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Molly

That Good News is brought to the poor!

That captives are released!

That the blind can see!

That the oppressed are set free!

That the brokenhearted are healed!


O, Lord, bring your desire to us!

Cause it to come into being!

Taffy



GOOD THREAD guys..yehaaaaaaaa!

Psa 51:18 Do good in thy good pleasure unto Zion: build thou the walls of Jerusalem. 

Luk 12:32 Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom. 

Eph 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, 

Eph 1:9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: 

Phl 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of [his] good pleasure. 

2Th 1:11 Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of [this] calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of [his] goodness, and the work of faith with power: 

Molly

Bring it through us, Lord, in the same manner as your son, Lord Jesus brought it--heaven on earth!

Molly

Forgive me, Lord, for I thought your desire was only for me.  But, your desire is to be expressed through me for the whole world!


John 3:17
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.


2 Timothy 1:9
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,


Redlettervoice




Molly, YOU are setting this forum on fire. ha

While I was reading about that word "favor" where Jesus spoke it, I was also thinking
of something I read last week, or quoted, about the "set time to favor her."

Molly

8And there were in the same country shepherds[pastors] abiding in the field[camping out in a yard open to the wind, by implication a mansion], keeping watch[guarding] over their flock by night.

9And, lo, the angel[messenger] of the Lord came upon them, and the glory[doxa] of the Lord shone round about[illuminate, halo of light] them: and they were sore afraid.

10And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold[see!], I bring you good tidings [euaggelizō, good news]
of great joy, which shall be to all people.


11For unto you[to, with, or by you] is born[brought forth] this day[now!] in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

12And this shall be a sign[miracle, token, wonder] unto you; Ye shall find [perceive] the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying[to lie outstretched, be appointed]  in a manger [a crib for fodder].

13And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,

14Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

--Luke 2

Molly

17That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;

18And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.


--Genesis 22


Redlettervoice




Molly Dolly, do you have anything on the "swaddling clothes?"

Thank you for those last two posts there............

Molly

"wrapped in swaddling clothes"
G4683

sparganoō
spar-gan-o'-o
From σπάργανον sparganon (a strip; from a derivative of the base of G4682 meaning to strap or wrap with strips); to swathe (an infant after the Oriental custom): - wrap in swaddling clothes.


G4682

sparassō
spar-as'-so
Prolongation from σπαίρω spairō̄ (to gasp; apparently strengthened from G4685 through the idea of spasmodic contraction); to mangle, that is, convulse with epilepsy: - rend, tear.


sparasso is a stronger version of this:

G4685

spaō
spah'-o
A primary verb; to draw: - draw (out).

Molly

John 12:32
And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.


[if]"I be lifted up"

G5312

hupsoō
hoop-so'-o
From G5311; to elevate (literally or figuratively): - exalt, lift up.


"the earth"

G1093

gē
ghay
Contracted from a primary word; soil; by extension a region, or the solid part or the whole of the terrene globe (including the occupants in each application): - country, earth (-ly), ground, land, world.



1 The LORD had said to Abram, "Leave your country, your people and your father's household and go to the land I will show you. --12


"the land"

H776

'erets
eh'-rets
From an unused root probably meaning to be firm; the earth (at large, or partitively a land): -  X common, country, earth, field, ground, land, X nations, way, + wilderness, world.



Matthew 13:44
Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.






Taffy

Hey Molly your ON FIRE girll way to go KIDDO


The JOY in our heart IS HIM  sis....

HE is OUR JOY.....

Matthew 13:44
Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.

Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? 

he he

recal, the MORNING STAR THAT RISESin OUR Hearts...AWESOME SIS

Psa 30:5 For his anger [endureth but] a moment; in his favour [is] life: weeping may endure for a night, but joy [cometh] in the morning

Psa 32:11 Be glad in the LORD, and rejoice, ye righteous: and shout for joy, all [ye that are] upright in heart.  ..YEHAA makes our WAYS straight


Psa 35:27 Let them shout for joy, and be glad, that favour my righteous cause: yea, let them say continually, Let the LORD be magnified, which hath pleasure in the prosperity of his servant.

GEE..the HIDDEN MAN of the HEART


Psa 48:2 Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth, [is] mount Zion, [on] the sides of the north, the city of the great King. 

Christ WHO is THE JOY of our SALVATION

Psa 51:12 Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me [with thy] free spirit

Psa 132:9 Let thy priests be clothed with righteousness; and let thy saints shout for joy.

