harvests in list format

[redhotmagma]

Anyone have all the info about the harvests/festivals in a list or table format?  There's a little here, a little there, its a big hunt.

Thanks

[WhiteWings]

Red,

What do you mean by 'list format'?
Flow chart, timeline or similar?
I do have stuff about harvests but it's all in article format.

[lomarah]

George Warnock has a book on the feast of tabernacles that summarizes each of the feasts nice and neatly. The link to it has been posted on here a couple of times, just search George Warnock and you should find it no problem. (I'd do it for you but I'm on my phone again lol.)

[WhiteWings]

Here is the link: http://www.georgewarnock.com/feast-main.html

Read and verify because, imo, it's full of errors.

[lomarah]

What? Tony I thought you loved that book! ;P
:D

Thanks for posting the link.

[redhotmagma]

Thanks Lo

WW I'm looking for lists or tables.  Like what each ceremony was.  What were all of the events in the bible that happened on those dates. 

[WhiteWings]

I don't have such a list but we could compile one....

[redhotmagma]

I don't have such a list but we could compile one....

sounds like a good idea, who's in?

[WhiteWings]

I'm (obviously)
I'll start with a calendar in the next post.
I'll update that post with things we figure out.

[Molly]

http://www.agapebiblestudy.com/charts/Seven%20Sacred%20Feasts%20of%20the%20Old%20Covenant.htm

[WhiteWings]

Gregorian dates are 2012/2013 dates. They vary each year because the Jews use a very different calendar.
Originally 12x29.5=354days plus leap months.
Current calculated calendar in unScriptual and slowly drifts from the true calendar. Not really important for what you asked. Just mentioning it in case people start using it for detailed calculations.....
On the Gregorian calendar festivals seem to last one day longer. That's because the sunset/sunset reckoning.

Jewish name(s): Rosh Hashanah
Christian name(s): Jewish New Year. Feast of Trumpets
Gregorian date:16-18 September
Jewish date: Tishri 1 and 2
Meaning/facts/events/ceremonies:
I think this festival is a Babylonian festival. It's not commanded by God.
- Likely Jesus and Adam were born/created on Tishri 1
- No man knows the hour


Jewish name(s): Yom Kippur
Christian name(s):Day of Atonement
Gregorian date: September 25–26
Jewish date:Tishri 10
Meaning/facts/events/ceremonies:
Most holy Jewish day of the year.
The Jubilee year was officially announced on that day. (Lev 25:9)


Jewish name(s): Sukkot
Christian name(s): Feast of booths
Gregorian date:
Jewish date: Tishrei 15-21
Meaning/facts/events/ceremonies:
People ate in a hut made of (willow) twigs for 7 days.
Last of the 7 days is called Day of great salvation.
(Tishri 1-21 are judgement days)
http://www.lchaimweekly.org/cgi-bin/calendar?holiday=tishrei7010201

Jewish name(s): Simchat Torah
Christian name(s): Rejoicing the Torah
Gregorian date: Oktober 8-9
Jewish date:
Meaning/facts/events/ceremonies:
Luke 4:15-21 Jesus offically starts His ministry. Or at least announces it offically.

Jewish name(s): Hanukkah/Dedication
Christian name(s): Festival of Lights
Gregorian date: December 8-16
Jewish date: Kislev 25-...
Meaning/facts/events/ceremonies:
8 day festival.
Possible conception of Jesus.
http://www.colelchabad.org/Chanukah.bp?gclid=CJD_29iN6rECFUdvfAodmzgAWg

Jewish name(s): Pesha
Christian name(s): Easter/Passover
Gregorian date:
Jewish date: Nissan 15
Meaning/facts/events/ceremonies:
Jesus' first night in the tomb.
Jews left Egypt.

Jewish name(s):
Christian name(s): First Fruits
Gregorian date:
Jewish date: Nisan 17th
Meaning/facts/events/ceremonies:
Presenting the Omer.
Wave Sheaf.
Jesus resurrected.

Jewish name(s): Shavout
Christian name(s): Pentecost
Gregorian date: 7 weeks after Fiirst Fruits
Jewish date: Sivan 6
Meaning/facts/events/ceremonies:
Jews recieved the Torah.
Holy flames.

[WhiteWings]

Sighting of the very first cresent moon signals the start of the month. The cresent can be calculated with split second accuracy but that doesn't mean it can be actually sighted by the naked eye (due to weather conditions).
Sighting is the only Scriptual way to determine the start of the month. A added 'problem' is that the period of darkness between the last old-moon-cresent and the first new-moon-cresent varies eah month.

No man knows the hour when the moon will be sighted.
No comment needed on the blue part I guess.

[WhiteWings]

Adam was created on Tishri 1. - Rosh Hasannah - Jewish new year.
Jesus is also called Adam so that adds something extra.
http://www.chabad.org/holidays/JewishNewYear/template_cdo/aid/4762/jewish/What-is-Rosh-Hashanah.htm

[WhiteWings]

(Lev 25:9) Then, on the tenth day of the seventh month, on Yom-Kippur, you are to sound a blast on the shofar; you are to sound the shofar all through your land;

Many translations write trumpet instead of shofar. The difference isn't just sematics. A shofar/ramshorn is connected to redemption.
And marriage. Also the time Jesus returns for His bride (imo)

[redhotmagma]

Molly thats exactly what I was looking for.

