Aionion

[shawn]

I would like to get some opinions on this article.

needed to remove a link by request of link "owner" (no harm, their issue)

[WhiteWings]

Craig usually has good stuff and makes good points in this article.
Recently I get a stronger feeling the focus is to much or cold hard grammar.
Western logic may not always apply to Hebrew which is one big parable  :winkgrin:

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Personally, for me, if someone has a copyright at the bottom I won't bother reading it. Freely we have been given and freely we give. Already they have quenched the Holy Spirit. My  :2c: Blessings.....

[WhiteWings]

In that case just read the version he posted on this forum

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: How did he post anything on this forum?  :dontknow:

[WhiteWings]

In the pre-ban aion  :winkgrin:

[micah7:9]

:cloud9: Personally, for me, if someone has a copyright at the bottom I won't bother reading it. Freely we have been given and freely we give. Already they have quenched the Holy Spirit. My  :2c: Blessings.....

:thumbsup: :bigGrin:

[WhiteWings]

http://www.city-data.com/forum/christianity/1168414-plato-never-used-aion-aionios-eternal.html

[DrAnthonyCarnasis]

All articles are copyright as per the author who wrote them, but the author has made it very clear they are freely received and freely given.

If you have any questions about the article concerning Aionion, feel free to send me a message or email myself. There is an excellent resource in Evengelical Universalist forum, who wrote a very indepth book concerning the word Aionion which I would happily suggest.

Yours truly,
Dr. Anthony Carnasis

P.S. Tentmaker and Tentmaker Forums are copyright (see attachment), does that mean this place quenched the Holy Spirit? In any case, I feel it is bad form to insult someone when they are not here.

[DrAnthonyCarnasis]

http://www.amazon.com/Terms-Eternity-Ai%C3%B4nios-Classical-Christian/dp/1593336942/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_1

[WhiteWings]

http://www.hopebeyondhell.net/blog/what-does-%E2%80%9Ceternity%E2%80%9D-in-the-bible-mean/

Terms for Eternity is another scholarly work on aiōn by David Konstan and Ilaria Ramelli. Konstan is the John Rowe Workman Distinguished Professor of Classics and Professor of Comparative Literature, at Brown University in R.I. Ramelli is Assistant Professor of Ancient Philosophy at the Catholic University of Milan, Italy. They agree with the conclusions of Dr. Keizer. They wrote:

"Apart from the Platonic philosophical vocabulary, which is specific to few authors, aiónios does not mean "eternal"; it acquires this meaning only when it refers to God, and only because the notion of eternity was included in the conception of God: for the rest, it has a wide range of meanings and its possible renderings are multiple, but it does not mean "eternal." In particular when it is associated with life or punishment, in the Bible and in Christian authors who keep themselves close to the Biblical usage, it denotes their belonging to the world to come." (Page 238)

These scholarly works are important, as the key defense of eternal punishment depends on this word meaning absolute eternity. For more on the meaning of aiōn, see our website: HopeBeyondHell.net; Further Study; Eternity, and Church History.

Hope beyond hell - 3rd edition - full book

The article of Heleen Keizer should be for download on the same site but I'm unable to find it.
Part of it can be found HERE