Do we go live in a spiritual rhealm forever, or do we come back to earth to live after the cleansing of fire?
What is this bodily ressurection supposed to be like?
Just walk outside and take a look... we have already gone through it.
Quote from: Universalist Catholic on February 04, 2010, 11:28:58 PM
Do we go live in a spiritual rhealm forever,
We don't "GO" any
where... :mshock:
Earth
IS a
spiritual entity, and we currently observe that entity with encumbered (and blind) EYES of FLESH... :idea2:
ALL things are "
MADE" by the
WORD --
John 1:3 -- the
WORD is a SPIRITUAL entity and, ...the
WORD does NOT CHANGE --
Heb 13:8 -- so it is our current CARNAL OBSERVATION of "
made" that should be called into "SPIRITUAL" question... :dontknow:
It is my personal observation that because GOD nor His
WORD ever "changes" that ALL that is a portion of GOD and His
WORD, are REVEALED and NOT "
made" as is "conventionally" understood. IOW all that is "made" was already THERE, just UNREVEALED...
WE are the LIVING KNOWLEDGE of Good and Evil... as LIVES in the HEART of
YHVH God --
Gen 3:22As one studies the
WORD of God... things that are ALWAYS present within
IT... and might have been "read" a hundred times before... in a moment of enlightenment (twinkling of an EYE), are SEEN, ...and take upon a meaning that was NOT previously KNOWN by the reader!
This is the process of TRUTH which is CREATING FREEDOM in the heart of the one beholding and seeking in the
WORD. The TRUTH was sitting there in the
WORD, ALL ALONG... but was just previously UNREVEALED to the one, who was reading it. :Chinscratch:
In this life (physical life), we busily make CARNAL observation of the entity [earth]... and because the earth is within GOD, and HE never changes --
Mal 3:6 -- and
ALL is within Him -- it is our OBSERVATION of the earth that is lacking vision, not the entity we attempt to [blindly] observe...
Acts 17:28 --
for IN HIM, we live and move and HAVE our BEING...Quote from: Universalist Catholic on February 04, 2010, 11:28:58 PMor do we come back to earth to live after the cleansing of fire?
The
WORD does not relate "
PHYSICAL" destinations... It
REVEALS SPIRITUAL reality.
This life we live within the PHYSICAL is amidst the -- "CLEANSING FIRE" -- UC... for the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL (one knowledge) is made
KNOWN within our PHYSICAL observation and interaction with
IT... It is within
EXPERIENCE that we truly, ...come to
KNOW. :nod:
KNOWLEDGE is NOT just "INFORMATION"... it is INFORMATION applied EXPERIENTIALLY that produces
KNOWLEDGE...
EXAMPLE --- a woman does not
KNOW what having a baby encompasses until she, via EXPERIENCE, ...HAS a BABY... She can read all the books she can get her hands on, and thereby gain INFORMATION concerning childbirth, but until she EXPERIENCES having a baby (information applied to experience), she does not
KNOW ...childbirth! :mshock:
Same with driving a vehicle (or anything else for that matter)... you can read a 1000 books about driving a vehicle. But after reading the last one, it does not mean that (after reading all those books), you now ...
KNOW how to DRIVE. :laugh: -- though you have gained INSIGHT to it, ...it is the
experience of actually negotiating the vehicle, that is the crowning element of
KNOWLEDGE.
Quote from: Universalist Catholic on February 04, 2010, 11:28:58 PMWhat is this bodily ressurection supposed to be like?
"Bodily resurrection" is the RETURN to our ORIGIN -- from this realm...
Luke 15:11-32 -- the "LOST" Son (which includes all of us), RETURNS to the realm from which he emerged from the experience of the -- WASTE of life within his (our) EXPERIENCE of the indulgence (interaction) of EVIL...
We are the BODY of
CHRIST, UC... The body (which always
IS) is gaining the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL (one by one) -- only KNOWN by (and contained
IN) the
HEAD (
YHVH and His
WORD)
IOW -- one by one, we come back to OURSELVES and our PLACE in the BODY of our FATHER, and His SON...
In order to understand this, one must REJECT (die to) the acknowledgement of him/herself (and his/her "physical body")... to gain the SPIRITUAL understanding of who and what one really,
IS. Which is the "
BODY" of the
WORD, which is
CHRIST... :boyheart:
The "BODY" of
CHRIST is a
POPULATION...
NOT (as the carnal Christian mind envisions) -- a [divine] arm, [divine] leg, [divine] toenail, [divine] tooth, [divine] mole, [divine] armpit, etc...
The "BODY" of
CHRIST, is the
ENTITY composed of the HARMONY of ALL... which when COMPLETELY assembled, amount to the TOTAL that LOVE
IS...
Another somewhat feeble --
EXAMPLE --
The OCEAN is made of uncountable (seemingly insignificant) drops of water, whom
together equal the IMMENSE entity known as the OCEAN... without even ONE of the drops of water, the OCEAN is incomplete, and only a "partial" OCEAN... Only when the OCEAN contains ALL of its ORIGINAL drops, is it
COMPLETE.
...willieH :HeartThrob:
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"Faith doesn't end with knowledge, but it does begin with experience."
WillieH, excellent, excellent post.
Stuff like this keeps me coming back again and again.
:thumbsup: