Struggling With The Word- ALL?

[rockclimber]

This came from a commentary that i read. Your thoughts please.
Isn't it amazing how this three letter word ALL baffles so many people? What's a person to make of it? What does it mean? Is there a hidden meaning to the word or does it simply mean- wholly, everyone, totally to a complete degree or to the full or entire extent.. There must be a DOUBLE meaning as well, right? Many people read Romans 5:18 where it reads that by one man's sins ALL are condemned (and all agree), but then it goes on to say by one man's righteousness, ALL will be saved (but in that same verse this ALL is different than the first ALL? How so?

Theological glasses my friend! 

When you take a position that there is an eternal, everlasting, tormenting hell and you are forced to say that ALL can't be saved of course, but it's not just a matter of Romans 5:18 because we ALL know that you can make a case for anything by finding a verse that suits your doctrine. However, it's not just one verse!

>I Tim. 4:10 Savior of ALL men>
>I Tim. 2:3 Will have ALL men be saved
>Luke 3:6 ALL flesh will see the salvation of God
>II Peter 3:9 ALL shall come to repentance
>John 5:8 ALL shall be made alive
>John 4:32 Christ is the savior to ALL the world
>II Cor. 5:18-19 God is in Christ reconciling Himself to ALL the world
>Rom. 14:11 Every kneww shall bow and ALL shall confess He is Lord
I Cor. 15:22-28 God will be ALL in ALL

And that's not ALL of the verses by far!

I know some men struggle with what IS means, but for me ALL simply means ALL!

[martincisneros]

>I Tim. 4:10 Savior of ALL men>
>I Tim. 2:3 Will have ALL men be saved
>Luke 3:6 ALL flesh will see the salvation of God
>II Peter 3:9 ALL shall come to repentance
>John 5:8 ALL shall be made alive
>John 4:32 Christ is the savior to ALL the world
>II Cor. 5:18-19 God is in Christ reconciling Himself to ALL the world
>Rom. 14:11 Every kneww shall bow and ALL shall confess He is Lord
I Cor. 15:22-28 God will be ALL in ALL

Wowie Wow Wow Wow!  I didn't know every kneww would bow as well!  I thought only every knee would bow and every tongue confess? (Which for some people that means that only all tongues and all knees will be saved for all of eternity while God trashes and burns everything else about most of the people!!  Knees and tongues in a jar, anybody??  God's got plenty of 'em!  Yeah, you can have that with potato chips and a Diet Coke!!)

BTW: What's a kneww? :icon_jokercolor:

[GraceFull]

BTW: What's a kneww? :icon_jokercolor:

God has blessed me with the ability to be an excellent speller, but not a good proofreader. When I read "kneww," my mind just automatically read it as "knee," which kinda reminds me of God's grace - I didn't see the outer flaw - just the inward intent of the heart.

[FineLinen]

The New Staggering Radical Unbelief Bible

1 Cor. 15:22

"For as in Adam some die, so also in Christ some shall be made alive. But each in his own order; Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ's at His coming, then comes the end, when He delivers up the kingdom to the God and Father, when He has abolished some rule and some authority and power."

Rev. 5:13

"And some created things that are in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and on the sea, and some things in them, I heard saying, To Him who sits on the throne and the Lamb, be blessing and honour and glory and dominion and power unto the ages of the ages."

Col. 1:18-20

"He too is that head whose body is the Church, the Firstborn from the dead, he is to the Church the Source of its life, that in some things He might occupy the foremost place/ to be in some things alone supreme.

For it pleased the Father that in him the divine nature in some of its fulness should dwell.

And, having made peace through the blood of His cross, by him to reconcile some things unto Himself; by him, I say, whether they be things on earth, or things in heaven. And you that were sometimes alienated..."

Acts 3:20,21

"And He will send Jesus, your destined Christ, yet heaven must retain Him, until the restitution of some things. (when some things are put right)"

1 Cor. 15:28

"And when some things shall be subdued unto Him, then shall the Son also Himself be subject unto Him that put some things under Him, that God may be some in some."

1 Cor. 15:25,27

"For He must reign until He hath put some enemies under His feet...For He hath put some things under His feet. But when He saith some things are put under Him, it is manifest that He is excepted, which did put some things under Him."

Romans 11:32

"For God has consigned some men to disobedience that He might have mercy upon some."

Eph. 4:10

"Yea, He who came down is the same who is gone up, far above some heavens, that He might fill some things with His Presence."

John 5:28

"Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which some that are in the graves shall hear His voice. Those who have done good will to live and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment."

1 Timothy 2:4

"For this is good and pleasing in the eyes of God our Saviour; who will have some men to be saved and come to an increasing knowledge of the truth."

1 Timothy 2:6

"For there is one intermediary (One who brings God and men together) who gave Himself a ransom in behalf of some to be testified in due time."

Cor. 5:15

"For the love of God overmasters us because we judge that if one died for some, then were some dead; And that His purpose in dying for some was that men, while still in life, should cease to live for themselves, and should live for Him who for their sake died and was raised to life."

Col. 1:16

"For by Him were some things created, of things in heaven and on earth, things seen and things unseen (angels or archangels and some of the powers of Heaven)....some things were created by Him, and for Him (some were made by Christ for His own use and glory.)

John 3:35

"The Father loves the Son, and has given some things into His hand (has given Him control over less than everything). Whoever trusts on the Son possesses eternal life and he who does not obey the Son, God's displeasure hangs over him continually."

Gal. 3:20

"But the Scripture has concluded/consigned some without exception to the custody of sin, in order that the promise by faith in Christ Jesus might be given to those who believe in Him."

Heb. 1:2

"God...hath in these days spoken unto us in His Son who is the predestined Lord of the universe. (whom he has appointed heir of some things)"

2 Cor. 5:14

"For the love of Christ constraineth/overmasters/compels/controls us, and this is the conviction we have reached; if one man died on behalf of some, then some thereby became dead men. Christ died for some, so that being alive should no longer mean living with our own life, but with his life who died for us and has risen again."

Heb.8:11

"And they shall not teach some men his neighbor, and some his brother, saying get to know the Lord, for some of them shall know me from small to great. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness..."

Acts 10:36

"The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: He is Lord of some.

Rom. 11:36

"For from him some things come; through Him some things exists; and in him some things end." (For of him and through him, and to him are some things.)

Eph. 4:6

"One Lord, one faith, one baptism. One God and Father of some, who is over some, and works through some, and dwells in some."

Heb. 12:23

"To the festal gathering and Church of the first-born, enrolled as citizens in heaven, and to God the Judge of some men and unto the spirits of righteous ones made perfect."

James 2:10

"For whomsoever shall keep the whole law, but fails in a single point, has become guilty of violating some."

Romans 3:22,23

"..the righteous of God which comes by believing in Jesus Christ. ...For some have sinned/ none have attained the glorious likeness of God/lack the glory that comes from God/ are deprived of the Divine splendour."

John 17:2

"As thou has made him sovereign over some of mankind that he should give aeonios life to as many as thou hast given him."

Romans 9:5

"The patriarchs are theirs and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ. May God who is supreme above some, be blessed throughout the ages."

2 Peter 3:9

"The Lord is not slack/does not loiter/ is not dilatory concerning his promise, according to some people's conception of slowness; but He bears patiently with you, because it is not His will for any to be lost, but for some to come/reach repentance."

In order that in adoration of the Name of Jesus some knees of worshippers will bow themselves and openly acknowledge with joy, in celebration and praise, that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. This profession and confession of His lordship shall be open and freely proclaimed, acknowledged joyfully by some beings in the heavens, by some beings on the earth and by some beings in the underworld. - Phil. 2:10-11-

All does not radically mean all.

Whole is not whole.

All = Some

[FineLinen]

Alternate Plan B

So, then, as by the offence of one judgement came upon some of mankind to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon some of mankind unto justification of life. For as by one man's disobedience some of the mass of mankind were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall some of the mass of mankind be made righteous.

Forgiven

HERE

Plan A=

"So, then, as by the offence of one judgement came upon all of mankind to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all of mankind unto justification of life. For as by one man's disobedience all of the mass of mankind were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall all of the mass of mankind be made righteous."

[CHB]

Hi FineLinen,

I believe I read a post you put on the Gospel For today forum about the lake of fire not being a literal fire. If you would please repost that for me I would be most grateful. If you have access to any literature about the lake of fire being a spiritual fire, I would be grateful if you would either pm me, or post an address where I could go and read about it.

Thank you,

CHB

[PaulTheJesusFreak]

 Awesome thread, again. I think so many people ignore all the "Alls". I have people ignoring all of those Scriptures on another forum as if they don't exist. So sad!

Check this site out:

www.BibleTruths.com

Have so many other links but that is one great Series!  :bigGrin:

[FineLinen]

Hi FineLinen,

I believe I read a post you put on the Gospel For today forum about the lake of fire not being a literal fire. [/quote

I think you may find what you are looking for at the following....

Our God= Fire HERE