Are All Universalists "Old Folk?"

[BirdSong]

I have yet to meet (online or otherwise), a "younger" Universalist. Are they all "over the hill" like me (dialing in on the big 50). Does it take a minimum of "40 years" to understand the depth and magnitude of God's love and come out of religious Babylon? Maybe that is why God's testing period is always 40 days/years. Do you think these are perhaps the necessary steps we have to take before God will remove the blinders?

Silly question, I know. :blah: But I'm very curious. Does anyone know of any UR teens or twenty-somethings?

[lomarah]

We are few and far between but we are out there hahaha! I just turned 29, I've been a believer in "UR" for about 4 or 5 years now. Misszoolander on here just turned 22. And as far as I can tell she lives more of a Christ like life than many of the "old folk" I know.

But in truth there is no age in the Spirit. :)
:HeartThrob:

[lomarah]

My closest friends are in their 50's. I just laugh because it looks ridiculous to most people. My hubby even teases me hahaha.

[redhotmagma]

I've noticed that. I'm 35 the next closest in age is 60 in our ecclesia. The only people I've met in person are older, but I know a few online who are under 40.

[BirdSong]

We are few and far between but we are out there hahaha! I just turned 29, I've been a believer in "UR" for about 4 or 5 years now. Misszoolander on here just turned 22. And as far as I can tell she lives more of a Christ like life than many of the "old folk" I know.

But in truth there is no age in the Spirit. :)
:HeartThrob:

Wow! God opened your eyes at 24. Amen!  :dsunny:  What led to your revelation at such a young age?

[BirdSong]

Misszoolander on here just turned 22. And as far as I can tell she lives more of a Christ like life than many of the "old folk" I know.

I have two young male friends (23 and 27) that are atheists, who are so loving and genuine you would think they WERE Christ. One (Josh), who is Pete's good friend, was brought up by rigid fundamentalist, turn-or-burn parents, and he NEVER believed AT ALL even in his 'forced' church going youth. Young people love my hubby for some reason and are drawn to him (he doesn't understand why). Pete always says about Josh; "If and when I become as 'Christ-like' as that atheist kid, it will be a time of great rejoicing in my heart."

[jabcat]

That's great, sound like nice people.  Unfortunately, good works and good character don't save us.  2 things will happen, IMO;  1)  they will one day be drawn by the Holy Spirit to the blood and cross of Christ, and they'll be spiritually reborn by being given the faith to believe on Jesus as their Savior.    2)  all of us spiritually reborn folks who by grace and the free gift have already had our time of visitation by the Holy Spirit, our divine visitation as it were and , will someday finally grow up into the maturity of the new man, and act like the Christ that's within us through the new birth.  I believe many of us will remain in varying levels of immaturity until mortality puts on immortality.   :2c:     By grace are you saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God.  Amen.

[jabcat]

Sorry, as far as your OP, I'm not sure - but it's a good question, and it does seem like most given the revelation of UR are "older" folks.  Hmmm, that bears some investigation...should be some numbers/estimates out there somewhere.   :thumbsup:


P.S.  as far as misszoolander, I noticed her maturity right off - and then especially for a "youngster".  It seems some are just given sort of "big jump" or "head start" and don't take so long to rot mature.   :laugh:    Reminds me of Timothy, and Paul telling him to not let others "despise" him for his youth.  Told him to "declare and teach".   :dsunny:

[marie glen]

Jabcat you didn't say your age! :hiya: (You don't have to!) Such fun to read people's age! and hear a little about them.. I've been meaning to go around and visit everyone's profile but geesh, I just run out of time! I'll be 58 in a month or so.. and I feel kind of juvenile sometimes.. tho only in a good way! (not a delinquent, not yet anyway..)

I've only ever known one other UR person before coming to tentmaker.. his name was Paul (age 20's?) years ago.. we met in groups over web tv.. I remember him saying he liked Tentmaker! which for some reason I never forgot the website name (highly unusual!!)

