What would god do in this hypothetical situation?

[nes]

So what do you think would happen next?

My alarm clock goes off.

So your saying that this situation can't occur??  Why not?

[jabcat]

Very good scrips, Dave.


nes, maybe it's more accurate for me to say "in the direct Presence of God THE FATHER [Who will become All in All, when Jesus hands over the kingdom to Him]"

John 1:18    No one has ever seen God;  rather, it was the only God to be born, who is lying upon the Father's chest, who has described Him.  Christian Bible, 1991

"But He said, 'You cannot see My face, for no man can see Me and live!'"    (Exodus 33:20).      Amen!  Anyone who has yet to die the second death, will see Him and die!  His judgments lead to righteousness.     I Cor. 15:22  For even as, in Adam, all are dying, thus also, in Christ, shall all be vivified.   Each man in his own order.

I have no idea what you are talking about.  Did I ever say that the person seen/heard god in a non-flesh form with his eyes/ears?  No, I did not. 

The person heard god's question through his mind.  Let's assume that this was god in the non-flesh form and not a demon or hallucination.  Now do you mind trying to take a stab at the question by answering what you think would happen next in this hypothetical situation?

Thinktank:  The person wasn't afraid or scared.  I got no idea where it says in the bible that god doesn't "show" love to people that are afraid/scared.

yes I mind "taking a stab", because I believe it's an unBiblical suggested scenario and a fruitless endeavor.  I would be making things up, because I don't believe that's  Who God IS or how He works.   

Myself and others have presented scripture and solid scripturally-based thoughts.   If you can hear them, great.  If not, you will some day.   Take care.

[nes]

yes I mind "taking a stab", because I believe it's an unBiblical suggested scenario and a fruitless endeavor.  I would be making things up, because I don't believe that's  Who God IS or how He works.   

Myself and others have presented scripture and solid scripturally-based thoughts.   If you can hear them, great.  If not, you will some day.   Take care.

How is this an unbiblical suggested scenario?  I believe that I've refuted any argument so far that this isn't a "biblical scenario".

[thinktank]

Very good scrips, Dave.


nes, maybe it's more accurate for me to say "in the direct Presence of God THE FATHER [Who will become All in All, when Jesus hands over the kingdom to Him]"

John 1:18    No one has ever seen God;  rather, it was the only God to be born, who is lying upon the Father's chest, who has described Him.  Christian Bible, 1991

"But He said, 'You cannot see My face, for no man can see Me and live!'"    (Exodus 33:20).      Amen!  Anyone who has yet to die the second death, will see Him and die!  His judgments lead to righteousness.     I Cor. 15:22  For even as, in Adam, all are dying, thus also, in Christ, shall all be vivified.   Each man in his own order.

I have no idea what you are talking about.  Did I ever say that the person seen/heard god in a non-flesh form with his eyes/ears?  No, I did not. 

The person heard god's question through his mind.  Let's assume that this was god in the non-flesh form and not a demon or hallucination.  Now do you mind trying to take a stab at the question by answering what you think would happen next in this hypothetical situation?

Thinktank:  The person wasn't afraid or scared.  I got no idea where it says in the bible that god doesn't "show" love to people that are afraid/scared.

Then you have exposed yourself for asking a a non genuine question, a "trick" question you ask us.

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What would god do in this hypothetical situation?

Let's say you were to call on god, the father to come. 
God does come without showing love.
But you don't desire anything.
God then asks you,"What do you want?"
And you don't answer and still desire nothing.

So what do you think would happen next?

[nes]

Then you have exposed yourself for asking a a non genuine question, a "trick" question you ask us.

Are you saying that god can't come without showing love?  How is that biblical?

[legoman]

OK I'll play along.

The original hypothetical situation:


Joe calls on God, the Father to come.
God does come without showing love.
But Joe doesn't desire anything.
God then asks you,"What do you want?"
Joe doesn't answer and still desires nothing.

What happens next?

Well you can makeup whatever you want here since this is all hypothetical.  But this could be a likely possibility based on what we know from scripture:

God, knowing full well what Joe will do, and desiring full well to save Joe, waits.
Joe begins to feel foolish for asking God to come when he didn't really desire anything.
God reveals his full nature and shows Joe that He loves him.  Certainly God was not fully revealing Himself previously (since He did come without showing love, even though God is love).
Joe is humbled and ashamed at his own foolishness.  Yet he is amazed and drawn to the mercy and love of God.
Joe comes to understand what was missing in his life: love!  Joe realizes that is what Christ is.
Joe realizes he is a sinner.  Joe bows his knee and confesses that Jesus is Lord, and swears allegiance to Him.

[nes]

Well you can makeup whatever you want here since this is all hypothetical.  But this could be a likely possibility based on what we know from scripture:

God, knowing full well what Joe will do, and desiring full well to save Joe, waits.
Joe begins to feel foolish for asking God to come when he didn't really desire anything.
God reveals his full nature and shows Joe that He loves him.  Certainly God was not fully revealing Himself previously (since He did come without showing love, even though God is love).
Joe is humbled and ashamed at his own foolishness.  Yet he is amazed and drawn to the mercy and love of God.
Joe comes to understand what was missing in his life: love!  Joe realizes that is what Christ is.
Joe realizes he is a sinner.  Joe bows his knee and confesses that Jesus is Lord, and swears allegiance to Him.

I've already said Joe was a believer, what would he be saved from?  I have clueless as to how you thought events would unfold this way.  If Joe didn't believe, how did he get god to come??

I'll reveal what I think would happen in this scenario after I see more replies  :grin:

[Beloved Servant]

How many more replies do you desire?

[Beloved Servant]

Does this count as one?

[Beloved Servant]

And this — is this another reply?

[Beloved Servant]

Will you tell us now?

[nes]

Will you tell us now?

LOL

[legoman]

Well you can makeup whatever you want here since this is all hypothetical.  But this could be a likely possibility based on what we know from scripture:

God, knowing full well what Joe will do, and desiring full well to save Joe, waits.
Joe begins to feel foolish for asking God to come when he didn't really desire anything.
God reveals his full nature and shows Joe that He loves him.  Certainly God was not fully revealing Himself previously (since He did come without showing love, even though God is love).
Joe is humbled and ashamed at his own foolishness.  Yet he is amazed and drawn to the mercy and love of God.
Joe comes to understand what was missing in his life: love!  Joe realizes that is what Christ is.
Joe realizes he is a sinner.  Joe bows his knee and confesses that Jesus is Lord, and swears allegiance to Him.

I've already said Joe was a believer, what would he be saved from?  I have clueless as to how you thought events would unfold this way.  If Joe didn't believe, how did he get god to come??

I'll reveal what I think would happen in this scenario after I see more replies  :grin:

LOL you are "clueless"...  :dontknow:  why wouldn't events unfold that way if Joe was just calling on the lord for the first time?

OK sorry your OP didn't specify Joe was a "believer".   

You say "how did he get god to come??" - that is an interesting statement in itself that seems to be completely off base with respect to God's sovereignty, but that is probably another whole tangent...

It seems you are looking for a very specific answer to a very vague and hypothetical situation.  Perhaps it would be easier if you just explain your point of view, otherwise it might seem like you are just playing games.

But now I am really at a loss of what you are driving at.  Joe, a believer, calls on the Lord, for no particular reason, and doesn't even desire any particular thing (yet apparently he desired to call God).  God asks why and Joe does & desires nothing.   :dontknow:  You ask "what happens next".  Well any of a million things could happen next, still not sure what your point is.

[thinktank]

Then you have exposed yourself for asking a a non genuine question, a "trick" question you ask us.

Are you saying that god can't come without showing love?  How is that biblical?

I don't know whether God shows love, during every appearance. Since when God shows up, the persons feelings are not revealed. But in many instances when God shows up, the person is affraid.

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Concerning your position I don't know what you are saying
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Thinktank:  The person wasn't afraid or scared.  I got no idea where it says in the bible that god doesn't "show" love to people that are afraid/scared

Quote 2

Are you saying that god can't come without showing love?  How is that biblical?
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Does God in your hypothesis show love or not?

[nes]

I don't know whether God shows love, during every appearance. Since when God shows up, the persons feelings are not revealed. But in many instances when God shows up, the person is affraid.

The person wasn't afraid at all.

Concerning your position I don't know what you are saying
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Thinktank:  The person wasn't afraid or scared.  I got no idea where it says in the bible that god doesn't "show" love to people that are afraid/scared

I'm just saying that when god came, the person wasn't scared or afraid.

Quote 2

Are you saying that god can't come without showing love?  How is that biblical?
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Does God in your hypothesis show love or not?

Mark 10:21
Jesus looked at him and loved him...

God didn't do what jesus did here.  When Jesus loved him, the other person felt love.  So the person that called god to come didn't feel any love from god.