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Title: Sodom will be restored?
Post by: sscoulter on March 12, 2009, 03:13:31 AM
Hello all,

Can somebody point me to the scripture where it says Sodom will be restored? I can't seem to find it, and I thouht sure I had seen it before.


Thanks,


S
Title: Re: Sodom will be restored?
Post by: Raggedy Anne on March 12, 2009, 03:59:53 AM
I think it is in chapter 16 of the book of Ezekiel.
Title: Re: Sodom will be restored?
Post by: sscoulter on March 12, 2009, 04:09:08 AM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Sodom will be restored?
Post by: tm55 on March 12, 2009, 04:58:50 AM
In case you're interested, here's what Christian Universalist A.P. Adams had to say, back in 1885, about Sodom's restoration:

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/SpiritOfTheWord/021Sodom.htm

Adams points out that Sodom is a unique situation in that they had no survivors.  Therefore, to say that Sodom will be restored (as Ezekiel 16:53-55 clearly does) carries a lot more weight than to say that, for instance, Egypt or Assyria will be restored.  It pretty much has to mean that the very individuals who died in God's fiery judgment of the city will be restored.  Which strongly suggests that all will ultimately be saved.

Title: Re: Sodom will be restored?
Post by: IceDash on March 12, 2009, 09:38:48 AM
but goromah sin't saved or restored...
Title: Re: Sodom will be restored?
Post by: WhiteWings on March 12, 2009, 10:10:36 AM
Quote from: IceDash on March 12, 2009, 09:38:48 AM
but goromah sin't saved or restored...

Would be odd if the other 4 cities were treated differently than Sodom....
Same sin, same punishment, same restoration.
Title: Re: Sodom will be restored?
Post by: sscoulter on March 12, 2009, 03:10:14 PM
So I was reading this passage which speaks of Sodom being restored, and I was doing so while being admittedly skeptical. It seems that it may be speaking figuratively, or so I thought. Then, I read on....

60"Nevertheless, I will remember My covenant with you in the days of your youth, and I will establish an everlasting covenant with you.

61"Then you will remember your ways and be ashamed when you receive your sisters, both your older and your younger; and I will give them to you as daughters, but not because of your covenant.

62"Thus I will establish My covenant with you, and you shall know that I am the LORD,

63so that you may remember and be ashamed and never open your mouth anymore because of your humiliation, when I have forgiven you for all that you have done," the Lord GOD declares.


Wow, wow my brothers. What an amazing God we serve!


Peace.


S

Title: Re: Sodom will be restored?
Post by: chuckt on March 12, 2009, 03:52:58 PM
Quote from: sscoulter on March 12, 2009, 03:10:14 PM
So I was reading this passage which speaks of Sodom being restored, and I was doing so while being admittedly skeptical. It seems that it may be speaking figuratively, or so I thought. Then, I read on....

60"Nevertheless, I will remember My covenant with you in the days of your youth, and I will establish an everlasting covenant with you.

61"Then you will remember your ways and be ashamed when you receive your sisters, both your older and your younger; and I will give them to you as daughters, but not because of your covenant.

62"Thus I will establish My covenant with you, and you shall know that I am the LORD,

63so that you may remember and be ashamed and never open your mouth anymore because of your humiliation, when I have forgiven you for all that you have done," the Lord GOD declares.


Wow, wow my brothers. What an amazing God we serve!


Peace.


S




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Title: Re: Sodom will be restored?
Post by: IceDash on March 13, 2009, 04:50:17 AM
Quote from: sscoulter on March 12, 2009, 03:10:14 PM
So I was reading this passage which speaks of Sodom being restored, and I was doing so while being admittedly skeptical. It seems that it may be speaking figuratively, or so I thought. Then, I read on....

60"Nevertheless, I will remember My covenant with you in the days of your youth, and I will establish an everlasting covenant with you.

61"Then you will remember your ways and be ashamed when you receive your sisters, both your older and your younger; and I will give them to you as daughters, but not because of your covenant.

62"Thus I will establish My covenant with you, and you shall know that I am the LORD,

63so that you may remember and be ashamed and never open your mouth anymore because of your humiliation, when I have forgiven you for all that you have done," the Lord GOD declares.


Wow, wow my brothers. What an amazing God we serve!


Peace.


S



Question: Didn't God said in the future that we will not remember former thing? Now I am confused, we will remember our old sins? I thought God wipe out anything we can remember former thing for new things is coming....I don't get it.
Title: Re: Sodom will be restored?
Post by: SpiritDriven on March 13, 2009, 12:09:45 PM
Quite Simple really....
The secret is to Trust God, Sodom and her Sisters will be restored, but their Sins will never be remembered by anybody.
As the Sins of everybody will never be remembered...

Peace