35, 29, 50, 22, 60... i know a poster here who's 74.. i'm 58 but I think been believing UR since my 30's.. (never believed there was a 'hell')

:gsmile:

[jabcat]

 :thumbsup:

54 - old enough to know better - about a lot of things    :punish:

[misszoolander]

Lol nice to see I get a mention guys  :laughing7: :thumbsup:

I believe I could be one of the youngest on this forum? Not sure. I have to say I came into this forum spiritually immature, the more I read, discuss and talk about God with the good people here the more I'm grow.  :dsunny:

[jabcat]

We had a 17 or 18 year old.  One of our ex-members who was about 60 and been "in UR" and on the boards for years started singing the praises of recreationally smoking marijuana, how good it was, and that he'd "written spiritual songs" while under the influence.  The teenager got on board with that, thought it was pretty cool.  When that thread and those beliefs got challenged and the thread finally shut down, soon after the teenager left.   :bsad:

Just ONE of several/many reasons for the tighter moderation that some don't understand, but through history and experience, have become necessary - don't need harm to come to "the little ones" if possible - in any way. 

[misszoolander]

Really??!

Wow. Obviously the fruits of that discussion were bad. I've heard many people try and justify smoking pot by saying that Jesus used cannabis oil to anoint people.

Crazy  :wacko2:

[jabcat]

Yeah, well, our carnal mind can try to justify just about anything and everything, can't it?  To my shame, I know.    Off topic, and very briefly;  I believe substances that "take over" the body/mind in any way, should be used STRICTLY medicinally, in good conscience, and as placed before the Lord for approval or restriction.  I think of the verse in the OT that says "strong drink for the dying (pain)".

My mother in law was dying of extremely painful cancer, and we all felt very good that as a strong Christian lady, it was very compassionate and called for to give her whatever it took to ease her discomfort.  Very specific circumstance.   :2c: 

[jabcat]

I looked for some age demographics re: UR, really found nothing. 

Here's what I believe, and it may be wrong.  I believe most who see UR are middle-age to older.

On the other hand, I believe many (most?) young people coming up don't really believe in eternal hell.  However - I'm afraid they also don't really believe Jesus will save all - IMO, it's just more of an unbelief in general.  However - maybe God will use this as part of His plan to teach us all?  Maybe they won't have so much to "unlearn".    :dunno2:

[CHB]

We had a 17 or 18 year old.  One of our ex-members who was about 60 and been "in UR" and on the boards for years started singing the praises of recreationally smoking marijuana, how good it was, and that he'd "written spiritual songs" while under the influence.  The teenager got on board with that, thought it was pretty cool.  When that thread and those beliefs got challenged and the thread finally shut down, soon after the teenager left.   :bsad:

Just ONE of several/many reasons for the tighter moderation that some don't understand, but through history and experience, have become necessary - don't need harm to come to "the little ones" if possible - in any way.

Wow!!! Jab, do I know this person who was 60? Seems like I kind of remember this discussion but not the people.

(2Tim. 1:7) For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, AND OF A SOUND MIND. Peter also talks about STIRING UP OUR PURE MINDS.

When you are drunk, or on drugs, how can you have a sound mind or a pure mind? You don't even use your mind, at least the right way.

All I got to say is, you all are really OLD.  :rolllol: :laughhand: :bowing:
Just kidding.  Love you all though.  :HeartThrob: I always figured being older makes one wiser and smarter.

Not going to tell my age but I am glad to know I am not the oldest on here. I guess you could say I am among the average age group on here.

CHB 

[shawn]

I'm 39 and have believed UR for several years now.

[lomarah]

We are few and far between but we are out there hahaha! I just turned 29, I've been a believer in "UR" for about 4 or 5 years now. Misszoolander on here just turned 22. And as far as I can tell she lives more of a Christ like life than many of the "old folk" I know.

