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Hello everyone. Russia has attacked Poland. Russia launched a missile into a village inside Poland territory, killing 2 people. US officials have confirmed this. The Poland government is now holding an emergency meeting. Poland is a NATO country. This invokes Article 5, a clause that states NATO members must defend each other. I believe Russia must be stopped.

Psalm 11:5 ESV The Lord tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence.


Sources:
https://www.thedailystar.net/news/world/2022-russian-invasion-ukraine/news/2-killed-russian-missiles-cross-poland-3170636

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-missiles-crossed-into-poland-killing-2-us-official-says/ar-AA148XOP

https://nypost.com/2022/11/15/russian-strike-kills-2-in-poland-us-official-saysrussian-strike-kills-2-in-poland-us-official/

https://www.ft.com/content/6606c639-2632-443b-9359-52d8a9964068 (Paywall)

https://www.businessinsider.com/pentagon-us-defend-nato-territory-russian-missiles-hit-poland-2022-11

And many other news articles reporting this urgent news.

I believe this is World War 3. I?m from Canada, another NATO member. I have been following the Ukraine and Russia conflict since it first started.

Isaiah 41:10 ESV Fear not, for I am with you; be not dismayed, for I am your God; I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.


2 Timothy 1:7 For God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self-control.


I mention this here because if I?m killed, I can no longer post Daily Universalist Verses on this thread. However, as long as this site remains up and I am physically and mentally able, I promise you all that I will continue to post Bible Verses that prove Universal Salvation through Jesus Christ until I die. I say this in advance so you know what happens if my posts suddenly stop appearing or disappear.

Proverbs 22:3 The prudent sees danger and hides himself, but the simple go on and suffer for it.


On a personal note, not only do I pray for good to all people, but I also pray for my family. I care for my family members deeply. Even though none of them believe in Universal Salvation, I cry, thinking of the pain in the future we may experience from this conflict. Even though there are some in my family that believe in ECT, or don?t believe in faith alone on Jesus Christ, I pray for their safety. I am the only one that I have physically met that believes in Universal Salvation, but still, I pray to Christ Jesus to bless the whole world. I have talked to at least one of them in-person face-to-face already about this news, but I plan to speak to more of them so we are all prepared.  :friendstu:

1 John 4:19 We love because he first loved us.


Regardless of your beliefs, I hope we can all recognize the absolute evilness of the Russian Federation with their war crimes. I stand with Ukraine, I stand with Poland and I will stand with any country that fights back against the terrorist state that is Russia.

Deuteronomy 27:25 ?Cursed is anyone who accepts a bribe to kill an innocent person.? Then all the people shall say, ?Amen!?


Exodus 23:7 Keep far from a false charge, and do not kill the innocent and righteous, for I will not acquit the wicked.


I trust in the Lord to save us all from evil. God has promised to save everyone; therefore, His will shall be carried out.  :dsunny:

Psalm 112:7 ESV He is not afraid of bad news; his heart is firm, trusting in the Lord.


Revelation 21:4 - He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.


All of the tears that drop from our eyes in response to all of the pain and suffering from the world will be wiped away by the Lord our God. He will wipe everyone?s tears away.  :HeartThrob:

Russia Revelation



https://www.thetrumpet.com/11228-is-vladimir-putin-the-prophesied-prince-of-rosh

Prophecy Against Gog

38 The word of the Lord came to me: 2 ?Son of man, set your face toward Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of Rosh, Meshech[a] and Tubal, and prophesy against him 3 and say, Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. 4 And I will turn you about and put hooks into your jaws, and I will bring you out, and all your army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed in full armor, a great host, all of them with buckler and shield, wielding swords. 5 Persia, Cush, and Put are with them, all of them with shield and helmet; 6 Gomer and all his hordes; Beth-togarmah from the uttermost parts of the north with all his hordes?many peoples are with you.



Rosh = Russia

Mesech = Moscow (western capital city of Russia)

Tubal = Tobolsk (eastern capital city of Russia)

Chief Prince of Rosh, Mesech = President of Russia, from Moscow to Tobolsk = Vladmir Putin



Gog = Russian territory

Magog = Chinese territory

Gog and Magog = Russian Chinese alliance



7 ?Be ready and keep ready, you and all your hosts that are assembled about you, and be a guard for them. 8 After many days you will be mustered. In the latter years you will go against the land that is restored from war, the land whose people were gathered from many peoples upon the mountains of Israel, which had been a continual waste. Its people were brought out from the peoples and now dwell securely, all of them. 9 You will advance, coming on like a storm. You will be like a cloud covering the land, you and all your hordes, and many peoples with you.



Land restored from war = Post World War 2

Land whose people gathered from many peoples = International citizens in Ukraine, immigrants to country.

Entire Russian population of millions drafted into army.



10 ?Thus says the Lord God: On that day, thoughts will come into your mind, and you will devise an evil scheme 11 and say, ?I will go up against the land of unwalled villages. I will fall upon the quiet people who dwell securely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having no bars or gates,? 12 to seize spoil and carry off plunder, to turn your hand against the waste places that are now inhabited, and the people who were gathered from the nations, who have acquired livestock and goods, who dwell at the center of the earth. 13 Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish and all its leaders[c] will say to you, ?Have you come to seize spoil? Have you assembled your hosts to carry off plunder, to carry away silver and gold, to take away livestock and goods, to seize great spoil??



Evil scheme = Russian war crime invasion of Ukraine.

Quiet people who dwell securely = Ukranians

Land of unwalled villages = Ukraine located near center of earth

Ukraine flag. Blue = sky. Yellow = wheat. They have very fertile soil and are known for their farming crops.

Russia stealing grain shipments.



14 ?Therefore, son of man, prophesy, and say to Gog, Thus says the Lord God: On that day when my people Israel are dwelling securely, will you not know it? 15 You will come from your place out of the uttermost parts of the north, you and many peoples with you, all of them riding on horses, a great host, a mighty army. 16 You will come up against my people Israel, like a cloud covering the land. In the latter days I will bring you against my land, that the nations may know me, when through you, O Gog, I vindicate my holiness before their eyes.



Russia is country directly most north from Israel

Riding horses = Riding military vehicles, tanks

Israel will launch a nuclear bomb, a sword, against Gog, aka Russia.



17 ?Thus says the Lord God: Are you he of whom I spoke in former days by my servants the prophets of Israel, who in those days prophesied for years that I would bring you against them? 18 But on that day, the day that Gog shall come against the land of Israel, declares the Lord God, my wrath will be roused in my anger. 19 For in my jealousy and in my blazing wrath I declare, On that day there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel. 20 The fish of the sea and the birds of the heavens and the beasts of the field and all creeping things that creep on the ground, and all the people who are on the face of the earth, shall quake at my presence. And the mountains shall be thrown down, and the cliffs shall fall, and every wall shall tumble to the ground. 21 I will summon a sword against Gog[d] on all my mountains, declares the Lord God. Every man's sword will be against his brother. 22 With pestilence and bloodshed I will enter into judgment with him, and I will rain upon him and his hordes and the many peoples who are with him torrential rains and hailstones, fire and sulfur. 23 So I will show my greatness and my holiness and make myself known in the eyes of many nations. Then they will know that I am the Lord.



Summon a sword = Dropping nuclear bombs (their ingredient is the element sulfur) falling (fire)

Pestilence = Covid-19



Revelation 20:1-15

that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection.



https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/explained-why-are-russians-using-the-letter-z-to-show-support-for-the-war-in-ukraine-7817467/

https://citydesert.wordpress.com/2018/01/03/the-hermits-of-the-zverinets-monastery/

Russian Z stands for Russian word Zveri meaning Beast, thus the Russian Z is the mark of the beast.



https://www.foxnews.com/world/putin-readies-worlds-most-powerful-satan-ii-nuclear-missile-combat-duty

Putin?s most powerful nuclear missile called ?Satan 2?



Joel 2:1 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the Lord cometh, for it is nigh at hand?

Trumpet = Nuclear klaxon.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormwood_(Bible)

Rev 8:10?11 The third angel blew his trumpet, and a great star fell from heaven, blazing like a torch, and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water. The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters became wormwood, and many died from the water, because it was made bitter.

Due to the Ukrainian word for Artemisia vulgaris being Chernobyl

verses referring to a "star falling down and turning the waters bitter" are interpreted as radioactive fallout from disaster poisoning environment around Chernobyl, leaving it uninhabitable.

town centre of Chernobyl, there?s Wormwood Star Memorial, depicts an angel blowing a trumpet, recalling biblical prophecy.

  :thumbsup: I agree about the world today..  :Chinscratch: I hadn?t pinpointed gog and magog, and Russia and China rings true to me.. Besides seeing it shaping up in the world. I agree about thermonuclear also - quote - thunderings, (thermonuclear) lightning, rolling like a scroll, great hail - the faster moisture rises and highest, the bigger the hail.. quote - the earth will shake to and fro.. the first event of it (seal 6? but described as its fuLL effects, first to also, last, veils what that element of the age is) first event was released by an office if man (proceedsout of earth) this I tend to think is the one who will step into the main seat if the huge many headed geopolitical beast (Rev.13:1) which to me us the closer, power (globalist) behind the machinations of war and slso of nations and cultures breakdown(s).. Been poking the bear (beast) for a while now.. nato doing ops at in Ukraine at Russia?s border, putin?s redline being trying to get Ukraine into nato..
    Things, I believe, are moving quite (quote) speedily and quickly.. (Sometimes relatively speaking?)
:Chinscratch: I?ve wondered before if thermonuclear might be what the, quote, seven thunders are..
     Seal 6 in chapter 6, then (quote) the winds of held back (Rev.7:1,3) until the servants of God are sealed on their forehead (vs.9, and also 4) clarity? to go with the seal upon the heart which cries abba father. - The heat will not smite those who are virgins as to the last hours female idol/god spirit..
    Good news is, imo anyway, the Lord?s long second advent consists of TWO millennia - what?s called THE millennium, and the judgment.
    Jesus said, ?All those in the tombs/graves will hear God?s voice and will come forth? (from the graves) ?some into the resurrection of life (into THE millennium). And some into the resurrection of judgment? (Jn.5:28-29) which ->elsewhere He calls agelasting-correction or that is ?aionion/eonian-kolasis/correction? (Mt.25:46). Which resurrection into the judgment/correction is ?aFter THE thousand years/THE millennium? (Rev.20:5).
     So there?s another millennium?  As there needs to occur all of Rev.20:5 and 7-13.. So an EIGHTH ?day? follows the 7th/Sabbath millennium (Jn.7:37). Any one who?s name - by end of the ?8th? - is still not in the book of Life will be corrected via the universal fiery regenesis which follows it ? Lake of fire as event, not a ?place?.  But I believe Jesus ?will draw all? (Jn.12:32) so no ?souls hurt by the second death?.
   

Quote from: marie glen on March 07, 2023, 06:10:10 PM
  :thumbsup: I agree about the world today..  :Chinscratch: I hadn?t pinpointed gog and magog, and Russia and China rings true to me..

Yes, I saw this article recently which I shows heavy evidence towards China supporting Russia' invasion of Ukraine

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/02/24/russia-china-military-relations-report-ripley-pkg-eboff-vpx.cnn

Quote from: marie glen on March 07, 2023, 06:10:10 PM
Besides seeing it shaping up in the world. I agree about thermonuclear also - quote - thunderings, (thermonuclear) lightning, rolling like a scroll, great hail - the faster moisture rises and highest, the bigger the hail.. quote - the earth will shake to and fro.. the first event of it (seal 6? but described as its fuLL effects, first to also, last, veils what that element of the age is) first event was released by an office if man (proceedsout of earth) this I tend to think is the one who will step into the main seat if the huge many headed geopolitical beast (Rev.13:1) which to me us the closer, power (globalist) behind the machinations of war and slso of nations and cultures breakdown(s).. Been poking the bear (beast) for a while now.. nato doing ops at in Ukraine at Russia?s border, putin?s redline being trying to get Ukraine into nato..

I also agree with the beast line, the ten horns, and seven heads I believe is a metaphor for the countries that will be committing blasphemy. It's interesting how Putin appears in pictures with Christian Churches, yet has also issued bans on any kind of evangelism that is done outside of churches. (Maybe an angel like in Acts 5 can free evangelists who are arrested :Chinscratch: ) I think we can look at the fruit that the Ruzzia Federation bears, Putin maybe at least as a false prophet (Mat 7:15-20) based on their invasion of Ukraine and put it as potentially one of the ten horns, or seven heads.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/thousands-fast-after-putin-signs-law-banning-evangelism-outside-of-churches

Quote from: marie glen on March 07, 2023, 06:10:10 PM
    Things, I believe, are moving quite (quote) speedily and quickly.. (Sometimes relatively speaking?)
:Chinscratch: I?ve wondered before if thermonuclear might be what the, quote, seven thunders are..
     Seal 6 in chapter 6, then (quote) the winds of held back (Rev.7:1,3) until the servants of God are sealed on their forehead (vs.9, and also 4) clarity? to go with the seal upon the heart which cries abba father. - The heat will not smite those who are virgins as to the last hours female idol/god spirit..

The winds I can see as a reference to Satan, since he is the prince of airs. (Eph 2:1?2). And Putin has a missile literally called "Satan-2" So thermonuclear gusts of wind and the loud sound, like thunder, Satan's physical attack on the world? Maybe Putin's possessed like Lucifer, the Babylonian King (Ish,14:12) :Chinscratch:

https://www.businessinsider.com/satan-ii-sarmat-deadly-putin-russia-intercontinental-ballistic-missile-2023-2

Quote from: marie glen on March 07, 2023, 06:10:10 PM
    Good news is, imo anyway, the Lord?s long second advent consists of TWO millennia - what?s called THE millennium, and the judgment.
    Jesus said, ?All those in the tombs/graves will hear God?s voice and will come forth? (from the graves) ?some into the resurrection of life (into THE millennium). And some into the resurrection of judgment? (Jn.5:28-29) which ->elsewhere He calls agelasting-correction or that is ?aionion/eonian-kolasis/correction? (Mt.25:46). Which resurrection into the judgment/correction is ?aFter THE thousand years/THE millennium? (Rev.20:5).
     So there?s another millennium?  As there needs to occur all of Rev.20:5 and 7-13.. So an EIGHTH ?day? follows the 7th/Sabbath millennium (Jn.7:37). Any one who?s name - by end of the ?8th? - is still not in the book of Life will be corrected via the universal fiery regenesis which follows it ? Lake of fire as event, not a ?place?.  But I believe Jesus ?will draw all? (Jn.12:32) so no ?souls hurt by the second death?.

I agree, I like to think of the Book of Life as a guestbook at a wedding. As people come to the banquet of rich food (Ish 25:6-8), they're name is signed on their as soon as they believe in Christ (Jn 1:12). I like to call it Lake of the fire, like godfire, the furnace of affliction, a blacksmith molding metal to a desired shape. (Is 48:10). Metaphorically, of course, so no souls physically hurt, like you say.  :thumbsup:

The correction is like olam(OT) aionios(NT), God doesn't change, so in old age Israelites were punished temporarily (Zep 3:15), so in new age Gentiles punished temporarily (Jn 12:47). So after all ages, everyone's name in the Book of Life (1 Cor 13:8).  :dsunny:

This is under the assumption that Gog and Magog prophechy hasn't already been fulfilled (a dispensationalist futurist assumption). Under preterism, the Gog and Magog prophecy is ancient history and has already been fulfilled. The video series below discusses very strong points about the last days having already occurred.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9ePPBLvJ68&list=PLhTk2RamIg8tPSR2YKe8Mbvui-BJ00mIF&index=1