Study Bibles

[Beloved Servant]

      :icon_joker:"professionals" :icon_jokercolor:

To use a term from Cardinal:

ROFLOL 

[Molly]

Professionals are people who study the Bible for a living.

I do admit to some out there knowing more than I know.

[Beloved Servant]

JESUS AMAZED them AT TWELVE YEARS OLD!

[Molly]

Jesus knew a lot.  That's why people called him, Rabbi [meaning [professional] teacher].

[Beloved Servant]

John 1
The Word Became Flesh
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

[Molly]

Mark 11:21
Peter remembered and said to Jesus, "Rabbi, look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!"

[eaglesway]

I am the bread that comes down from heaven. 

[Beloved Servant]

Jesus knew a lot.  That's why people called him, Rabbi [meaning [professional] teacher].

Yeah, ummm, OK!
He knew a lot.
Not everything — but —  a lot!

[Molly]

Jesus knew a lot.  That's why people called him, Rabbi [meaning [professional] teacher].

Yeah, ummm, OK!
He knew a lot.
Not everything — but —  a lot!

Those weren't my words.   Why don't you go kick the dog.

[Beloved Servant]

Jesus knew a lot.  That's why people called him, Rabbi [meaning [professional] teacher].

Yeah, ummm, OK!
He knew a lot.
Not everything — but —  a lot!

Those weren't my words.   Why don't you go kick the dog.

Kick the dog?
Nervous breakdown?

[Beloved Servant]

Professionals are people who study the Bible for a living.

I do admit to some out there knowing more than I know.

But, you say you are ALWAYS RIGHT!

[Beloved Servant]

IF you are always right; whom can know more than YOU?

[Molly]

Micah, I hope you can scroll back through the debris to see my answer to your post.

[Beloved Servant]

Micah, I hope you can scroll back through the debris to see my answer to your post.

Debris?
To WHOM do you refer?

[Beloved Servant]

Why don't you go kick the dog.

He is only 6 months old!
It's still a puppy!
Thanks for the advice, but I won't do that.

[micah7:9]

Molly I had no need to scroll back, yet I enjoyed totally the comments of Beloved. To gather- to empty- to learn- to grow... such is our table, and I come with hunger and thanks; to have the whole loaf to myself would leave me as a fool, for it takes the many to discern and enjoy the energy, wholesomeness and luminous of the offering. Praise His Name :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob: :bigGrin: :happyclap: :happyclap:

[WhiteWings]

Mix UR with Messanic Jews and you are close to the ideal mix I think....

Here are my thoughts;    It's wonderful their veil has been lifted and they can see the Messiah.  Praise God!

Not sure I agree with that. You make it sound they are sub-standard Christians.

However, Peter and James taught Jewish believers who, although they experienced the Messiah, were not far removed from their lifetime of Jewish temple worship, so they maintained much of the culture, views, and even religious activities of the Old Covenant.  Some of them were even still teaching one must be circumcised.".

What do you prefer? A world filled with Peters or a world filled with Augustines?

On the other hand, Paul taught [a mixture of Messianic Jews and pagans] that they no longer needed to observe the Jewish/OT customs, that those things were only a shadow of what they were now able to see and experience (Jesus), and that no one had the right to judge them for it.

So as I said, it's wonderful Messianic Jews experience Jesus, but I believe some of them are as the ones that James and Peter taught;  still not very far removed from their cultural and religious activities and observances, still participating in the "shadow" of the Old Covenant.  I certainly don't believe they are to be judged for that at all, and some gentiles wish to participate in some of those activities (days, feasts, etc.) and have the freedom to do so.  But I believe given time, as the personal relationship with Jesus increases, many of them will move away from those shadows, as they grow more and more into their realized freedom of "whom the SON makes free is free indeed".

Firstly I wrote the messanics should be mixed with UR. Little more liberal. Not so strickt in regulations.
1] Messanic Jews.
2] Orthodox Jews.
3] Orthodox Christianity.

For me that's the order how I see it. Messanic Jews are closed to God and Jesus. Orthdox Christian are far of. Just a bunch of pagans. :spank: <- WW

[WhiteWings]

I like the King James Bible plus E-sword as my favorite study Bible.

You can follow along with the Hebrew and Greek words and see what the translators did with the words.

I've found for myself that, with a few exceptions which we all know, King James is most faithful to the Greek and Hebrew words.

If there are problems understanding the text, then I can go to easier translations to help understand what the writer was saying, but I always return to King James as the most accurate and in depth treatment of the Word.  That's why it's often so hard to understand at first.  They don't care whether you can understand it or not; they are just being as faithful as possible to the Greek and Hebrew text, while at the same time using proper English.

Maybe it's an acquired taste. :icon_king:

Very bad taste  :winkgrin:
It's totally beyond my comprehension that a UR believer values the KJV so high.
I think Salman Rushdie wrote a book about KJV :mblush:

[Molly]

I like the King James Bible plus E-sword as my favorite study Bible.

You can follow along with the Hebrew and Greek words and see what the translators did with the words.

I've found for myself that, with a few exceptions which we all know, King James is most faithful to the Greek and Hebrew words.

If there are problems understanding the text, then I can go to easier translations to help understand what the writer was saying, but I always return to King James as the most accurate and in depth treatment of the Word.  That's why it's often so hard to understand at first.  They don't care whether you can understand it or not; they are just being as faithful as possible to the Greek and Hebrew text, while at the same time using proper English.

Maybe it's an acquired taste. :icon_king:

Very bad taste  :winkgrin:
It's totally beyond my comprehenion that a UR believe values teh KJV so high.
I think Salman Rushdie wrote a book about KJV :mblush:

Yes, I do love the King James Bible because I feel it's generally the closest and best translation--exceptions noted.  But, those exceptions were probably forced on them.

[WhiteWings]

Why don't you go kick the dog.

He is only 6 months old!
It's still a puppy!
Thanks for the advice, but I won't do that.

Pitty your dog has to live outside the gates  :mblush:

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[WhiteWings]

Jesus knew a lot.  That's why people called him, Rabbi [meaning [professional] teacher].

Yeah, ummm, OK!
He knew a lot.
Not everything — but —  a lot!

"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

[Beloved Servant]

Why don't you go kick the dog.

He is only 6 months old!
It's still a puppy!
Thanks for the advice, but I won't do that.

Pitty your dog has to live outside the gates  :mblush:

Who would kick a puppy?
I don't understand that remark.

[Beloved Servant]

Jesus knew a lot.  That's why people called him, Rabbi [meaning [professional] teacher].

Yeah, ummm, OK!
He knew a lot.
Not everything — but —  a lot!

"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

I know that Scripture but —
How can that be if He and the Father are One?

[micah7:9]

Jesus knew a lot.  That's why people called him, Rabbi [meaning [professional] teacher].

Yeah, ummm, OK!
He knew a lot.
Not everything — but —  a lot!

"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

I know that Scripture but —
How can that be if He and the Father are One?

I can understand that, but the debate would lead to a detour we are not to take.
BUT I found that more translations DO NOT have..."nor the Son"......just how or who decided that "nor the Son" be put in? Wycliffe 1395 does not have it in???

[Molly]

 

BUT I found that more translations DO NOT have..."nor the Son"......

Mark 13:32

New International Version (©1984)
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

New Living Translation (©2007)
"However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows.

English Standard Version (©2001)
"But concerning that day or that hour, no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"But of that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

International Standard Version (©2008)
"No one knows when that day or hour will come-not the angels in heaven, not the Son, but only the Father.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
But of that day and of that hour no man knows, neither the Angels of Heaven, neither The Son, but The Father only."

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
"No one knows when that day or hour will come. Even the angels in heaven and the Son don't know. Only the Father knows.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
But of that day and that hour knows no man, no, not the angels who are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

American King James Version
But of that day and that hour knows no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

American Standard Version
But of that day or that hour knoweth no one, not even the angels in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

Douay-Rheims Bible
But of that day or hour no man knoweth, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father.

Darby Bible Translation
But of that day or of that hour no one knows, neither the angels who are in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father.

English Revised Version
But of that day or that hour knoweth no one, not even the angels in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

Webster's Bible Translation
But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

Weymouth New Testament
"But as to that day or the exact time no one knows--not even the angels in Heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.

World English Bible
But of that day or that hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Young's Literal Translation
'And concerning that day and the hour no one hath known -- not even the messengers who are in the heaven, not even the Son -- except the Father.