Why not rejoice over condemned family and friends?

[Captain.Theophilus]

I enjoy asking believers in ET this

Clearly if hell is the best location for fallen humanity, we should be happy not sad that most of us are going there.

Because God is completely just and also completely good, everything he does must be just and good. Because of that if he sends people to hell it means he did something good, and we should be rejoicing instead of trying to avoid it  :2c: imo

[Lazarus Short]

So how do the ET-believers react to that question?  :Chinscratch:

[Captain.Theophilus]

So far, not too well. In fact I've found it's a lot better just to use Bible verses and not bother with making assertions, since argumentation doesn't really help the cause. For example:

Revelation 5:13 And every creature which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, I heard saying: "Blessing and honor and glory and power Be to Him who sits on the throne, And to the Lamb, forever and ever!" about an hour ago          Acts 3:19-21 19 Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, 20 and that He may send Jesus Christ, who was preached to you before, 21 whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began. about an hour ago          Psalm 22:27-29 27 All the ends of the world Shall remember and turn to the LORD, And all the families of the nations Shall worship before You. 28 For the kingdom is the LORD's, And He rules over the nations. 29 All the prosperous of the earth Shall eat and worship; All those who go down to the dust Shall bow before Him, Even he who cannot keep himself alive. about an hour ago          1 Corinthians 15:28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all. about an hour ago          Matthew 5:43-44 43 You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbour and hate your enemy.' 44 But I say to you,* love your enemies*, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you. about an hour ago          Isaiah 26:9 With my soul I have desired You in the night, Yes, by my spirit within me I will seek You early; For when Your judgments are in the earth, The inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness. about an hour ago          Lamentations 3:31-33 31 For the Lord will not cast off forever. 32 Though He causes grief, Yet He will show compassion According to the multitude of His mercies. 33 For He does not afflict willingly, nor grieve the children of men. about an hour ago          Romans 11:32 For God has committed them all to disobedience, that He might have mercy on all. about an hour ago          Jeremiah 3:12 Go and proclaim these words toward the north, and say: 'Return, backsliding Israel,' says the LORD; 'I will not cause My anger to fall on you. For I am merciful,' says the LORD; 'I will not remain angry forever'. about an hour ago          Romans 5:18-19 18 Therefore, as through one man's offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man's righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life. 19 For as by one man's disobedience many (all) were made sinners, so also by one Man's obedience many (all) will be made righteous. about an hour ago          John 12:32-33 (NIV) 32 But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself. about an hour ago          Luke 19:10 For the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was lost." about an hour ago          1 Timothy 4:9-11 9 This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance. 10 For to this end we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe. 11 These things command and teach. about an hour ago          1 Timothy 2:3-6 (KJV) 3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4 Who will have (thelo) all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. about an hour ago          Ephesians 1:9-10 9 having made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His good pleasure which He purposed in Himself, 10 that in the dispensation of the fullness of the times He might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven and which are on earth - in Him. about an hour ago          1 Corinthians 15:22-23 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. 23 But each one in his own order. about an hour ago          1 John 4:14 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son as Savior of the world (kosmos). about an hour ago          Luke 23:34 Then Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do". about an hour ago          2 Corinthians 5:14-15 14 For the love of Christ compels us, because we judge thus: that if One died for all, then all died; and 15 He died for all, that those who live should live no longer for themselves, but for Him who died for them and rose again. about an hour ago          Romans 6:10 For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. about an hour ago          1 John 2:2 (NIV) He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. about an hour ago          John 1:29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, "Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!" about an hour ago          Revelation 21:1-6 1 Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. 2 Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride ...

[marie glen]

Hey! I'm off to copy n paste all those verses.. I already spied a couple I hadn't considered.. (Thanks!) :smile:

..and I think you're right about verses rather than trying to rationalize/debate which doesn't seem to go that far..  :thumbsup:

P.S/edit - if I thought (any of) my loved ones were in danger of being lost (or worse! :eek: ) I think I would be most miserable!

[englishman]

I really enjoyed this thread, I have seen alot of these scriptures scattered but it is a real blessing to be able to paste them.

I thought back to my days preaching annilation and many accepted this view for they had allready accepted when you die you are no more forever, then when I said there is a resurrection of the righteous and unrighteous that some will get a second chance, the answer was to that well i'll wait and see.

The victorious gospel does not ask us if we want to give up on life forever, it says that Gods love is here forever and he will not allow you to just opt out on life, he did not create you simply for nothing and his love is that protection of a father, I believe it is far more complelling for a response than any false gospel, the ET just puts the majority of unbelievers off God being a loving father alltogether.
 

[rosered]

 :HeartThrob:  Great thread !
  great thoughts englishman  :thumbsup: