everyone,
I think less than a handful of people on this forum will get this. I may be wrong, some might surprise me. C'mon guys surprise me. :bgdance:
:cloud9: Genesis 1....... :winkgrin: Blessings...
cardinal,
don't run off. where in Genesis 1? give chapter and verse. Is that you final answer?
The first of the 8 Gospels spoken of in the kjv is spoken of in
1 . The Gospel which God brought before to Abraham
Gen 12:3 and Gal 3:8 explains it.
lee,
the gospel of Jesus, Lee. Is that your final answer.
:cloud9: Gen. 1:1 begins it...........In the BEGINNING (word here in Hebrew means FIRSTFRUITS)........so reading it with that understanding, it reads, "In the firstfruits, God created the heaven and the earth."
Now knowing that heaven is Spirit, and earth is symbolically either flesh or soulish man, go on to see for yourself..........Blessings.....
PS. Your post to Lee D. was good on being "born again"........but look that up, because it actually means, "born from above". :thumbsup:
cardinal,
Thanks. Right, Regeneration and born again are virtually the same thing.. being born from above or reborn. :thumbsup:
Is that your final answer cardinal?
Genesis 3:15, known in theology as the proto evangelion. Technically, you could go as far back as Genesis 1:26 or Genesis 1:1 though, but Genesis 3:15 is usually the most accepted answer to this question.
Quote from: lee100 on August 23, 2009, 11:05:36 PM
cardinal,
Thanks. Right, Regeneration and born again are virtually the same thing.. being born from above or reborn. :thumbsup:
Is that your final answer cardinal?
:cloud9: Yep. :happygrin: Blessings.....
St. Paul, however, talks about these things being before the beginning of the world or before the beginning of time, which is likely a more precise answer than going to Genesis, since it would have been after that time period, if you go with a "before the world began" mistranslation rather than a before the beginning of the time periods spoken of in Daniel 9 or before the Moedim (appointments/feasts) set up by the Lord that spoke of these things. So, in one sense, if we interpret St. Paul as saying "before the beginning of time," which is a more precise translation, then it could be a reference back to Genesis 3:15. If we interpret before the beginning of the world, that could still be Genesis since 2Peter 3 talks about "the world that then was," as in the preflood world. But statements in Job and elsewhere give credence to the often interpretation of St. Paul as saying before this universe was.
martin,
Which is it? Stick to one final answer.
I "think" it was when Abrum believed God, was the beginning of faith.
everyone,
Well done Martin. Gen 3:15.
Quote from: Cardinal on August 23, 2009, 10:59:28 PM
:cloud9: Gen. 1:1 begins it...........In the BEGINNING (word here in Hebrew means FIRSTFRUITS)........so reading it with that understanding, it reads, "In the firstfruits, God created the heaven and the earth."
Now knowing that heaven is Spirit, and earth is symbolically either flesh or soulish man, go on to see for yourself..........Blessings.....
PS. Your post to Lee D. was good on being "born again"........but look that up, because it actually means, "born from above". :thumbsup:
Awesome Cardinal, thanks.
(note: my bold)