As a joke I posted a Bill Weise YouTube clip.
This is the response I got: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4ue4RdpuO0
On an even funnier note I found: Minutes in Hell? L. Ray Smith
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3updz1KalQ&feature=related
I never thought I'd ever be able to laugh about this stuff.
Quote from: Brian on January 01, 2010, 05:46:55 AM
As a joke I posted a Bill Weise YouTube clip.
This is the response I got: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4ue4RdpuO0
On an even funnier note I found: Minutes in Hell? L. Ray Smith
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3updz1KalQ&feature=related
I never thought I'd ever be able to laugh about this stuff.
Thats all its good for friend.
I hope Ray posted those video's himself...
Quote from: WhiteWings on January 01, 2010, 12:18:47 PM
I hope Ray posted those video's himself...
The person speaking identifies himself as Ray.
Quote from: friendofmankind on January 01, 2010, 05:51:44 AM
Quote from: Brian on January 01, 2010, 05:46:55 AM
As a joke I posted a Bill Weise YouTube clip.
This is the response I got: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4ue4RdpuO0
On an even funnier note I found: Minutes in Hell? L. Ray Smith
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3updz1KalQ&feature=related
I never thought I'd ever be able to laugh about this stuff.
Thats all its good for friend.
For those of us who have overcome in Christ, yes it is.
I'm glad someone is debunking this nonsense ... however ... I can't laugh at it. I just can't find anything funny about an ongoing campaign to "put the fear" into God's message of love and offer of forgiveness and sweet fellowship to the human race. It's sick, just utterly sick.
I have laid naked in soul before the burning and penetrating gaze of my Master and only been bathed in absolute joy and awe as His REAL fire -- the beautiful purging, refining gaze of His eyes piercing and penetrating me, seeing through to the very depths and core of my being with a heart that held only purest LOVE -- cleansed the deepest fears and dark places inside me and drove away from surrounding me all the powers of darkness trying to swarm and consume me. Now, there's a fire I will gladly burn in for all eternity: the sweet cleansing flame of His love and His perfect and complete awareness of everything I am and everything HE intends to make of me.
But as for this heinous and monstrous caricature, depicting the Lover of my SOUL as a relentless salivating torturer? Despicable. I don't understand how anyone could actually know Him and still believe such things. I lived in hell when I was inhabited by demons for 26 years, and even there, because there is NOWHERE we can go where His Spirit is not (Psalm 139:7-8), some part of me could not fully part with the hope of one day being rescued by Him. Even when that hope TORTURED me I could not escape it. In fact I believe HE preserved me through it -- preserved the seed of His own truth in me, the seed of faith in Him which He had planted, the seed of everything He intended me to become, and preserved it faithfully through those torturous and confused years until such a time as He could bring it forth. That time is now.
But I find nothing funny about Him being painted as a terrorist and torture-chamber presidio.
Ray didnt really find it funny either, it was just his way of dealing with it. On his last video he continualy says how 'disgusted' he is with it. But laughing at such things can have a positive effect on people BRAINWASHED by such rubbish...When they see someone 'laughing' at how stupid and silly the notion of eternal torcher is BY AN ALL LOVING GOD, some of them stop and reconsider their beliefs.
That said, it IS NOT funny, but I believe that Ray got his point accross very well and did a lot of good with these videos.
I just had a message today on utube that Ray is very ill and taken a turn for the worst, i would ask anyone reading this right now to say a prayer for this man Ray, our brother in Christ.
Psalm 139:8
If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.
The biggest lie is not whether Hell exists in the afterlife or not, it is that it doesn't exist in this life. Did King David come back from the dead to make that statement--though I make my bed in hell....Did he die and rise from the dead? Or did he understand that Hell is in this life?
Watch all 12 parts of this documentary and tell me Hell doesn't exist, and that we couldn't turn Hell into a paradise of God if we all would just spend 23 minutes of our time thinking about and doing for others instead of spending those 23 minutes in Hell. Hell is real, it is here, it is now.
Ghosts of Rwanda
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xON22c7pZ6c&feature=PlayList&p=6660341BAE01BF62&index=0&playnext=1
We needed surgeons, nurses...it arrived in Rwanda within days. They came. Some people had to be changed because some people got crazy.
But, then you find other people, who are able to take risks, to do the very little things you can do, which are always miracles, yeah, do miracles. In such a context, it's the only way to do something.
--Phillip Guillard, Red Cross
Quote from: Molly on January 01, 2010, 06:17:21 PM
Psalm 139:8
If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.
The biggest lie is not whether Hell exists in the afterlife or not, it is that it doesn't exist in this life. Did King David come back from the dead to make that statement--though I make my bed in hell....Did he die and rise from the dead? Or did he understand that Hell is in this life?
Watch all 12 parts of this documentary and tell me Hell doesn't exist, and that we couldn't turn Hell into a paradise of God if we all would just spend 23 minutes of our time thinking about and doing for others instead of spending those 23 minutes in Hell. Hell is real, it is here, it is now.
Ghosts of Rwanda
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xON22c7pZ6c&feature=PlayList&p=6660341BAE01BF62&index=0&playnext=1
We needed surgeons, nurses...it arrived in Rwanda within days. They came. Some people had to be changed because some people got crazy.
But, then you find other people, who are able to take risks, to do the very little things you can do, which are always miracles, yeah, do miracles. In such a context, it's the only way to do something.
--Phillip Guillard, Red Cross
Molly that was really interesting, and i thank you for that, but i couldnt watch that video, i just couldnt, but it brought great strength to what you said. :HeartThrob:
Quote from: Brian on January 01, 2010, 05:20:15 PM
Quote from: WhiteWings on January 01, 2010, 12:18:47 PM
I hope Ray posted those video's himself...
The person speaking identifies himself as Ray.
Let me rephrase that: I hope he posted it himself and made the video recently.
http://bible-truths.com/
When I read about 20 lines from the top he's not able to spend time on video's (I think)
Maybe he is winning the battle?
Quote from: Molly on January 01, 2010, 06:17:21 PM
Psalm 139:8
If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.
The biggest lie is not whether Hell exists in the afterlife or not, it is that it doesn't exist in this life. Did King David come back from the dead to make that statement--though I make my bed in hell....Did he die and rise from the dead? Or did he understand that Hell is in this life?
Watch all 12 parts of this documentary and tell me Hell doesn't exist, and that we couldn't turn Hell into a paradise of God if we all would just spend 23 minutes of our time thinking about and doing for others instead of spending those 23 minutes in Hell. Hell is real, it is here, it is now.
Molly I really like what you shared here.
Quote from: MoriahConqueringWind on January 01, 2010, 05:32:18 PM
I'm glad someone is debunking this nonsense ... however ... I can't laugh at it. I just can't find anything funny about an ongoing campaign to "put the fear" into God's message of love and offer of forgiveness and sweet fellowship to the human race. It's sick, just utterly sick.
For me it means laughing at something that terrified me into having a clinical nervous breakdown. Not really funny, but something to laugh at in a sense of victory in overcoming through Christ.
Quote from: WhiteWings on January 01, 2010, 07:05:29 PM
Quote from: Brian on January 01, 2010, 05:20:15 PM
Quote from: WhiteWings on January 01, 2010, 12:18:47 PM
I hope Ray posted those video's himself...
The person speaking identifies himself as Ray.
Let me rephrase that: I hope he posted it himself and made the video recently.
http://bible-truths.com/
When I read about 20 lines from the top he's not able to spend time on video's (I think)
Maybe he is winning the battle?
Hopefully. I'm really enjoying seeing him and hearing him. I see he doesn't have horns and hooves as one would expect from a heretic of that caliber.