Bible Versions - Recommendations?

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mtatum4496

Does anyone know of specific versions of the Bible that provide more accurate translations of words that are identified as hell in the KJV and other popular versions?  It's getting time to buy a new Bible and I'd like to get the most accurate translation possible.

WhiteWings

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YLT - Youngs Literal translation --> printed format and free electronic versions. OT+NT
TCB - The Christian Bible --> printed format only. NT only
LXX Brenton. - English translation of the the Greek OT translated 300-200 BC  -> Free electronic versions.
EBR - Rotherham Enhanced Bible  --> Electronic and printed copies. OT+NT

Very literal version in software and pdf format. Very nice for study but very hard to read.
http://www.scripture4all.org/


I would like to suggest to read the electronic versions first.
http://www.tentmaker.org/forum/christian_life/list_useful_links_9060.msg112440.html#msg112440
TCB is a very good translation (imo) that uses modern (1995) English.

Personally I use all of the above version plus KJV+TVM.
Imo some depth has gone lost in all translations. Then it's useful to be able to look up the original meanings in a electronic version of Strong/Thayer. KJV is one of the very few translations that has links to a lexicon.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Miriam

I recently asked myself the same question. I don't download things (my better half discourages it) but you can read the Young's Literal Translation online:

http://online-bible-study.net/youngs-literal-online-bible/

It's worth reading reviews of these versions - I read a lot about them on Amazon and in other places before I made my decision, and did some reading of the Young's Literal online as well. I've just bought myself a Rotherham's Emphasized version - I never managed to find it online - and am working my way through the very comprehensive introduction. I think it's going to be a brilliant study Bible and is intended as such - the translator states that his intention was to produce a Companion Version - and I believe many people here use it (and other literal translations) as their main reading Bible. I hope my understanding grows to that level. I love the language of it, although at present I sometimes have to refer to other versions for clarification of meaning. (My main reading Bible at present is the Amplified - not because it renders the "hell" and "ages" words as we would like but because it expands on the meaning of certain words. I've been an NIV reader for the whole of my Christian life and feel the urgent need to get away from it, at least for a time.)

The Christian Bible is only available by snail mail from an address in America (I'm in the UK). There's a whole thread on it, and it's very highly thought of here.

http://www.tentmaker.org/forum/word_studies/the_christian_bible_1991_7876.0.html


On a purely practical note, these are BIG Bibles. My Rotherham's wouldn't fit into any Bible case I've ever seen (it measures 24.5cm length X 17cm width X 7cm depth) and while I've never seen a Young's in the flesh (as it were - maybe I mean "in the paper"  :laughing7: ) I gather it's even bigger. Fine to keep on a table for study; not so easy if you want to carry it to a Bible study... invest in a small suitcase on wheels maybe...  :grin:

gregoryfl

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Sorry, I should not be posting anything, so deleting.

WhiteWings

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Quote from: Miriam on March 21, 2011, 11:49:05 PM
I recently asked myself the same question. I don't download things (my better half discourages it)
I wonder why...
Lots of downloads are legal. If it is about virusses or trojans; more PCs get infected by visiting websites than installing software.
:2c:

Another YLT: http://awmach.org/bibles/BYN/index
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

WhiteWings

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Quote from: Miriam on March 21, 2011, 11:49:05 PM
On a purely practical note, these are BIG Bibles. My Rotherham's wouldn't fit into any Bible case I've ever seen (it measures 24.5cm length X 17cm width X 7cm depth) and while I've never seen a Young's in the flesh (as it were - maybe I mean "in the paper"  :laughing7: ) I gather it's even bigger. Fine to keep on a table for study; not so easy if you want to carry it to a Bible study... invest in a small suitcase on wheels maybe...  :grin:
I would like to warn that the printed copy of the Bullinger Bible is  :thumbdown:
They forgot to put inkt in the presses...

Rotherham online version.
Many including Rotherham
Rotherham
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Miriam

Quote from: WhiteWings on March 24, 2011, 05:01:50 PM
Quote from: Miriam on March 21, 2011, 11:49:05 PM
On a purely practical note, these are BIG Bibles. My Rotherham's wouldn't fit into any Bible case I've ever seen (it measures 24.5cm length X 17cm width X 7cm depth) and while I've never seen a Young's in the flesh (as it were - maybe I mean "in the paper"  :laughing7: ) I gather it's even bigger. Fine to keep on a table for study; not so easy if you want to carry it to a Bible study... invest in a small suitcase on wheels maybe...  :grin:
I would like to warn that the printed copy of the Bullinger Bible is  :thumbdown:
They forgot to put inkt in the presses...

Rotherham online version.
Many including Rotherham
Rotherham
What is the Bullinger Bible?

Thanks for those links, WhiteWings. The first one gives an idea of the translation, but does not have the text markers to indicate various phrasings and emphases - which are an integral part of that version, if I understand the Introduction correctly.

I can't get the last link to give me a readable page, no matter how much I enlarge it. No matter to me, as I have the printed text.

Mtatum4496, how are you getting on with finding a version?

WhiteWings

1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Miriam


WhiteWings

Mmm, I like the way it integrates comments with the text.
It's not really a reading Bible. If you want to read just take a KJV because Bullinger is KJV.
If you want to study using KJV text then Bullinger is  a good starting point.

http://www.therain.org/appendixes/
http://www.levendwater.org/companion/index_companion.html
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

PaoloNuevo

Wish they had thinline versions of YLT or Rotherham.. 

WhiteWings

1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Miriam

I get a bit mind-boggled with all there is out there to read.  :mshock: Where do you start? Where do you stop?  :dontknow:

WhiteWings

Quote from: Miriam on March 25, 2011, 09:14:37 PM
I get a bit mind-boggled with all there is out there to read.  :mshock: Where do you start? Where do you stop?  :dontknow:
There are various good translations. It's a bit personal what reads best for you. I would suggest to read a chapter of each translation. With so many online versions that's easy to do.
I think either YLT and Rotherham are a good choice.
If you plan to buy a printed copy I suggest you read reviews on Amazon. YLT reviews often are bad concerning the printing quality. Many find the print to small.
YLT was written in 1887
REB was written in 1900
TCB was written 1995 (NT only)

REB uses much moderner English.
YLT/REB
separateth/divided
bringeth/brought-forth
prepareth/created

Personally I use YLT, REB, KJV and a good lexicon.
Miriam, do you just read the Bible? Or do you check what each words in a verse means?
Pssst go electronic  :laughing7:
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Lefein

I've been growing fonder of the Septuagint myself  :boyheart:

WhiteWings

Quote from: Lefein on March 25, 2011, 09:48:32 PM
I've been growing fonder of the Septuagint myself  :boyheart:
I have Brenton on my electronic list too.
Did you notice many people are 100 year older in the LXX?
http://www.tentmaker.org/forum/members_lounge/hebrew_masoretic_vs_greek_septuagint_timeline_7546.msg87275.html#msg87275
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Miriam

Quote from: WhiteWings on March 25, 2011, 09:43:41 PM
Personally I use YLT, REB, KJV and a good lexicon.
Miriam, do you just read the Bible? Or do you check what each words in a verse means?
Pssst go electronic  :laughing7:
Something of both, though I have to confess my study is a bit disorganised and haphazard.  :mblush: I read the Youngs online for a while before I decided to go for a hard copy of the Rotherham's. I love language and words but I found the Youngs quite hard to understand; for me the Rotherham's is a bit more accessible.

I spend all my working day at a computer screen and like a printed page to read from as a change.  :winkgrin:

WhiteWings

I can understand that. But for me personally I can't read without digging up some info about you  :winkgrin:

EBRExod 15
20 Then took Miriam the prophetess, sister of Aaron, the timbrel in her hand,––and all the women came forth after her with timbrels, and dances.

מרים
miryâm
BDB Definition:
Miriam = "rebellion"
1) elder sister of Moses and Aaron
2) a woman of Judah
Part of Speech: noun proper feminine
A Related Word by BDB/Strong's Number: from H4805

מרה
mârâh
BDB Definition:
1) to be contentious, be rebellious, be refractory, be disobedient towards, be rebellious against
1a) (Qal) to be disobedient, be rebellious
1a1) towards father
1a2) towards God
1b) (Hiphil) to show rebelliousness, show disobedience, disobey
Part of Speech: verb
A Related Word by BDB/Strong's Number: a primitive root
Same Word by TWOT Number: 1242
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Miriam

I'd have been a bit more careful about my choice of board name if I'd known you were going to analyse it so thoroughly.  :grin: I chose it simply because it's a pretty form of my real life name - I resolved never to use my real name on message boards after I was stalked on one. Nothing sinister, just a friend who found it funny, but it made me feel pretty uncomfortable.  :mshock: