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Discussions Relating to Universal Reconciliation => Discussions on Universal Salvation => Topic started by: jabcat on March 31, 2011, 04:27:25 AM

Title: This Could Be Exciting News
Post by: jabcat on March 31, 2011, 04:27:25 AM
Ancient Books Uncovered in Jordan May Date to Start of Christianity - "may be more significant than the Dead Sea Scrolls".

If these are authentic, I'll be very interested to see how/if they reflect on UR!


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/03/30/ancient-books-uncovered-jordan/#ixzz1I8W2loSZ
Title: Re: This Could Be Exciting News
Post by: WhiteWings on March 31, 2011, 07:08:57 AM
Copper books should be in a much better state than the DSS. It took decades to translate the DSS. So even if they are in good condition it likely will take years before translatiosn are done.
How they reflect UR depends a lot on who made them. The DSS were written by a bunch of hyper Calvinists.
Title: Re: This Could Be Exciting News
Post by: Molly on March 31, 2011, 01:35:31 PM
I have a bad feeling about these= counterfeit.

Don't ask my why--Just the first thing that popped into my head when I heard about them.

PS I just read the article you posted, Jab.  I see the Israeli's are calling them forgeries.  Interesting.
Title: Re: This Could Be Exciting News
Post by: WhiteWings on March 31, 2011, 02:14:05 PM
http://www.scribd.com/doc/51540533/Lead-Plates-Press-Release
http://clayboy.co.uk/2011/03/staying-with-the-sceptics-about-jordans-lead-books-and-early-christian-writing/

The books being a forgery depends on how it fits ones believes :winkgrin:
Title: Re: This Could Be Exciting News
Post by: WhiteWings on March 31, 2011, 02:19:43 PM
contain text in Ancient Hebrew, most of which is in code.
---> Gonna be a long time until we see a translation I fear.
---> Why code?
.....
"It's talking about the coming of the messiah," he says.
"In the upper square we have the seven-branch menorah, which Jews were utterly forbidden to represent because it res
ided in the holiest place in the Temple in the presence of God.
....
Title: Re: This Could Be Exciting News
Post by: Molly on March 31, 2011, 03:02:43 PM
Quote from: wwWhy code?

from your link:

'Sealed books were used by early Christian writers as a code for secretteaching; they were heavily persecuted and needed to protect their knowledge. Until now, no such book has ever been found. The codices werediscovered in an area to which Christian refugees are known to have fled after the fall of Jerusalem in 70CE/AD, and where important documents from thesame period have previously been found. The existence of a significant,hidden collection of sealed codices is mentioned in the Christian Bible's Bookof Revelation and in other biblical books'
Title: Re: This Could Be Exciting News
Post by: WhiteWings on March 31, 2011, 03:13:12 PM
QuoteThe existence of a significant,hidden collection of sealed codices is mentioned in the Christian Bible's Bookof Revelation
Only in the TCB not in other translations. Did you write that down James?  :winkgrin:


QuoteBookof Revelation
Where?

YLTRev 20
12 and I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and scrolls were opened, and another scroll was opened, which is that of the life, and the dead were judged out of the things written in the scrolls--according to their works;

Whoops the end is near...
Title: Re: This Could Be Exciting News
Post by: Molly on March 31, 2011, 03:17:55 PM
Quote from: wwWhoops the end is near...

well, you know they may be playing out their anti-bible end times--killed the atlantic ocean last year, killing the pacific ocean this year [tunafish, anyone?]--
so this fits right in.

We'll have to wait for the anti-Christ to break the code.

4 I cried and cried because no one was found who was worthy to open the scroll or look inside.
--Rev 5

Title: Re: This Could Be Exciting News
Post by: CHB on March 31, 2011, 07:28:32 PM
Quote from: WhiteWings on March 31, 2011, 07:08:57 AM
Copper books should be in a much better state than the DSS. It took decades to translate the DSS. So even if they are in good condition it likely will take years before translatiosn are done.
How they reflect UR depends a lot on who made them. The DSS were written by a bunch of hyper Calvinists.

Who would more than likely have used copper to write on? I don't see anywhere in the Bible where it mentions anything about copper books. Usually it says scrolls. I do hope it turns out to be authentic and does give us more knowledge about things. I guess we will just have to wait and see. Hey, maybe it is one of the books of the Ten Commandments, they were written on stone? There were two sets of them and could be held in one hand.

CHB
Title: Re: This Could Be Exciting News
Post by: Mr.Irrelevant on March 31, 2011, 07:45:47 PM
Quote from: Molly on March 31, 2011, 01:35:31 PM
I have a bad feeling about these= counterfeit.

Don't ask my why--Just the first thing that popped into my head when I heard about them.

PS I just read the article you posted, Jab.  I see the Israeli's are calling them forgeries.  Interesting.

I agree Molly. They were smuggled into Israel by a beduin's father who found them years before.  Really? Sounds fishy at best.
Title: Re: This Could Be Exciting News
Post by: WhiteWings on March 31, 2011, 07:50:33 PM
CHB,

Some article state copper. Other lead. Yet other both.
The "Silver scrolls" are 2600 years old. Not really scrolls but tiny amulets with 1 verse each.
So if silver is used why not copper?

The books are (likely) not written by the Apostles. Perhaps it's more recent than all the other books.

They are not the ten commandents because there are 70 books with each 5-15 pages.
The 10 commandments were not encrypted.