the spirit of conviction when we make an error and correct it as soon as possible with God's help.

Wow! Isaiah Chapter 33 has some great scriptures! May God help us to understand them so that we may glorify him more and more.

Thank you very much for your input! Please continue.

God bless you,

SeventhDay

[rosered]

Hello rosered:

I am glad that we argree and may we always be sensitive to the spirit of conviction when we make an error and correct it as soon as possible with God's help.

Wow! Isaiah Chapter 33 has some great scriptures! May God help us to understand them so that we may glorify him more and more.

Thank you very much for your input! Please continue.

God bless you,

SeventhDay

Yes ,  you are right    all  done  in honor  for the glory of God   with Love  regarding one another  :friendstu:   Thanks for that


  A  friend of mine years ago noticed  the word distinctions in " made" and " created" and "formed "  .
  Just as you have   !   
This is a wonderful study  so far   , I apogize for being all over the place  :footmouth:

   I am sure   that im still   very immature , hoping to grow up in truth and grace

[SevanthDay]

Hello rosered:

Yes ,  you are right    all  done  in honor  for the glory of God   with Love  regarding one another  :friendstu:   Thanks for that


  A  friend of mine years ago noticed  the word distinctions in " made" and " created" and "formed "  .
  Just as you have   !   
This is a wonderful study  so far   , I apogize for being all over the place  :footmouth:


That's okay! I am getting to know you and what God is showing you.

Please continue!

God bless you,

SeventhDay

[rosered]

 

  Hi   SeventhDay ,
I dont know what happened to Speaktruths post  ,  maybe they withdrawed   from this discussion
  but  I  am not sure   between the created   man   to accomplish and choose   and made   man as gods /spirits   to rule the earth ?

  just  not sure and would like your help     

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Do you notice the word make in Gen 1:26 and the word create in Gen 1:27 I suggest there is a long period from Gen 1:26 and Gen 1:27 and it is prophetic and suggest a change. Here is the Greek rendering for both words and the suggested meanings. Please look at them and tell me what is happening with God's creation between these two words. If you have difficulty I will help you.

[eaglesway]

Even if this is true it would be at best conjecture. God man man in His image, male and female He created them, is IMO a Hebrew literary device frequently used throughout the scriptures.

I baked me a cake, I made it a layer cake, I created a real treat.

Whatever one imagines between made and created is unverifiable by the scriptures.......

[SevanthDay]

Hello eaglesway:

Even if this is true it would be at best conjecture. God man man in His image, male and female He created them, is IMO a Hebrew literary device frequently used throughout the scriptures.

I baked me a cake, I made it a layer cake, I created a real treat.

Whatever one imagines between made and created is unverifiable by the scriptures.......

I appreciate your opinion but because that they are two different Greek words with some significant difference in meaning depending on context then that has to be taken into consideration. 

Thank you for your input.

God bless you,

SeventhDay

[SevanthDay]

Hello rosered:

 

  Hi   SeventhDay ,
I dont know what happened to Speaktruths post  ,  maybe they withdrawed   from this discussion
  but  I  am not sure   between the created   man   to accomplish and choose   and made   man as gods /spirits   to rule the earth ?

  just  not sure and would like your help     

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Do you notice the word make in Gen 1:26 and the word create in Gen 1:27 I suggest there is a long period from Gen 1:26 and Gen 1:27 and it is prophetic and suggest a change. Here is the Greek rendering for both words and the suggested meanings. Please look at them and tell me what is happening with God's creation between these two words. If you have difficulty I will help you.

If you compare make in the sense of form or fashion in Genesis 1:26 it has a similarity to fashion or form in Genesis 2:27 but it is a different Greek rendering H3335 יצר yâtsar:

probably identical with H3334 (through the squeezing into shape); (compare H3331); to mould into a form; especially as a potter; figuratively to determine (that is, form a resolution): -  X earthen, fashion, form, frame, make (-r), potter, purpose.

However, create ( bârâ') has an entirely different meaning from made or formed from these another two Greek renderings:

baw-raw'
A primitive root; (absolutely) to create; (qualified) to cut down (a wood), select, feed (as formative processes): - choose, create (creator), cut down, dispatch, do, make (fat).

Now, with this word create I see it has a disassemble aspect to it such as a dismantling of the old creation in Adam and a transforming of the new Adam in Christ Jesus. Thus, the old Adam is a shadow copy image that is being replaced with the express image that is through the atoning work of Jesus Chris. God in creating Adam had a two part design  or two designs one that was temporal, of the earth that would serve as a purpose as a shadow copy or even a scaffold for the new creation to come later. It is through the atoning work of Jesus that the old  Adam nature is buried through Christ death and being replaced with the new Adamic creation in Jesus resurrection. Jesus said that he was the resurrection and the life which means that the old Adam is dead but the new Adam has the life of Christ as a new creation. God is making Adam with two different designs!

God bless you,

SeventhDay

[rosered]

  Why Thank you SeventhDay ,
   
You explained this very well ,   that I can comprehend    it !
  Like the old heavens and earth  folding up like a scroll  and  fading away
  and Behold I make all things new
  The tearing down and building up

  reminded me of Jeremiah 1   the      the  planting   and up rooting   , the Increase is  from God  , any tree my Father has not planted shall be rooted up



Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 


Jer 1:5   Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, [and] I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations. 


Jer 1:6   Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! behold, I cannot speak: for I [am] a child. 


Jer 1:7   But the LORD said unto me, Say not, I [am] a child: for thou shalt go to all that I shall send thee, and whatsoever I command thee thou shalt speak. 


Jer 1:8   Be not afraid of their faces: for I [am] with thee to deliver thee, saith the LORD. 


Jer 1:9 ¶ Then the LORD put forth his hand, and touched my mouth. And the LORD said unto me, Behold, I have put my words in thy mouth. 


Jer 1:10 ¶ See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build, and to plant. 

  I thought this was a good example   of what your  saying in   the Scriptures

  God bless  you and yours , Rose