But in truth there is no age in the Spirit. :)
:HeartThrob:

Wow! God opened your eyes at 24. Amen!  :dsunny:  What led to your revelation at such a young age?

I just could not wrap my mind around an eternal hell where people were abandoned forever. I knew my Father, I had met Him and it did not add up. After my daughter was born I knew there was no way I would ever abandon her, no matter what kinds of awful sins she might commit in her life. I prayed and asked God to show me if hell was real and if it was to show me how it was good because I just couldn't see it. He showed me! It started off with a link on the side of my email. It was a question, it asked "Is hell real?" I clicked on it and was completely blown away by what I found. A few days later I went to the library and picked up three books. None of them had any hint of teaching universal salvation on the covers but when I got them home and read them they all either hinted at or openly taught UR. I was like ok God I get it!! Lol. I did a lot of research and found tentmaker and the rest is history as they say. :)

[BirdSong]

Yeah, well, our carnal mind can try to justify just about anything and everything, can't it?  To my shame, I know.    Off topic, and very briefly;  I believe substances that "take over" the body/mind in any way, should be used STRICTLY medicinally, in good conscience, and as placed before the Lord for approval or restriction.  I think of the verse in the OT that says "strong drink for the dying (pain)".

My mother in law was dying of extremely painful cancer, and we all felt very good that as a strong Christian lady, it was very compassionate and called for to give her whatever it took to ease her discomfort.  Very specific circumstance.   :2c:

Yeah, other than justifiable circumstances (as you mentioned), I think that it is very important to not have any external 'artificial' influence on the mind. Not because of judgmental reasons, but because if you are under the influence, you can't tell if the Holy Spirit is leading you, or if it is your own subconscious mind interfering with your consciousness and spiritual reality. But young people (and old) have to discover this for themselves AFTER God calls them (John 6:44). Unless God is involved, nothing you can say OR DO will change someone's mind if their mind is made up.

[marie glen]

 :thumbsup: Lamorah, what an awesome story :))

...All the stories! ...and Misszoolander so young! Some others too!


Jabcat, I think your right some/many nonbelievers don't have as much to relearn!!

[Lazarus Short]

I'm 63, became a Christian at about 27, got into UR in my mid-40's.  I don't feel old yet, except that I tire more easily than when young.

[mplsfitter539]

Awesome thread  :banana:
I just turned 50 and only came into UR about a year ago. I am finally experiencing true freedom from the lies of the world. I seek to become a Berean searching all of the scriptures all of the time, digging ever deeper into the Word. Proving the gospel of universal restoration daily.

[anna274]

I'll be celebrating 75 years of believing God's Glorious Plan to bring ALL to be with Him for all eternity.  I'll be 79 on April 22 -- so it seems I am the oldest member of this forum and the youngest (4 1/2 years old) in terms of when God revealed Himself as a God of love.

[sheila]

when I read the title of this thread..the account of the woman caught in the act of adultery come to mind

..where He said...'whoever of you is without sin,cast the first stone" and they all..starting with the oldest

...one by one..left off...the judging of the woman...til finally no-one was left of her accusers

   makes me thing of babylon/christendom..our exodus from her...the beast that turns on her.....

   and the Christ-mind attitude we should possess to the people in her,still..

[Molly]

I'm 63, became a Christian at about 27, got into UR in my mid-40's.  I don't feel old yet, except that I tire more easily than when young.

I'll be celebrating 75 years of believing God's Glorious Plan to bring ALL to be with Him for all eternity.  I'll be 79 on April 22 -- so it seems I am the oldest member of this forum and the youngest (4 1/2 years old) in terms of when God revealed Himself as a God of love.

12 The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree: he shall grow like a cedar in Lebanon.

13 Those that be planted in the house of the Lord shall flourish in the courts of our God.

14 They shall still bring forth fruit in old age; they shall be fat and flourishing;

15 To shew that the Lord is upright: he is my rock, and there is no unrighteousness in him.

--Psalm 92