What type of death was Apostle Paul talking about?

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happycheeks

for the wages of the sin is death, and the gift of God is life age-during in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 6:23

I was wondering what type of death it is. I done some research and saw it could mean physical or spiritual death. I don't believe it's eternal hell. Could this death be physical? As sin has consequences for example, drinking too much. If the person kept on drinking heavily, they could end up dead.  :dontknow: Or maybe it's the death of our soul. But we are immortal souls, so it can't mean that. I did watch a video where a girl explained people could live to 1,000 or 100 years. They might have been physically immortal. Yes, sounds crazy.  For example, there was a man in the bible who lived to 100. I think his name was Abraham, I'm not sure. But anyway, we have sinned so we can't live for amount of years and this caused death, physical death.

What are your thoughts?  :Chinscratch:

shawn

The wages of sin are physical (literal) and spiritual death (figurative). 

Sin causes separation, guilt and shame which inhibit our walk with Christ.  Sin can bring about changes within us that can harden us.  This hardening can cause us to not seek the face of God.  Without a relationship with God, we are considered dead.

This verse certainly doesn't support eternally burning, or even eternal separation.  It is merely a cause and effect statement.  If you do this, it can lead to this...cause...effect.

In my line of work we call this spiritual bankruptcy.  Sometimes people make the mistake when looking at UR that many of us are soft on sin, or we negate the consequences of sin.  The Bible is clear...sin leads to death.  There are consequences to our choices.  We just don't believe those consequences are eternal or punative in nature.

WhiteWings

Welcome back HC.

I think the first question that should be answer is:

How many people will be resurrected if Jesus had NOT died on the cross?

1] Everyone?
2] Only the saints?
3] Nobody?
4] Some other number?


I think option 3 - Nobody.
Jesus is the firstfruit. But He can't be if He wouldn't have died.
But in that case the wages of sin are still death. Physical death.
Also: Jesus doesn't save from death but out of death.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Ross

2 Cor 4;7-11 " We have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the surpassing greatness of the power may be of God and NOT FROM OURSELVES:
pressed hard on every side but not hemmed in,
without a way but not without a by-way,
pursued but not abandoned,
thrown down but not destroyed,
at all times bearing about in our body the putting to death of Jesus in order that the LIFE of Jesus may also be manifest in our body,
for we the lving are evermore being delivered to death for Jesus sake, in order that the life of Jesus may be made manifest in our mortal flesh."
Fellow brother in Christ

jabcat

The oldest known manuscripts agree with each other 99% of the time.  The scriptures, accurately translated, Spirit revealed - reliable.   Looking unto Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith.  Heb. 12:2

Ross

You are welcome.
2 Cor 5;14-16 " For the love of Christ constrains us;
having judged this-
that ONE died on behalf of ALL, hence they ALL died;
and He deid in behalf of ALL in order that they who live should no longer live for themselves but for Him who died and rose again in their behalf.  So that henceforth we know no one after the flesh.
If we have even been gaining a knowledge of Christ after the flesh,now, on the contrary, are we no longer gaining it, so that if any one is in Christ there is a NEW CREATION, the old things have passed away, lo they have become new!
Moreover, ALL THE THINGS ARE OF GOD, WhO HAS reconciled US to HIMSELF THROUGH JESUS CHRIST."
Fellow brother in Christ