Binding and loosing

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Deena

June 28, 2012, 04:51:42 PM
Can someone explain this to me? "Whatever you bind/loose on earth will be bound/loosed in heaven".

WhiteWings

#1
June 28, 2012, 05:06:21 PM
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...
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Deena

#2
June 28, 2012, 06:18:50 PM
Thanks WW. So this verse is to Peter and not relevant to us personally? It has nothing to do with binding and loosing spirits as it is believed in pentecostal circles?

WhiteWings

#3
June 28, 2012, 06:54:24 PM Last Edit: June 28, 2012, 08:36:10 PM by WhiteWings
First of all my opionion is just one out of  a million....

It was certainly for Peter. But ONLY for Peter??? I think the answer is yes, but I won't be suprised if someone posts a deeper/extra interpretation...


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Seat of Moses

Personally I think any teaching that can't be found in the OT is doubtful at best.
Each synagoge had a "Seat of Moses". It was a place of authority from which Rabbi's preached and made decisions.
For example God commanded not to work on Sabbath; but didn't define 'work'.
So people came to Moses and asked: Is this, this and this work?
God gave Moses the authority to loose/allow or bind/forbid certain things.
Later other persons got that same authority.

Imo, God gave Peter the same authority as He gave Moses. Interpretations of the Law.

http://www.cedarpark.org/docs/books/paper/binding.pdf

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1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...
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WhiteWings

#4
June 28, 2012, 07:14:43 PM Last Edit: July 02, 2012, 07:50:43 PM by WhiteWings
So  lets assume God hates woolen garments in church.  He even sees it as a sin.
But Peter taught wool is fine. In that case God will view wearing wool not as a sin.

That's my understanding.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...
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jugghead

#5
July 01, 2012, 04:02:49 PM
Hey WW, I haven't noticed before, but have you or someone else coined a new word "thaught" a combination of "thought" and "taught"?
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WhiteWings

#6
July 02, 2012, 07:48:51 PM
Crappy spelling combined with lousy typing. That's all :-)
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...
>>> My sites <<<    -    >>> Free Bible study material <<<

lomarah

#7
July 02, 2012, 09:53:46 PM
That was totally your chance to say yeah, I totally coined a new word... ROFLOL
;P

anna274

#8
July 02, 2012, 10:02:36 PM
Quote from: lomarah on July 02, 2012, 09:53:46 PM
That was totally your chance to say yeah, I totally coined a new word... ROFLOL
;P



Yes, you are such a wordsmith... you might want to get a copyright on "thaught"...

WhiteWings

#9
July 02, 2012, 10:04:45 PM
Check the copyright notice on OED :-)
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...
>>> My sites <<<    -    >>> Free Bible study material <<<

lomarah

#10
July 02, 2012, 10:05:12 PM
Quote from: anna274 on July 02, 2012, 10:02:36 PM
Quote from: lomarah on July 02, 2012, 09:53:46 PM
That was totally your chance to say yeah, I totally coined a new word... ROFLOL
;P



Yes, you are such a wordsmith... you might want to get a copyright on "thaught"...

And other such gems. ;)

WhiteWings

#11
July 02, 2012, 10:08:50 PM
Phunny.

See that shining coin :-)
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...
>>> My sites <<<    -    >>> Free Bible study material <<<

WhiteWings

#12
July 02, 2012, 10:15:10 PM
BTW "thaught" is correct spelling according to Oxford :-)
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...
>>> My sites <<<    -    >>> Free Bible study material <<<

lomarah

#13
July 02, 2012, 10:16:33 PM
Is that the Oxford dictionary from 1776?  :btongue:

WhiteWings

#14
July 02, 2012, 10:21:27 PM
thaught

variant of thought, rower's bench.


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1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...
>>> My sites <<<    -    >>> Free Bible study material <<<

lomarah

#15
July 02, 2012, 10:33:33 PM
Another word lesson from WW.  :bigGrin:

anna274

#16
July 02, 2012, 10:43:08 PM
Quote from: lomarah on July 02, 2012, 10:33:33 PM
Another word lesson from WW.  :bigGrin:

Yes, a very thaughtful and phun-filled lesson...

lomarah

#17
July 02, 2012, 10:46:57 PM
Quote from: anna274 on July 02, 2012, 10:43:08 PM
Quote from: lomarah on July 02, 2012, 10:33:33 PM
Another word lesson from WW.  :bigGrin:

Yes, a very thaughtful and phun-filled lesson...

Ahaha anna I enjoy you! :D

Thank God for this forum lol! I get to fellowship with other believers and talk to ADULTS (I run a home daycare lol) and even get a laugh in from time to time haha. Keeps me sane, this forum!

WhiteWings

#18
July 02, 2012, 11:54:58 PM Last Edit: July 02, 2012, 11:59:24 PM by WhiteWings
Quote from: anna274 on July 02, 2012, 10:43:08 PM
Quote from: lomarah on July 02, 2012, 10:33:33 PM
Another word lesson from WW.  :bigGrin:

Yes, a very thaughtful and phun-filled lesson...
Posting is a rewording activity
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...
>>> My sites <<<    -    >>> Free Bible study material <<<

WhiteWings

#19
July 03, 2012, 12:11:41 AM
Quote from: lomarah on July 02, 2012, 09:53:46 PM
That was totally your chance to say yeah, I totally coined a new word... ROFLOL
;P
Thou shalt not bear false witness.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...
>>> My sites <<<    -    >>> Free Bible study material <<<

lomarah

#20
July 03, 2012, 12:18:43 AM
Quote from: WhiteWings on July 03, 2012, 12:11:41 AM
Quote from: lomarah on July 02, 2012, 09:53:46 PM
That was totally your chance to say yeah, I totally coined a new word... ROFLOL
;P
Thou shalt not bear false witness.

Hence the winking tongue smilie.

WhiteWings

#21
July 03, 2012, 12:21:30 AM Last Edit: July 03, 2012, 01:25:50 PM by WhiteWings
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1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...
>>> My sites <<<    -    >>> Free Bible study material <<<

redhotmagma

#22
July 05, 2012, 04:46:11 PM
Back to the ot... I was meditating on binding and loosing and this thread the other day when Adam naming the animals came to mind. God brought each animal to him and whatever adam called them that was there name (/nature?).

WhiteWings

#23
July 05, 2012, 04:49:06 PM
Adam was binding the names.
God did not reject those names.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...
>>> My sites <<<    -    >>> Free Bible study material <<<

redhotmagma

#24
July 05, 2012, 04:55:06 PM
God had already given them some nature because it says from all the beasts and birds he brought them to be named
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