Somebody used to mention a concept of - wheel within a wheel - or wheels within wheels.. In God?s patterning? I mention it because I think the scriptures give us an outline of this work/adminstration/program of God..
As in an outline?
The week plus 1 millennium, see Rev.20, but which is portrayed as crests of waves w/o much of the in between. And within the week plus 1, a second outline - the holy days of Lev.23, as the 1st and 2nd advents. Key phrase ?aionion kolasis? / eonian korrection / age of correction, Mt.25:46 w/ Jn5:28,29.
Rev.21:5,3 ? Behold! I make all (pas) new! God will now TABERNACLE with mankind.
Is.11:7 ? The lion will eat straw, the bear will graze with the cow.
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Hi Marie !
Good to hear from you again! Missing everyone again and talking about the things of God.
I love it that you want to know, so do I sis! I have thought of it before and now again.
Ezekiel's vision of the wheels within the wheels .. Ezekiel 1 1-48
I agree it is trying to understand with words what seems like Gods working by His Holy Spirit[presence]
God is Light and God is Spirit and unchanging and yet things change all around Him , yet He never does .
God is Love and also described as a consuming fire
We have some descriptive natures to His Word /Truth ,but it is only by His ''Holy '' Spirit, we even begin to understand any of it.
Holy is how no evil can even be in His presence without being dissolved .
Wheels within the wheels are the work of God being manifested and could be how the presence of Gods working eliminates even scatters the darkness /evil with Light causing good to come out from nothingness. and His work'' presence'' keeps His Light where no darkness /evil can be present but preserved. unchanging.
They were identical wheels, sparkling like diamonds in the sun. It looked like they were wheels within wheels, like a gyroscope.
A gyroscope (from Ancient Greek γῦρος gŷros 'round' and σκοπέω skop?ō 'to look') is a device used for measuring or maintaining orientation and angular velocity.
It is a spinning wheel or disc in which the axis of rotation (spin axis) is free to assume any orientation by itself.
When rotating, the orientation of this axis is unaffected by tilting or rotation of the mounting, due to the conservation of angular momentum.
I have considered His presence as ''holding it all together '' But if Gods presence leaves, it is dissolved or left for perishing for lack of a better word or understanding .
It corrupts by its own design.
God separates things by His presence. what remains is of Himself and what is not will dissolve or perish in the using of it.
Making it nothing. like death makes things corruptible.
ONLY GOD can make something out of nothing and make anything remain by His own substance.
Words challenge us, to help us understand anything. But its HIS works that kind of force/power making LIFE happen. That HE IS and ONLY. Wisdom / GOD
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Something the scriptures say, that makes me realize the end when it is near, is when He will withdraw His presence and everything will ''collapse'' just in that moment. So, Gods WORD will be true and everyone will finally realize and when Jesus returns will He find faith on the earth?
it's our faith in Him and His working that keeps us all safe for now.
Wheel within wheel: interesting similarity within incredible engineering, like a watch for instance- many little cogs/wheels, which work at different rates and directions yet are precise in the outcome.
Vehicles drive along at varying speeds and loads, yet they too have wheels of different sizes and forms.
History has many different events but great similarity of motive/objective but seem to repeat over and over.
Ecclesiastes points this out.
IMO this seems to be like this so many people and generations go through problems and ethical issues to learn about the depth of creation and perceive the system necessary for true equality along with mutual respect for positive outcomes.
Our current state of being has selfish ambition, superiority, lust, pride,... Christ gave the demonstration that doesn't show that sort of behaviour and values as how we should live. His wheels within wheels are working to head us in the right direction empowered by His power and love.
Quote from: Ross on December 18, 2025, 01:09:43 AM
Wheel within wheel: interesting similarity within incredible engineering, like a watch for instance- many little cogs/wheels, which work at different rates and directions yet are precise in the outcome.
Vehicles drive along at varying speeds and loads, yet they too have wheels of different sizes and forms.
History has many different events but great similarity of motive/objective but seem to repeat over and over.
Ecclesiastes points this out.
IMO this seems to be like this so many people and generations go through problems and ethical issues to learn about the depth of creation and perceive the system necessary for true equality along with mutual respect for positive outcomes.
Our current state of being has selfish ambition, superiority, lust, pride,... Christ gave the demonstration that doesn't show that sort of behaviour and values as how we should live. His wheels within wheels are working to head us in the right direction empowered by His power and love.
This is a beautiful answer Ross
Thank you .
Yes it is true in Word and in deed That ''all things'' work together for the good of those whom love the Lord and are called according to His purpose .
Seems evil has its purpose to change us for the short time we are exposed to it. 70 years and 80 by Gods strength working in mankind.
Even 1000 years is only one day in Gods sight :HeartThrob:
Getting this perspective has to be taught by the Holy Spirit and His Word.
Like seeing the forest a bigger picture in your mind's eye that just seeing the trees, or men as trees walking.
Adam experienced evil for 930 years while being flesh and blood, I considered he never knew evil but more of on a personal level, and experiences ,
like now we have all this evil at our fingertips and see massive evil working in the world compared to how it was, the increase is very much heavier since knowledge has increased.
The Word of God tells us so and so it is.
Insightful posts. Thanks, Marie glen, Rosered and Ross :banana:
Quote from: joeteekay on December 19, 2025, 02:48:44 AM
Insightful posts. Thanks, Marie glen, Rosered and Ross :banana:
God our Holy Father bless you with more of Him though our Lord Jesus Christ, the mercy of Our Father expressed to us by His living Word and Living Spirit of truth to set us free
love always in Him
This hunger and thirst for His righteousness is a glorious work of God's doing and am ever so thankful :dsunny: :HeartThrob: