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Apologetics - Universal Reconciliation => Hellbusters Hallow => Topic started by: marie glen on February 17, 2019, 05:59:23 PM

Title: The fiery furnace is not hell but is at His return
Post by: marie glen on February 17, 2019, 05:59:23 PM
I often think about the parable of the wheat and tares - I forgot about the one about the fishes:

Matthew 13:27-30 & ..38-43

27 So the servants of the owner came and said to him, 'Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?' 28 He said to them, 'An enemy has done this.' ["death through Adam] The servants said to him, 'Do you want us then to go and gather them up?' 29 But he said, 'No, lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, "First gather together the tares [to Armageddon?] and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn." ...the harvest is the end of the age, (Rev.14) and the reapers are the angels. 40 Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of this age. 41 The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, 42 and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears to hear, let him hear!

I forgot about the related parable of the fishes:

Matthew 13:47-50

47 "Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a dragnet that was cast into the sea and gathered some of every kind, 48 which, when it was full, they drew to shore; and they sat down and gathered the good into vessels, but threw the bad away. 49 So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just, 50 and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

Since I believe the Bible interprets the Bible, I did a word search for "furnace"
- https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=furnace&qs_version=NKJV&limit=50

Which I found very intersting.. There were 30 verses listed.. I copy/pasted 27:

Genesis 19:28 Then he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the land of the plain; and he saw, and behold, the smoke of the land which went up like the smoke of a furnace. (cross-ref. Jude 7?)

Exodus 9:8 [ The Sixth Plague: Boils ] So the Lord said to Moses and Aaron, "Take for yourselves handfuls of ashes from a furnace, and let Moses scatter it toward the heavens in the sight of Pharaoh.

Exodus 9:10 Then they took ashes from the furnace and stood before Pharaoh, and Moses scattered them toward heaven. And they caused boils that break out in sores on man and beast. (Cross ref. boils, Book of Rev.16:11?)

Exodus 19:18 Now Mount Sinai was completely in smoke, because the Lord descended upon it in fire. Its smoke ascended like the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mountain quaked greatly.

Deuteronomy 4:20 But the Lord has taken you and brought you out of the iron furnace, out of Egypt, to be His people, an inheritance, as you are this day.

1 Kings 8:51 (for they are Your people and Your inheritance, whom You brought out of Egypt, out of the iron furnace),

Psalm 12:6 The words of the Lord are pure words, Like silver tried in a furnace of earth, Purified seven times.

Proverbs 17:3 The refining pot is for silver and the furnace for gold, But the Lord tests the hearts.

Proverbs 27:21 The refining pot is for silver and the furnace for gold, And a man is valued by what others say of him.

Isaiah 31:9 He shall cross over to his stronghold for fear, And his princes shall be afraid of the banner," Says the Lord, Whose fire is in Zion And whose furnace is in Jerusalem.

Isaiah 48:10 Behold, I have refined you, but not as silver; I have tested you in the furnace of affliction.

Ezekiel 22:18 "Son of man, the house of Israel has become dross to Me; they are all bronze, tin, iron, and lead, in the midst of a furnace; they have become dross from silver.

Ezekiel 22:20 As men gather silver, bronze, iron, lead, and tin into the midst of a furnace, to blow fire on it, to melt it; so I will gather you in My anger and in My fury, and I will leave you there and melt you.

Ezekiel 22:22 As silver is melted in the midst of a furnace, so shall you be melted in its midst; then you shall know that I, the Lord, have poured out My fury on you.' "

Nebuchadnezzar & Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego -
Daniel 3:15 Now if you are ready at the time you hear the sound of the horn, flute, harp, lyre, and psaltery, in symphony with all kinds of music, and you fall down and worship the image which I have made, good! But if you do not worship, you shall be cast immediately into the midst of a burning fiery furnace. And who is the god who will deliver you from my hands?"

Daniel 3:17 If that is the case, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and He will deliver us from your hand, O king. (cross.ref, Rev 7, the sun nor heat shall smite tham..?)

Daniel 3:19 [ Saved in Fiery Trial ] Then Nebuchadnezzar was full of fury, and the expression on his face changed toward Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego. He spoke and commanded that they heat the furnace seven times more than it was usually heated.

Daniel 3:20 And he commanded certain mighty men of valor who were in his army to bind Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego, and cast them into the burning fiery furnace.

Daniel 3:21 Then these men were bound in their coats, their trousers, their turbans, and their other garments, and were cast into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.

Daniel 3:22 Therefore, because the king's command was urgent, and the furnace exceedingly hot, the flame of the fire killed those men who took up Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego.

Daniel 3:23 And these three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego, fell down bound into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.

Daniel 3:26 [ Nebuchadnezzar Praises God ] Then Nebuchadnezzar went near the mouth of the burning fiery furnace and spoke, saying, "Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego, servants of the Most High God, come out, and come here." Then Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego came from the midst of the fire.

Matthew 13:42 and will cast them(tares) into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Matthew 13:50 and (the fish) cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

Revelation 1:15 His feet were like fine brass, as if refined in a furnace, and His voice as the sound of many waters;

Revelation 9:2 And he opened the bottomless pit, and smoke arose out of the pit like the smoke of a great furnace. So the sun and the air were darkened because of the smoke of the pit. (smoke, next search?)
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Ezekeil 22:31 Therefore I have poured out My indignation on them; I have consumed them with the fire of My wrath; and I have recompensed their deeds on their own heads," says the Lord God.
Title: Re: The fiery furnace is not hell but is at His return
Post by: sheila on February 17, 2019, 06:45:09 PM
 :2c:those in captivity to Babylons false imageof 'God' truly have passed through the fire..refusing to bow down to a work of men's hands

and not the TRUE God..whom they worship[another's they will not hear[follow] they hear the call to COME OUT.and come forth unscathed

Lot is delivered from Sodom and Gomorrah...Israel delivered from the prince of this world, from Babylon,from Assyria thejewsfrom

Haman....etc..No weaponformed againstyou shallprevail...over all the power ofthe adversary.that there be men,nations,Kings,governments

as a vessel of evil contrast[which satan uses for evil]which is used in the fiery trials we expierence while in this present world is true. :girlheart:
Title: Re: The fiery furnace is not hell but is at His return
Post by: rosered on February 17, 2019, 06:50:44 PM


      Love all the thoughts and scriptures sistas   !!   :dsunny: :HeartThrob: 
Title: Re: The fiery furnace is not hell but is at His return
Post by: sheila on February 17, 2019, 07:15:46 PM
...and Job's case..and all the power of the adversary that was brought against him..afflictions loss of children,robbery of material wealth

false-comforter friends that accused and a wife that come to loathe you..all destroyed. :2c:
Title: Re: The fiery furnace is not hell but is at His return
Post by: sheila on February 17, 2019, 07:27:15 PM
Satan will even use your own faimily[body] againstyou..through pain and temptations erronous thoughts that may seem wise/right whose

end is death,ruin,folly,destruction.WE NEED A SAVIOUR TO DELIVER US ALL FROM THE WICKED ONE... :2c: