Those who believe in exclusion.

[Paul Hazelwood]

If you believe in a doctrine that even hints that there is even one human being that may not enter the kingdom you have no way of assuring yourself that you have avoided damnation or in the anhillation sense, torture before non existance.   They ignore every piece of advise they give others.

They stand as if they have been chosen by God to preach the truth and that could be true, but a God such as that does not have to save your soul just because you do his work.

Mt 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

Mt 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.


The key here is "wonderful works"  this passage proves that these workers of iniquity did indeed do Gods work but in the end this did not get them into the kingdom even after going around doing these things in Jesus name.

See, I do not believe this is actually about eternal damnation, but those who profess that it is when they speak against the UR message have no proof that it is not them.

Coglee, you may think you are chosen by God to be in the kingdom one day but actually the image of God that you believe in cannot be trusted.   There is no biblical proof that you are chosen or an elect.

zip, nada, none,  you can only say it with the empty rhetoric you accuse others of.   

There is nothing that promises you salvation with your doctrine, nothing at all.   Under the umbrella of your doctrine, it is not up to you, it is not up to you warning us, it is not up to your "Claim" that your chosen, it is not up to your belief, it is not up to anything you do.   So you cannot claim anything but what God may decide to do and under the exclusion doctrines,  he can decide to damn you to hell for all eternity and that's the only TRUTH that can be seen from your words.

[HartleyDamboiseII]

Paul it rubs me slightly the wrong way when I hear other UR's use the expression of entering the kingdom because I choose to believe that the kingdom applies only to the followers of Law and not Us in Grace.

Love almost all your writings

KINGDOM AND CHURCH
   There is a vast difference between the terms kingdom and church as used in the Scriptures.  Kingdom denotes a realm ruled by a king, or the territory, people, or sovereign power pertaining to it.  The word " church" is used for the Greek ek-klêsia, which denotes "a called-out company" such as the council in  the wilderness, called out of the nations of Israel Acts. 7:38; the Circumcision saints who were called out of the adulterous generation of Israel and followed the Lord ( Mat.16:18;18:17: Acts 5:11; and those "called out"  of all nations to be the body of Christ ( Eph. 1:22; 2:11-18; 3:3-7).  Christ said to the bride church (John 3:29 )—the " out-called"  Israelites who followed Him—Peter  and the eleven. " Fear not, little flocklet, seeing that your Father delights to give you the  kingdom" ( Luke 12: 32 ).  This Scripture definitely differentiates the church and the kingdom, therefore, let us heed the admonition of Scripture and distinguish these things that differ.

BRIDE AND BODY
   The confusion of the term bride and body in the Scriptures is another source of grave misunderstanding and spiritual loss in the revelation of God.  The bride speaks of the " called-out" saved Israelites, according to the flesh. (John 3:29 Mat. 10:5-7; Rom 15:8) , whom the Lord called "the little flocklet" ( Luke 12:32), who are designated by the Scriptures "a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation" (Ex19:5-6; Deut.7:6; 1 Peter 2:9-12), with an earthly sovereignty ( Dan. 7:22, 27; Rev.5: 9-10;20:6; 21:9-14), whose seed and name shall always abide ( Isa. 66:22 ).
   On the other hand, the body speaks of a "remnant according to the election of grace" out of Israel (Rom. 11:5 ), and Gentiles, saved and reconciled with God in a "joint body" (Eph.1:13-23 ; 3:6) in which both lose their  racial identity by  being made a new creation, in which there is neither Jew nor Greek, male nor female,( 1 Cor. 12:13; Gal. 3:27-28), a new humanity (Eph. 2:11-15;Col 3:9-11) with a heavenly allotment and citizenship( Eph.1:3; Phil. 3:20-21), for administering the affairs of the celestial or heavenly kingdom (2 Tim 4:18; 1 Cor 6:3; Eph. 2:6-7; 3:10-11 ).
John, a minister of the Circumcision ( Gal. 2:9-10, writes concerning the bride church (John 3: 29; Rev. 19:7; 21:9-14, while Paul, the apostle of the Gentiles (Rom.11:13 ) , writes for "the church which is His body" (Eph.1:22-23; Col. 1:24-25)  A thoughtful consideration of the differences in these two subjects will  reveal how important it is that they be clearly distinguished in both our study and teaching of the Scriptures