Why I hate religion but love Jesus

[shawn]

Terrific video I came across today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IAhDGYlpqY&sns=fb

[jabcat]

Yes, David noted that as well.  Pretty good.  I'd like to know what his ultimate reconciliation views are too.  I'm seeing what I'd guess are pretty mainstream folks posting it on facebook..interesting, as he does touch on some fairly "non-mainstream" views. 

[shawn]

Yes, David noted that as well.  Pretty good.  I'd like to know what his ultimate reconciliation views are too.  I'm seeing what I'd guess are pretty mainstream folks posting it on facebook..interesting, as he does touch on some fairly "non-mainstream" views.

Well I know he does a parody of Rob Bells, Love Wins.  I thought he was going to blast UR but instead focused the discussion on Christ and justice satisfied on the Cross.  That is worth a look as well.

[Beloved Servant]

Amazing!
I was going to post this too!
God is good!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDLCN8GwBHE&feature=related

[eaglesway]

Both videos were a joy to watch.

I will look forward to the one where he explains that God's justice is not satisfied by multitudes tormented endlessly in "hell". What can I say? I'm just too demanding I guess. :o)

[Lonely Summer]

eaglesway, I had the same reaction. When I see "God wins" instead of "Love Wins", what I really feel I am seeing is "our lust  for bloody, endless torment  wins".

[eaglesway]

Yes exactly,and if (I don't kno, but if) this was some kind of response to Love Wins what was left unsaid was more important than what was said. What was said was beautiful and there was a lot of truth in it, but if, after all that said, you think God's justice is going to be relentlessly expressed in an ENDLESS PUNISHMENT, which by very nature (being without redemptive value) can be regarded as no more than vengeful torture- for huge masses of people....all that beauty has now become a cover for unrighteousness. So, I hope that is not the case. But....... I guess time will tell.

[Beloved Servant]

temperance.

[eaglesway]

temperance.

Amen

[Lonely Summer]

Yes exactly,and if (I don't kno, but if) this was some kind of response to Love Wins what was left unsaid was more important than what was said. What was said was beautiful and there was a lot of truth in it, but if, after all that said, you think God's justice is going to be relentlessly expressed in an ENDLESS PUNISHMENT, which by very nature (being without redemptive value) can be regarded as no more than vengeful torture- for huge masses of people....all that beauty has now become a cover for unrighteousness. So, I hope that is not the case. But....... I guess time will tell.

Very nicely stated, thank you.

[jabcat]

Sorry you feel that way.  Maybe there will be some better answers yet to come.

[eaglesway]

Sorry you feel that way.  Maybe there will be some better answers yet to come.

My feelings are held in reserve in lieu of more complete information :o). I am only speaking of my own considerations. We so frequently jump on board things that look wonderful, then turn out to be something less than we had hoped- but I still hope! I have come to feel that the salvation of all IS THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST. That's why when I look under the hood, it is one of the two or three FIRST things I look for before I buy.

[Molly]

Terrific video I came across today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IAhDGYlpqY&sns=fb

I was initially put off by the title, but that was a beautiful video.