WW I knew you'd bring the info that nobody else has.

Teamwork is dreamwork  :boydance: :ty:

[WhiteWings]

Red, do you have a specific reason for starting this thread?
Or just general interest?
I ask because it's a huge and very wide subject that ties in with so many things it could fill many pages.
Does anybody knows what the water drawing ceremony is about (in connection to Jesus)?

[WhiteWings]

Simchat Torah - Rejoicing the Torah.

(Luke 4:14) And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.
(Luke 4:15) And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.
(Luke 4:16) And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
(Luke 4:17) And there was delivered to him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
(Luke 4:18) The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he has sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
(Luke 4:19) To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
(Luke 4:20) And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
(Luke 4:21) And he began to say to them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.

The red part is misleading. It's not custom for the public to read. One exception is the day of Simchat Torah on which regular people were allowed to read a few verses aloud.
This custom/bit of info pinpoints the exact month and day of that event/set of verses. All books were read in a certain order. I can look up more info but the cycle is called something like trimenial cycle. That narrows down teh possible year.
This is my hobby horse... :-)
Verse 1-13 is about satan testing Jesus 40 days in the wilderness. No exact date line (in Luke) but it seems to indicate baptism, wilderderness and the reading the verse have taken place in a short timespan.

[WhiteWings]

BTW v 18-19 is a reference to:
(Isa 61:1) The Spirit of the Lord GOD is on me; because the LORD has anointed me to preach good tidings to the meek; he has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
(Isa 61:2) To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;

[redhotmagma]

Red, do you have a specific reason for starting this thread?
Or just general interest?
I ask because it's a huge and very wide subject that ties in with so many things it could fill many pages.
Does anybody knows what the water drawing ceremony is about (in connection to Jesus)?

Its part of a big project I'm doing right now.  Putting together the 3 papers I posted here

carnal nature and the mark of the beast
lucifer adam
covering cast over all people

actually reworking them into one plus an overview of the feasts, temple symbolism, natural vs. spiritual

I just like to collect all the data before I write on it.

[WhiteWings]

Hanukah - Festival of lights - Feast of dedication

No Scriptual support; just counting.... I think the conception of Jesus was during this festival.


In Hebrew, the word "hanukkah" means "dedication." The name reminds us that this holiday commemorates the re-dedication of the holy Temple in Jerusalem following the Jewish victory over the Syrian-Greeks in 165 B.C.E.

My body is My Temple. Conception is dedication of that Temple?????

[WhiteWings]

Passover. Not much to say about this event because I think it's safe to say it's a very well know event.
It's not really about offical festivals so I just mention a few things briefly. More if you want more...

First I must say I do not believe in a Friday crucifixion and Sunday resurrection. I believe in wednesday crucifixion and a Saturday resurrection. The days aren't of much importance here but the number of days are.
When the Jews left Egypt they set watches. (Watch for YHWH). On that same day the Jews set a watch at Jesus' tomb
At the Jewish wave sheaf/Omer Jesus was rewrapped in His burial cloth. At crucifixion day Jesus was quickly put in a linnen cloth. We see, hidden in the Greek text, He was wrapped in linnen straps (strips?).
During that wrapping Jesus was repeatingly lifted and moved. --> Waved.
Jesus resurrected the 17th day of the the month of Nisan.

Genesis 8:4  and on the seventeenth day of the seventh month the ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat.
Nisan = 7th civil month and first religious month as commnaded in:
Genesis 8:4  and on the seventeenth day of the seventh month the ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat.

Maybe an arkeologist sees a connection here?

[WhiteWings]

actually reworking them into one plus an overview of the feasts, temple symbolism, natural vs. spiritual

I just like to collect all the data before I write on it.

Are you writing a book?
Or 'just' a post to smartify us? :-)

[redhotmagma]

I have a feeling its going to turn into a book.  Its so hard to get the points across without making it long.

I'll attach a spreadsheet of many of the words that are being used.  (I don't know how to save it in pdf where its in a landscape view, the way I saved it the definitions are on the second page)

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[WhiteWings]

Shavuot - Pentecost

50 days after resurrection.
God gave the Torah on this day.
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/609663/jewish/What-Is-Shavuot.htm

Torah descended(?)  ----  HS/tongues of fire decended.

Peronal note/thought.
Torah = word of God
Jesus = The Word (of God)
Pentecost flames = Jesus starting to live inside (instead of HS)
Just a thought....

[WhiteWings]

I have a feeling its going to turn into a book.  Its so hard to get the points across without making it long.

I'm sure it can be condesed into half. That's usally the case. But the risk of doing so is that only the readers who already have a firm graps on patterns will understand.

Maybe start the book with a very condensed version with references to page numbers that give general explanation followed by a very in depth one.....?

I'll attach a spreadsheet of many of the words that are being used.  (I don't know how to save it in pdf where its in a landscape view, the way I saved it the definitions are on the second page)

First set the printing area in Excel.
Define a page. Simplest would be using A3 as a page size.