The teaching on Hell is losing ground, and is becoming more evident

Started by Universalist Catholic, September 03, 2010, 07:22:31 PM

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Universalist Catholic

First off, we have several Churches(Particularly Fundamentalist Churches) that only allow use of the King James Version.  Why is the KJV the only approved bible?  Because they have translated Gehenna, Hades/Sheol and Tartarus as Hell, and have translated their word Aion as Eternal, Everlasting.  So why cant other translations be used? Because many of those translations dont translate the bible as the KJV does, and therefore could refute their doctrine. 

The second point is, many people try to prove eternal torment by such documentaries by people who claimed to have went to hell, such as Bill Weise and Mary Baxter.  Its pretty clear Bill Weises imagery came from Dantes Divine Comedy, and Mary Baxter had some psychological problems.  Others try to prove that Eternal Torment is real based on this doctor Maurice Rawlings who supposedly witnessed many of his patients go to Hell, who were originally atheist.  Funny how they dont mention all the heavenly NDE's that outnumber all the Hellish NDE's. 

If the original Hebrew/Greek Scriptures dont teach Eternal Hell, then the doctrine has absolutely no ground, and can only be supported by non-bible sources, and cults made up of brainwashed people. 

coldwar

Hi UC- I may have asked you about this before, but don't recall that you ever replied to it- that is I found a link that talks about the wide, seemingly official acceptance of Universal Reconciliation by the Catholic Church- here's the link:

http://www.romancatholicism.org/universal-salvation.htm

I'd like to hear from you about your experience as a Catholic - are you finding this extent of UR doctrine to be "real" in your church at a local level? What happens at a typical Catholic funeral if the departed one had not been really faithful to Church, nor had his Last Rites, etc. This should be a revealing question.

I'm Anglican, which is "small c catholic", and we do not have an official "Pro-UR" position as is found here. There are pockets of UR belief among more "liberal" Anglicans, but many still believe in ET I think, and most probably don't really know what they believe.

So it would seem "the teaching on hell is losing ground in the Roman Catholic Church"- are you finding this to be really true? If so, then the world's largest Christian denomination has in fact already adopted UR as their official position, and it happened over 40 years ago, and was upheld by one of the most popular and influential Popes ever. In this, we here should be rejoicing! :bgdance:

santikos

I think that those in authority dont really believe in hell as a place where my mom with be burn forever with her skin still in tact and the pain lasting forever. i go to a pentecostal church and i never hear a sermon on hell. i just think that those who are at the top are afraid to let the laity know what they really believe. but if you ask any of them on about it they say something like " hell is seperation from God". as for the catholic church now UR, i believe 99% of the sunday goers are believers in hell even if those few on top are not. Maybe i am wrong, but like my pentecostal church, ALL of its doctrine if false.