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What do you think of Colossians 1:20-23?:)

Ross

G'day:
IMO this point in verse 23 is major: if you continue in the faith.
For me this is where I found the best answer about the whole process. I also found positive reasons for the process which encompasses all mankind.
If I rely on my faith I always question have I believed enough to be saved?
But the truth about that faith required is actually Christ's faith ,not mine,  released that fear of failure.
Peter was walking on water and looking at Christ ' when he looked elsewhere he sank.
Christ is the author of our faith ,so looking at anything else becomes personal effort.
Romans 10:3 points out about the way that Jews were trying to develop their own program and efforts.
Col 1:21 makes the observation about personal, wicked work and thinking being what occurs when not centred on Christ.
Again, this makes the significance to the work of Christ as being the only thing that matters so why look anywhere else?
Hopefully this is encouraging .
Fellow brother in Christ

ghost kid

Quote from: Ross on January 18, 2023, 03:56:57 AM
G'day:
IMO this point in verse 23 is major: if you continue in the faith.
For me this is where I found the best answer about the whole process. I also found positive reasons for the process which encompasses all mankind.
If I rely on my faith I always question have I believed enough to be saved?
But the truth about that faith required is actually Christ's faith ,not mine,  released that fear of failure.
Peter was walking on water and looking at Christ ' when he looked elsewhere he sank.
Christ is the author of our faith ,so looking at anything else becomes personal effort.
Romans 10:3 points out about the way that Jews were trying to develop their own program and efforts.
Col 1:21 makes the observation about personal, wicked work and thinking being what occurs when not centred on Christ.
Again, this makes the significance to the work of Christ as being the only thing that matters so why look anywhere else?
Hopefully this is encouraging .

What does everybody else think?

Song

Believe in Jesus Christ and be saved, thus all people will believe in Christ Jesus and go to Heaven.





Hi Ghost Kid. Here are my thoughts on the verse Colossians 1:20-23



and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

This show us that if we have even the smallest amount of faith alone in Christ?s sacrifice on the cross, His blood washes us of all our sins permanently. Because the Holy Spirit begins to dwell inside us permanently as soon as we believe, and will never leave! And all things were reconciled which shows not only is it possible for all of us to be saved by believing in Jesus Christ, but it?s guaranteed that all things on Earth, all things in Heaven, everyone everywhere will become believers in Christ Jesus and be saved permanently and go to Heaven, that is guaranteed!



21 Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of[a] your evil behavior.

Notice the word once? It tells us that that alienation was only one time! We were alienated because of sin, our evil behaviour, but after being washed clean by Jesus? blood, we are free of sin and no longer alienated!

It also shows a change in perspective. As sinners, people have this fear and worry of a God that will punish them, but perfect love casts out fear, and when we believe in Christ with faith alone to wash away our sins, we no longer avoid evil behaviour because of the fear of punishment, but rather because of our love of God! We?ll stumble, fall, seven times a day sometimes, but since we?re already saved, we have a new attitude, a new belief. We recognize sin, and trust in Christ?s sacrifice to help us continually.



22 But now he has reconciled you by Christ?s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation?

Without blemish and free from accusation further shows how Christ?s blood from His physical body washes away all our sins.



https://www.biblehub.com/colossians/1-23.htm



23 if you continue in your faith, established and firm, and do not move from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant.



First off, we can?t lose our salvation. Once saved always saved, that?s the eternal security of every believer.



if

εἴ (ei)

Conjunction

Strong's 1487: If. A primary particle of conditionality; if, whether, that, etc.



?If? mentions conditionality, which can also mean a condition that?s permanent, like the condition of righteousness when you believe in Christ and are saved permanently.



you continue

ἐπιμένετε (epimenete)

Verb - Present Indicative Active - 2nd Person Plural

Strong's 1961: (a) I remain, tarry, (b) I remain in, persist in. From epi and meno; to stay over, i.e. Remain.



Then demonstrates that we are in the permanent condition of remaining in something.





in [your] faith,

πίστει (pistei)

Noun - Dative Feminine Singular

Strong's 4102: Faith, belief, trust, confidence; fidelity, faithfulness.



And this permanent condition came from our faith, singular, in Jesus Christ.



established

τεθεμελιωμένοι (tethemeliōmenoi)

Verb - Perfect Participle Middle or Passive - Nominative Masculine Plural

Strong's 2311: To found, lay the foundation (lit. and met.). From themelios; to lay a basis for, i.e. erect, or consolidate.



Of course, we can?t lay this foundation ourselves. Who layed the foundation? Who?s the cornerstone of your beliefs? It?s Jesus Christ! He layed the only possible foundation for salvation by dying on the cross and resurrecting 3 days later. Thus, if we have even the smallest amount of trust in that sacrifice, we are permanently saved because that foundation is Jesus Christ and He never fails because Jesus is love and

1 Corinthians 13:8 Love never fails!

Love = Jesus

Love never fails = Jesus never fails.





https://jesus-saves-all.com/
- Harold Samson(g)
I will praise the name of God with song Psalm 69:30

Ross

 :dsunny:
Gal 3;3 " Having made a beginning in Spirit are you now to be made complete by the flesh?"

Gal 5;1 " Christ has made you free, therefore stand firm and do not be subjected again to a yoke of slavery."

Eph 4;17-23 " Now this I testify in the Lord,
                      that you are no longer to live as the nations walk- in the vanity of their minds, being shrouded in darkness in their
                      understanding, separated from the life of God-
                      by reason of the ignorance that exists in them by reason of their hearts being turned to stone,
                      who indeed having lost all feeling of shame have delivered themselves up with outrageous behavior to making
                      a trade of all impurity with greed.
                     However, that is not the way you learned the Christ;
                      if at least you have heard and you have been taught in Him- even as the truth is in Jesus -
                     as regards your former behavior-

                     that you were to strip off the old man who corrupts himself according to his deceitful covetings,
                     and were to be getting young again in the spirit of your mind, "

Paul seemed to be recognizing that some would claim to know Jesus, but were still trying to keep up their own efforts.

Col 1;23 " If surely you are remaining to the belief having been founded and settled and not being moved away from the
                expectation of the gospel..."
The parable of the seed and the sower seems to be like this analogy.
The seed on the stony ground- those who hear yet are easily distracted.
The seed among the weeds like those in the current church environment- choked by all sorts of things pleasing to the ears.
The seed on the good ground those who take roots and are fed the truth to grow in wisdom and knowledge in the ground which is
cared for by Christ.

We will be all saved, just many will not be the first fruit, yet will be harvested at a later time when the rest of the crop is fully ripened.






Fellow brother in Christ