JOY is far MORE than an EMOTION

Luk 6:23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward [is] great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets. 


THERES "JOY"in the messengers OF HIM..talks of the HIDDEN man NOW revealed


Luk 15:10 Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.

gee.seems SOME who BELIEVED not OF JOY WHO IS CHRIST IN US

Luk 24:41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat? 

YEHAAA....

is not that WE RETURN ( new) UNLESS we HAVE GREAT JOY

Luk 24:52 And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:



MAN it just flows on..these scrips are JUST FEW

m 5:11 And not only [so], but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement

AWESOME how he hides HIMSELF me thinks

Blessings
taffy


Molly

8 The Amalekites came and attacked the Israelites at Rephidim. 9 Moses said to Joshua, "Choose some of our men and go out to fight the Amalekites. Tomorrow I will stand on top of the hill with the staff of God in my hands."

10 So Joshua fought the Amalekites as Moses had ordered, and Moses, Aaron and Hur went to the top of the hill. 11 As long as Moses held up his hands, the Israelites were winning, but whenever he lowered his hands, the Amalekites were winning. 12 When Moses' hands grew tired, they took a stone and put it under him and he sat on it. Aaron and Hur held his hands up—one on one side, one on the other—so that his hands remained steady till sunset. 13 So Joshua overcame the Amalekite army with the sword.





15 Moses built an altar and called it The LORD is my Banner. 16 He said, "For hands were lifted up to the throne of the LORD.

--Exodus 17


"the LORD is my banner"
H3071
yehôvâh nissîy
yeh-ho-vaw' nis-see'
From H3068 and H5251 with pronominal suffix.; Jehovah (is) my banner; Jehovah-Nissi, a symbolical name of an altar in the Desert: - Jehovah-nissi.



Molly

2And the LORD said unto him, What is that in thine hand? And he said, A rod.

3And he said, Cast it on the ground. And he cast it on the ground, and it became a serpent; and Moses fled from before it.

4And the LORD said unto Moses, Put forth thine hand, and take it by the tail. And he put forth his hand, and caught it, and it became a rod in his hand:

5That they may believe that the LORD God of their fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath appeared unto thee. --Exodus 4




John 8:28
Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.


"in thine hand" :bgdance:
H3027
yâd
yawd
A primitive word; a hand (the open one (indicating power, means, direction, etc.), in distinction from H3709, the closed one); used (as noun, adverb, etc.) in a great variety of applications, both literally and figuratively, both proximate and remote: -  (+ be) able, X about, + armholes, at, axletree, because of, beside, border, X bounty, + broad, [broken-] handed, X by, charge, coast, + consecrate, + creditor, custody, debt, dominion, X enough, + fellowship, force, X from, hand [-staves, -y work], X he, himself, X in, labour, + large, ledge, [left-] handed, means, X mine, ministry, near, X of, X order, ordinance, X our, parts, pain, power, X presumptuously, service, side, sore, state, stay, draw with strength, stroke, + swear, terror, X thee, X by them, X them-selves, X thine own, X thou, through, X throwing, + thumb, times, X to, X under, X us, X wait on, [way-] side, where, + wide, X with (him, me, you), work, + yield, X your-selves.


Molly

You see?  In the same hand, the power can be used for good or for evil, depending on whether you cast it to the ground or lift it up....

Molly

#64
27Then the governor's soldiers took Jesus into the Praetorium and gathered the whole company of soldiers around him. 28They stripped him and put a scarlet robe on him, 29and then twisted together a crown of thorns and set it on his head. They put a staff in his right hand and knelt in front of him and mocked him. "Hail, king of the Jews!" they said. 30They spit on him, and took the staff and struck him on the head again and again. 31After they had mocked him, they took off the robe and put his own clothes on him. Then they led him away to crucify him.

--Matthew 27



Luke 22:53
When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.


"hands"
G5495

cheir
khire
Perhaps from the base of G5494 in the sense of its congener the base of G5490 (through the idea of hollowness for grasping); the hand (literally or figuratively [power]; especially [by Hebraism] a means or instrument): - hand.


Molly

#65
Which maybe brings us back to swaddling clothes? (binding)



28But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.

29Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.

30He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

--Matthew 12



"with" [me]

G3326
μετάmeta
met-ah'
A primary preposition (often used adverbially); properly denoting accompaniment; "amid" (local or causal); modified variously according to the case (genitive case association, or accusative case succession) with which it is joined; occupying an intermediate position between G575 or G1537 and G1519 or G4314; less intimate than G1722, and less close than G4862): - after (-ward),X that he again, against, among, X and, + follow, hence, hereafter, in, of, (up-) on, + our, X and setting, since, (un-) to, + together, when, with (+ -out). Often used in composition, in substantially the same relations of participation or proximity, and transfer or sequence.



"against" [me]

κατά
kata
kat-ah'
A primary particle; (preposition) down (in place or time), in varied relations (according to the case [genitive, dative or accusative] with which it is joined): - about, according as (to), after, against, (when they were) X alone, among, and, X apart, (even, like) as (concerning, pertaining to, touching), X aside, at, before, beyond, by, to the charge of, [charita-] bly, concerning, + covered, [dai-] ly, down, every, (+ far more) exceeding, X more excellent, for, from . . . to, godly, in (-asmuch, divers, every, -to, respect of), . . . by, after the manner of, + by any means, beyond (out of) measure, X mightily, more, X natural, of (up-) on (X part), out (of every), over against, (+ your) X own, + particularly, so, through (-oughout, -oughout every), thus, (un-) to (-gether, -ward), X uttermost, where (-by), with. In composition it retains many of these applications, and frequently denotes opposition, distribution or intensity.

Redlettervoice

#66

OK, I am going to just talk here.  Let him who hath an "ear" hear.  I loved the post by
Taffy on the JOY.  The MORNING STARS sang for JOY in the beginning and there is JOY
when He is born!  Ye shall go out with JOY, and be led forth with PEACE.  And there was
one Simon waiting on the consolation of Israel, and it was "revealed" to him, that he
should not go til he had seen the Lord's Christ!  So he went out with PEACE and JOY!
For he "saw" the "birth" of the Christ!  Well, I didn't know what I would write, just felt
to write.  JOY in the beginning and JOY in the End!  The "swaddling clothes" of JOY!
No, I never heard that!  But there is a change of "garments" .........for the exchange of
natures.  He takes ours, and gives us HIS!  And we turn flips in the heavens. ha
Joshua stood before Him clothed not in swaddling clothes, but needing a change!  And
satan stood there to oppose the exchange, nevertheless, the Lord said, Put on this
man a "fair mitre" a NEW crown, and put on this man a CHANGE of garments, and he
was given that, that he might "walk among" them as part of the great company that
publisheth salvation!  So you see, MOLLY DOLLY, YOU "did" tell me something about
swaddling clothes.  I tell you, the Lord is in our midst here. HOLY HOLY HOLY!

Oh, and MOLLY, that was good and new to me about the ground and looking up with the
word sword.........that Moses was told to do.  Good word.

Redlettervoice



MOLLY Dolly!

I noticed something else. I was trying to take a morning bath and I could hear YOU saying
"Moses STOOD on a stone!" They PUT a STONE "under" him!  What a foundation!  Poor Moses
was weary, but a NEW foundation, which is NOT a new, but an old commandment revived,
only this time, I bet Moses knew what it was!   The Rock that will not move: LOVE! reminds me of JOHN! The Rock that "wars" in every generation against everything that is NOT love!


Here are the scriptures:

11 And it came to pass, when Moses held up his hand, that Israel prevailed: and when he let down his hand, Amalek prevailed. 12 But Moses' hands were heavy; and they took a stone, and put it under him, and he sat thereon; and Aaron and Hur stayed up his hands, the one on the one side, and the other on the other side; and his hands were steady until the going down of the sun. 13 And Joshua discomfited Amalek and his people with the edge of the sword. 14 And the LORD said unto Moses, Write this for a memorial in a book, and rehearse it in the ears of Joshua: for I will utterly put out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven. 15 And Moses built an altar, and called the name of it Jehovahnissi: F51 16 For he said, Because the LORD hath sworn that the LORD will have war with Amalek from generation to generation.


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FOOTNOTES:
F49: Massah: that is, Temptation
F50: Joshua: called Jesus
F51: Jehovahnissi: that is, The LORD my banner

 
The King James Version (Authorized)



  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Noticed that part about the "stone" and thought of what Jesus said: "That thou art
Peter, and UPON THIS ROCK, I shall build my church, and the gates of hell, shall NOT
prevail against it! 

Now we know that Jesus is the ROCK.......and the Stone.........so when it says, MOSES
was to "stand" on a STONE, I wondered if this was connected.

The progression of revelation.........Jesus told Peter, He would "give" him the KEYS
of the "kingdom of heaven" and whatever he "bound" and "loosed" on earth, would
also be "bound and loosed" in that realm of heaven. 

I noticed from those scriptures up there that it describes a "banner."  I remember]
studying back some time ago about the "banner" being the "ensign" or the "flag"
or "standard" all the same thing, and how that it was this "banner" that was over
the heads of the Israelites as they formed the "cross" symbolically on the mount at
which "flag" or "ensign" God promised to cause the Assyrian to fall.  Because he, the
Assyrian,  would
"see" the flag and know that God was with them!

I tell you this word is running ............thank you!




Molly

#68
8 The Amalekites came and attacked the Israelites at Rephidim. 9 Moses said to Joshua, "Choose some of our men and go out to fight the Amalekites. Tomorrow I will stand on top of the hill with the staff of God in my hands."

10 So Joshua fought the Amalekites as Moses had ordered, and Moses, Aaron and Hur went to the top of the hill. 11 As long as Moses held up his hands, the Israelites were winning, but whenever he lowered his hands, the Amalekites were winning. 12 When Moses' hands grew tired, they took a stone and put it under him and he sat on it. Aaron and Hur held his hands up—one on one side, one on the other—so that his hands remained steady till sunset. 13 So Joshua overcame the Amalekite army with the sword.

--Exodus 17


Moses is like Peter.  He always thinks he can do more than he can do.  "I will stand on top of the hill..."  Isn't that like Peter walking on water?  No, Moses, it's not you lol.  Finally, a tired Moses has to sit on the rock.  Sit down, Moses, stand aside, let someone else do it. lol  Look who's fighting the battle--Joshua!




Swaddling clothes are what you wrap a new baby in so he can't move.  The new babe in Luke 2 is completely passive.  He's wrapped in swaddling clothes preventing his movement, he's lying outstretched, appointed (not of his own works but of God?), he's lying in a crib which holds food, implying a passive feeding.  The new babe is rendered passive.

"lying" in a manger

G2749

keimai
ki'-mahee
Middle voice of a primary verb; to lie outstretched (literally or figuratively): - be (appointed, laid up, made, set), lay, lie. Compare G5087.

Let's look at another place 'keimai' is used.



Mat 5:14
Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set [keimai] on an hill cannot be hid.



Mat 28:6
He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.
[keimai]

So the idea is that the babe was put there by someone else.  We see this word, keimai, used at the beginning and the end of Jesus' life.  Someone else has the power over us (our bodies) at these times.

This word is also related to tithemi which is a huge word, so I'm not going into that one now.  That would take a lot of time.  But that word, tithemi,  creates an explosion of information.

Now I'm seeing a progression:  Moses first placed in the cleft of the rock by God (a swaddled babe), and now here he is on top of the hill sitting on the rock with his priests holding up his hands, and  he will stand next to the rock and strike the rock for water.  He is never able to speak to the rock to have it bring forth water, that will be reserved to us.  Because we will be, not hidden in, not sitting on, but standing on the rock.


Redlettervoice



As I was reading your reply there, Molly, I remembered that "I" had said "STOOD" on the Rock, but
as you wrote or quoted, it actually reads "sat" on the 'Rock' so I re-thunk that. ha Then at the end
of your post, YOU used the word "stand" ...........how together our minds are running. I would love
to read what you'd share when you "do" feel to on that word you mentioned.  Isn't this word exciting?
It's like a giant puzzel that never gets dull, never gets finished, always new every morning, the
depths never get to an end.........I am forever "addicted!" ha


Cardinal

 :cloud9: Amen, RLV, me too......I'm in "swaddling mode" right now......enjoying being fed......carry on, LOL.......Blessings to all.....
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

Molly

#71
As an aside, he's showing me so much all at once that I am forgetting it faster than I can seize it.  You folks are really blessing me.

That babe in a manger has a double meaning.  The idea of the babe being fed passively, lying in a feeding trough,  yes.  But, look, the Lord Jesus is in this place because there was no room in the inn.

The manger is a feeding place for animals.  Throw the slop in the crib and they blindly come and feed. 

What is Jesus doing there?.



John 1:11
He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him.




1Jesus spoke to them again in parables, saying: 2"The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son. 3He sent his servants to those who had been invited to the banquet to tell them to come, but they refused to come.

4"Then he sent some more servants and said, 'Tell those who have been invited that I have prepared my dinner: My oxen and fattened cattle have been butchered, and everything is ready. Come to the wedding banquet.'

5"But they paid no attention and went off—one to his field, another to his business. 6The rest seized his servants, mistreated them and killed them. 7The king was enraged. He sent his army and destroyed those murderers and burned their city.

8"Then he said to his servants, 'The wedding banquet is ready, but those I invited did not deserve to come. 9Go to the street corners and invite to the banquet anyone you find.' 10So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, both good and bad, and the wedding hall was filled with guests.
--Matthew 22


Molly

#72
11He came unto his own, and his own received him not. --John 1




"received"
G3880

paralambanō
par-al-am-ban'-o
From G3844 and G2983; to receive near, that is, associate with oneself (in any familiar or intimate act or relation); by analogy to assume an office; figuratively to learn: - receive, take (unto, with).


Paralambano is made up of two words:

G3844

para
par-ah'
A primary preposition; properly near, that is, (with genitive case) from beside (literally or figuratively), (with dative case) at (or in) the vicinity of (objectively or subjectively), (with accusative case) to the proximity with (local [especially beyond or opposed to] or causal [on account of]). In compounds it retains the same variety of application: - above, against, among, at, before, by, contrary to, X friend, from, + give [such things as they], + that [she] had, X his, in, more than, nigh unto, (out) of, past, save, side . . . by, in the sight of, than, [there-] fore, with. In compounds it retains the same variety of application.


G2983

lambanō
lam-ban'-o
A prolonged form of a primary verb, which is used only as an alternate in certain tenses; to take (in very many applications, literally and figuratively [probably objective or active, to get hold of; whereas G1209 is rather subjective or passive, to have offered to one; while G138 is more violent, to seize or remove]): - accept, + be amazed, assay, attain, bring, X when I call, catch, come on (X unto), + forget, have, hold, obtain, receive (X after), take (away, up).



So--Paralambano--to receive something that is very near to you---like a baby takes the milk offered or grabs hold of the rattle shaken in front of him.

It's just a little more active than completely passive, because the thing you are taking hold of is being offered and it's right there--you don't have to work too hard to get it.  Mostly all you have to do is accept it, as babies will accept milk.


12But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
--John 1



Matthew 4:17
From that time on Jesus began to preach, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near."



And what are we babes receiving?  "HIM"  !!!    :bgdance:



Molly

There is no sign given to the evil generation, except one:

Deuteronomy 1:35
"Not a man of this evil generation shall see the good land I swore to give your forefathers,


Matthew 12:39
But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:



But to the shepherds abiding in the field, the angel of the Lord gives  a sign:



12And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.

13And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,

14Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.
--Luke 2

arcticmonster2003

#74
Jack Hennessey had introduced me to the writings of George Warnock, this one spoke to me, and is beautiful. Thought I would post it here, as it does address things to come.
for more of George Warnock's writings, here is a good place:
http://www.georgewarnock.com/

quote George Warnock

The Weakness and Foolishness of God - From The Hyssop that Springeth Out of the Wall

"But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God" (1 Corinthians 1:23, 24).

So He is to them that believe. But to those who believe not, God seems to do some very foolish things, and to manifest a lot of weakness for One who is supposed to have made a whole Universe. However, it is in these very things that God is pleased to reveal His glory and His wisdom: to baffle the wisdom of the wise, and to bring to nought the counsels of men. Therefore, in the midst of the apostasy of modern day Christianity, and the hypocrisy and artificiality of modern day religion, we who know somewhat of God's ways can rejoice in the fact that it is just like God, in times like these, to rend the heavens and come down in power and great glory... and yet in ways that will seem strange and foolish in the eyes of the world. We are confident that the darkness and the gloom about us will once again become the fitting background for the display of the gems of His glory. Some good Christian people are trying to set the stage for God to work, but God always has to bypass these efforts, for He has prepared the stage upon which He will reveal His sons who are moving in Harmony with His will. For it is consistent with God's character and way, and with the Jealousy of His Glory, that the greater the work He will perform in the earth--the greater will be the measure of weakness and foolishness that He will cause an unbelieving world to behold.