If they are Ultimately Saved and in Heaven the Afterlife, what will they be Like,
And even if these evil men ultimately are saved, I am skeptical,
They will be severely punished, they will NOT get off Scott Free,
My Idea of Justice, The late PLO terrorist leader Yasir Arafat who died in 2004
He killed Thousands upon Thousands of Innocent Jewish Israeli Civilians in his Life, and attempted to Murder in Cold blood Millions MORE, Including Women and Children,
Yasser Arafat was the Scum of the Earth, the Devil Incarnate, Worst than Osama Bin Laden,
Arafat paved the Way for Bin Laden and 9/11, without Arafat, Bin Laden and 9/11 would NOT have been possible, MY VIEW OF JUSTICE, Arafat burning in Hell, Arafat was a Real Creep, and a Sociopath, Before Arafat, even other Arab Terrorists had moral Boundaries, hard to believe
But Each of the Thousands upon Thousands of the Innocent Jewish Victims he Murdered
will Each take Turns, Beating the Daylights out of him, and Tormenting him, Physically and Verbally
One by One, every single one of Arafat's Jewish Victims will take turns tormenting him
Lets add another murderer to that list....killed Christians.
His name was Saul.
Why was Saul different from Hitler, and why are you the judge of that?
Personally, I have violated all the law in thought and deed. If not Hitler...why me?
Yes, Shawn.
"If any man be in Christ Jesus, he is a new creation".
Arafat will not be Arafat anymore. He will have had all of his sins burned away. He will be a new creation and he will have repented of everything horrible he has ever done. His victims tormenting him... what good would that do? Hate breeds hate. Love is what changes people.
Would it be better for them to stay the way they are and "burn forever" or to have a true heart change, be sincerely repentant and sorry for what they have done and become new men? God has already expressed His views on it. What are yours?
I really don't think love changes evil people.
Paul wasn't evil. He was misinformed.
Quote from: lomarah on August 24, 2012, 07:08:00 AM
Arafat will not be Arafat anymore. He will have had all of his sins burned away. He will be a new creation and he will have repented of everything horrible he has ever done. His victims tormenting him... what good would that do? Hate breeds hate. Love is what changes people.
Would it be better for them to stay the way they are and "burn forever" or to have a true heart change, be sincerely repentant and sorry for what they have done and become new men? God has already expressed His views on it. What are yours?
Amen. I think we as humans take on responsibility of judge and jury...and we want to see justice. Thank God he is gracious and merciful to all.
Same old question. Same old avoiding to discuss them.
"A fool only wants to hear his own opinion." (from The Proverbs in the Bible) I don't see this TAF poster bothering to interact with the rest of us.
Quote from: reFORMer on August 24, 2012, 11:35:11 AM
"A fool only wants to hear his own opinion." (from The Proverbs in the Bible) I don't see this TAF poster bothering to interact with the rest of us.
Touché!
Quote from: Molly on August 24, 2012, 07:41:31 AM
I really don't think love changes evil people.
Paul wasn't evil. He was misinformed.
Yes scriptures says he persecuted Gods people out of ignorance.
I don't agree with the first sentence. Scripture says a believing wife can convert her husband via love.
:rolllol: Many here are biased, because most used to be ex terrorists!.
Quote from: thinktank on August 25, 2012, 12:32:18 AM
Quote from: Molly on August 24, 2012, 07:41:31 AM
I really don't think love changes evil people.
Paul wasn't evil. He was misinformed.
Yes scriptures says he persecuted Gods people out of ignorance.
I don't agree with the first sentence. Scripture says a believing wife can convert her husband via love.
God in his wisdom and graciousness has sanctified the children through one believing spouse. The unbelieving spouse can also be sanctified, but if he wishes to go, let him go.
13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.
16 For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife?
--1 Cor 7
Even so, He says, do not be unequally yoked, for God understands the problems and heartaches this can cause the believing spouse.
Really, if that other person is not meant to be saved in this age, no amount of love will overcome that. That's why he says, let them go.
What will those guys be like in heaven??
We don't even know for sure what WE will be like.
We know we will be like Christ but we don't really know what Christ is truly like since we only see through a glass darkly and when we see him clearly - THEN we shall be like him.
All the works of evil people will be burned up. No trace of their former selves will remain since their very nature was evil through and through.
The only works that shall remain from believers will be what was done solely(or souly) for Christ since "whatever is done apart from the spirit is sin."
Quote from: ded2daworld on August 28, 2012, 06:56:06 PMWhat will those guys be like in heaven??
There is preview in the NT.
It starts when a certain person traveling to Damascus.
:dsunny:
"So, what will Hitler, Yasir Arafat and Osama Bin Laden be Like in Heaven"
Clean, pure, and loving God. What else.
I'm not sure I agree with that Micah.
Sure whatever the case they will be pure, clean and loving.
But are they the same people?
Will Saul ever enter heaven? Or will Paul take his place?
Yeah, I know they are the same person but their personality isn't. Almost the opposite.
Saul-Paul is a very extreme form but there are others.
Jacob-Israel. Abram-Abraham. Etc.
"I give you a stone with a secret (new) name"
So to the OP.
Q: Does Hitler enter heaven?
A: The Hitler known from history books most certainly not.
Q: Will Hitler be roasted in hell forever?
A: No.
Q: Will Hitler be annihilated.
A: I think that's much more closer to the truth. The vessel called Hitler will be annihilated/dashed into a million pieces. Then the Potter rebuiild the vessel and gives it a new name.
1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1Ti 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
Isa 46:11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.