Damnationist Says Aionios Must Mean Eternal

[aaronclark1989]

I saw this video where a damnationist tries to debunk universal salvation and I left a comment about how the word eternal has been mistranslated from the greek word aionios which really means lasting for an age. And this damnationist who thinks they have done their homework on the greek word aionios tries to make the following point.

"So I take it from your comment that you believe that all men will be saved. Since that is the case why bother wasting your time with me after all anything I say cant stop someone from being saved, right? I urge you to go back and relook at the word aionios is it the same word that is used to describe eternal salvation. Now if there is no eternal hell then there is no eternal salvation and the same greek word is used when saying God is eternal. If I take the logic of universalist such as yourself then there is no eternal salvation because there is no eternal God. You cant take this word and use it as you like. You either use it all the way or you use it in the context that it is intended. The problem with the Universalist is that they take what they want and toss out what they dont like. You know as Satan did when he rebelled against God."

[Colleen]

I got a similar response when I posted on a fb thread to someone wondering what will happen to her loved one who died not believing. She was comforted. Don't know what happened when she read his reply.  :sigh:

[sheila]

His sword is a two-edged sword..and people have judged before the appointed time....

  there is an eternal damnation part and an eternal salvation part. Sin in flesh has been condemned/damned

eternally by God..that is why He sent His Son to save[the eternal salvation part] all mankind.

   those doomed to destruction...or the cursed side of the coin,need to be correctly discerned

from the Blessing side of the same coin[the judgement of God]

   sin is an evil spirit...of which the sons of God were sent down to partake of this good/evil exercize

   the enmity between the two contrasting seeds has been on open display for a spectacle to behold.

[ded2daworld]

GOD Who ALONE is ETERNAL.

Eternal means "without beginning and without end"
God alone fits that description. Even when we mortals put on immortality we shall not be eternal
since we had a beginning as did the rest of creation. The universe, the angels, nothing else but God is eternal.
He is the first, he is the last.

[sheila]

right Ded2..and since He alone is eternal..when He decrees to destroy sin and 'remember' sin no more

" for it is not part of the eternal one.."it remains in it's destruction for as long as God lives.

[CHB]

GOD Who ALONE is ETERNAL.

Eternal means "without beginning and without end"
God alone fits that description. Even when we mortals put on immortality we shall not be eternal
since we had a beginning as did the rest of creation. The universe, the angels, nothing else but God is eternal.
He is the first, he is the last.

Amen ded, my thoughts exactly.

CHB

[Lloyd]

On this webpage, http://www.saviourofall.org/Writings/aion.html, Dean Hough says as follows.

Of all widely used, modern attempts to define these terms [aion and aionios], I have found the concluding definition given in THE VOCABULARY OF THE GREEK TESTAMENT (edited by James Hope Moulton and George Milligan) most helpful. Concerning aionios we read, "In general, the word depicts that of which the horizon is not in view . . ." (p.16). If the horizon of the extermination spoken of by Paul in 2 Thessalonians 1:9 is simply not in view, then we can see that what Paul says in 1 Corinthians 15:22 can truly occur. The same all who are dying in Adam, which includes some who incur eonian extermination, can indeed eventually be vivified in Christ. The Bible, in fact, does not speak of judgment and condemnation, death and destruction, hades and Gehenna, or any of these serious consequences of sin, as unending. It may refer to them as not having the end in view, but none of these fearful works of God can keep Him from achieving His will (1Tim.2:4); reconciling all through the blood of Christ's cross (Col.1:20, and becoming All in all (1 Cor.15:28).

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So if aionios means a time whose end is not in view, it seems it would apply both to that which is eternal as well as that which occurs for a limited time.

It seems that the plain statement in Revelation and maybe in Corinthians or somewhere that Satan, death, hell etc will end should be the final word on hell etc.