I GIvE YOU THE aPOSTLE juDE

[sheila]

  a servant of Jesus Christ,and brother of James

   To those who have been called,who are loved by God and kept by Jesus Christ....

    who received the Son of God..and received that reward..to become a son of God.   who also received the prophet Enoch..and received the reward of a prophet

  and testified about the mystery of godlessness and the mystery of  godliness.

   v 18   They said to you,in the last time there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires. These are the men who divide you,who

follow mere natural instincts and do not have the spirit.


     v 24 to him who is able to keep you from falling[away] and to present you before his glorious presence,without fault and with great joy-

   to the only God,Our Saviour be glory,majesty,power and authority,through Jesus Christ our Lord,before all ages,now,and forevermore

[Molly]

Matthew 10:41
He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.

[Beloved Servant]

They are clouds without water, swept along by the winds;
trees, without fruit at the late autumn gathering time--twice (doubly) dead, [lifeless and] plucked up by the roots;
Wild waves of the sea, flinging up the foam of their own shame and disgrace;

wandering stars,

for whom the gloom of eternal darkness has been reserved forever.

[eaglesway]

 Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about them:

"See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones to judge everyone, and to convict all of them of all the ungodly acts they have committed in their ungodliness, and of all the defiant words ungodly sinners have spoken against him."

These people are grumblers and faultfinders; they follow their own evil desires;

they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage.

[Beloved Servant]

...lest we forget their finger-pointing.

[sheila]

 :msealed:

[micah7:9]

  a servant of Jesus Christ,and brother of James

   To those who have been called,who are loved by God and kept by Jesus Christ....

    who received the Son of God..and received that reward..to become a son of God.   who also received the prophet Enoch..and received the reward of a prophet

  and testified about the mystery of godlessness and the mystery of  godliness.

   v 18   They said to you,in the last time there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires. These are the men who divide you,who

follow mere natural instincts and do not have the spirit.


     v 24 to him who is able to keep you from falling[away] and to present you before his glorious presence,without fault and with great joy-

   to the only God,Our Saviour be glory,majesty,power and authority,through Jesus Christ our Lord,before all ages,now,and forevermore

v 18   They said to you,in the last time there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires. These are the men who divide you,who

follow mere natural instincts and do not have the spirit.
Sounds like religion and the church system to me.

[WhiteWings]

Sounds like religion and the church system to me.

Why? The OT Jews were always small in number. Surrounded by all sorts of religions. I think that today the percentage Bible believers (33%) is higher than back then.

[sheila]

      I beleive that what we saw with the offspring of vipers that come out to John the Baptist,is related. John siad,'who warned you?"..therefore

  produce fruit in keeping with repentance. I think of God asking Adam'who told you"  Unregenerate Adam,not drawn by God..non-repentant spirit

    I beleive,these type infiltrated the congregation.   There is no 'change' or active expression of the Holy spirit in them. The lawless one does

  not express true repentance and is not born of the spirit.They be man followers,lean on their own understanding,do not follow the Holy spirit..


    The spirit that is active on them is the image of the corrupt one[Father is the devil]   They do not hear His voice..or recognize it.. They transform themselves

as an angel of light. Jesus said,'if the light that be in you,is darkness,how great is that darkness'

     They may have a name that they are alive..but are dead.

     Now,all sin is of the devil...and those with the spirit do not continue to practice sin...they wrestle with it in their flesh to subdue it.. so they may

bear fruit unto the Lord.

    Now, we have examples of those with full blown expression of this spirit that is operative in unregenerate Adam. An abomination in the Holy of Holies..

  But also...this spirit is in the outer court/flesh of those who do have the spirit of God[holy spirit] and is known as the trampling of the gentiles...

  or sin in our flesh...that Paul spoke about.  Isaaih 28;6  speaking of the spirit of the Lord[in Holy of Holies of our temple body] He will be

a spirit of justice to him who sits in judgement, A SOURCE OF STRENGTH TO THOSE WHO TURN BACK THE BATTLE AT THE GATE/door....

  He is door of the sheep,what He opens,no one can close,what He closes,no-one can open


    In other words..we that have the spirit are very aware of the spirit of rebellion[sin] that is in our own outer court[flesh] And we turn back

  the battle at the gate  ONLY BY THE HOLY SPIRIT THAT IS IN THE MOST HOLY IN US. THE spirit of justice in us realizes that many temples

of  God are completely over-run by these powerful principalities.We also realize that though these spirits desolate,Jesus Christ will rebuild the spiritual

house.  We can hold them off in the name of the Lord,as we await our deliverance from all sin[Rev 20;9]

[sheila]

   At the time of our deliverance when He does away with these with the breath of His coming,and we are changed..we will put on garments

  of splendour...and the uncircumcized and defiled WILL NOT ENTER US AGAIN. Shake the dust off your feet,signifies the nations are as dust on

  the scales to Him...showing the unclean,uncircumcized spirits that trample our own outer court for the lawless ones in the outer court/or sin in our flesh

  does not do the will of Christ[Paul spoke of it]

     He showed us the desolation that happened in Jerusalem..when they rejected the saviour...this is a very HUGE EXAMPLE as to our own bodies and

  the struggles with the sin in our flesh[uncircumcized spirits trampling

[micah7:9]

Sounds like religion and the church system to me.

Why? The OT Jews were always small in number. Surrounded by all sorts of religions. I think that today the percentage Bible believers (33%) is higher than back then.

Ive come to see that Bible believers as you call them, are more religious, denominational, and sect followers than True Worshipers.

[eaglesway]

Pharisees would have categorized themselves as Bible believers, as would most of the Israelites who called for Barrabas, As ould most of the folks who think I am going to hell because i teach that hell is a myth ;o)

[micah7:9]

Pharisees would have categorized themselves as Bible believers, as would most of the Israelites who called for Barrabas, As ould most of the folks who think I am going to hell because i teach that hell is a myth ;o)

:thumbsup:

[sheila]

   the Jerusalem that now is ,is a sign in the earth[signs in heaven and earth]

..of those He is rebuilding[even us] surrounded by the nations...you will note the camp in the

   wilderness is surrounded by Gog's hordes/nations. No m atter how overcome any man is..He is still Holy unto the Lord and due to be raised up in

Christ. the enmity,war and desolations until the end..is decreed. It is a spiritual war,of  which we wait in faith for our Messiah to return,to deliver us

  just as the jews,of which Paul stated he was as one born out of season.The season is now The revelation is for our time. It is at the doors!!


     We KNOW THE BATTLE IS WON,BEFORE IT EVEN BEGINS IN CHRIST FOR ALL MANKIND. So, take heart,fight the fine fight of faith,be diligent in

  Him,follow the Holy spirit. The 'pangs' of childbirth are coming.Corrections,to make men call out to God and receive Him are coming


    Press in,close,under His wings

[eaglesway]

Amen

Come Quickly, Lord Jesus.

Arise O Lord to your dwelling place, you and the ark of your strength.

[thinktank]

I am pleased with the progress made here at tentmaker. The Spirit is working.