If Im correct, both John Calvin and Martin Luther, along with other Catholic and Protestant theologians. The most Pessimistic Catholics I am aware of are followers of St. Augustine. Plus, most of the Fire and brimstone Pessimistic Denominations I believe can be traced back to Calvinistic Ideas.
Bingo, you win the priz :icon_flower:
That why if you read the book
Christ Triumphant by Thomas Allin sold at tentmaker or www.concordant.org it has mostly all the history of the above , pros and cons.
Lee Damboise II
QuoteSon of a pagan father and Christian mother, Augustine grew up knowing the truth of the gospel, but led his own life, his father taking delight in his son's sexual escapades.
QuoteAugustine couldn't read Greek!
QuoteThis means that Augustine was not able to understand what Paul or Peter or John wrote, without relying on the sayso a translator. Which Augustine did. Augustine relied on the translation of his close ally, Jerome of Palestine. Jerome was the man who translated the Bible from the Hebrew and Greek, into Latin. Unfortunately, Jerome was an extremely biased, didactic theologian, and in at least one theological area, that of justification, made an unfortunate translation that has affected the Church ever since.
http://www.gospeltruth.net/aug/sinsofaug.htm
http://thejeromeconspiracy.com/
Quote from: Lee Damboise on January 30, 2010, 10:06:38 AM
That why if you read the book
Christ Triumphant by Thomas Allin sold at tentmaker or www.concordant.org it has mostly all the history of the above , pros and cons.
Freebie edition: http://www.tentmaker.org/books/ChristTriumphant.htm