Hello, All!

[LedByTheNose]

I came to your site through a search on the Rephaim - the discussion here was intriguing and I began nosing around. :)

I prefer UR because the other view is incompatible with "God is Love".  It would be difficult if I were flitting about Heaven and knew others were burning for eternity.  Yuck.

Then again, I think of the 'unpardonable sin' and don't know where that would fit into UR.  Perhaps there is a Solution on another plane of existence? Dunno.

Anyway, it's a happy happenstance to have found your site!

Heart huggers,

Pamela

[Lazarus Short]

Hey, welcome!  :friendstu:

[lomarah]

Welcome Pamela!!  :friendstu:

[reFORMer]

One of the best things I learned about the "unforgivable" sin is 1.) to compare a governor who, because of political pressures, forgives somebody, setting them free from jail, though he really doesn't like then or believe they deserve pardoning 2.) to a father that won't let his precious daughter get by with staying out way later than curfew, punishing rather than forgiving her because of his love for her.

Another point is, where do people get the idea even any sin is infinite?  (Not from the Bible!)  This would have to be so if sin could only be dealt with by forgiveness.  There is restitution, for instance.

[mplsfitter539]

One of the best things I learned about the "unforgivable" sin is 1.) to compare a governor who, because of political pressures, forgives somebody, setting them free from jail, though he really doesn't like then or believe they deserve pardoning 2.) to a father that won't let his precious daughter get by with staying out way later than curfew, punishing rather than forgiving her because of his love for her.

Another point is, where do people get the idea even any sin is infinite?  (Not from the Bible!)  This would have to be so if sin could only be dealt with by forgiveness.  There is restitution, for instance.

I like this analogy of unforgivable sin. So the Governor pardons without actual forgiveness but Christ forgives?

[Lazarus Short]

I came to your site through a search on the Rephaim - the discussion here was intriguing and I began nosing around. :)

Pamela, you might want (if you haven't) to check out this book on the subject of the Rephaim:

From the Ashes of Angels by Andrew Collins (subtitled "The Forbidden Legacy of a Fallen Race").

[LedByTheNose]

Thanks, Everyone, for the welcome!

The "unforgiveable sin", for me, would require one to *Know*, beyond doubt, the Holy Spirit in the first place.  To have made *conscious contact* with the Holy Spirit and then willfully choosing the opposing team.  Kinda like if St. Paul had 'turned back' and began telling secrets of the Kingdom or began undermining new believers.

I'm not saying that there still isn't some way that Christ will have a work-a-round so that ALL will be saved ... I just can't imagine what it might be.

I have only recently been bitten by the Nephilim/Rephaim/Repaim bug so I haven't read very much as of yet.  Thank you, Lazarus, for offering a good place to start!

Warm regards in Christ,

Pamela

[reFORMer]

One of the best things I learned about the "unforgivable" sin is 1.) to compare a governor who, because of political pressures, forgives somebody, setting them free from jail, though he really doesn't like then or believe they deserve pardoning 2.) to a father that won't let his precious daughter get by with staying out way later than curfew, punishing rather than forgiving her because of his love for her.

Another point is, where do people get the idea even any sin is infinite?  (Not from the Bible!)  This would have to be so if sin could only be dealt with by forgiveness.  There is restitution, for instance.

I like this analogy of unforgivable sin. So the Governor pardons without actual forgiveness but Christ forgives?

Perhaps you'll notice I attempted to clarify what I had written by using Arabic numerals 1 and 2. 

The effects of Christ's forgiveness are hindered unless we're believing it...if we're being dealt with by God through forgiveness.  I do think the state of our inner being is what He looks at as He molds us.  What do we really need?  He knows.  Sin is not either automatically forgiven or held against us for ever.  Cartoon Christianity gets so much outa whack!