I find in uncanny that you 'both' chose this forum to make your refutes on Christian Universalism. It would be fine for discussing the finer points of CU. that's what all the other fine members here have done. Why have you 'both'(I use this loosely because I already know better) used the discussion forum instead of going to the much more appropriate 'Arguments Against Universalism' section of the forum. That's pretty much what you 'both' have tried to bring to the table(back to back, and equally unsuccessfully).
Deep down — he's hungry for the truth!
you have a point Beloved Servant
Quote from: Beloved Servant on August 21, 2009, 05:57:51 AM
Deep down — he's hungry for the truth!
Obviously. :thumbsup:
:cloud9: Amen, I believe you're right. And he's going to have the eat the WHOLE LAMB before He can passover and come out of the fleshpots of Egypt. Bitter herbs, anyone? :winkgrin: Blessings....
He's having his first course of that dinner here at Tentmaker.
Amen!
cp
iI would say second course ...remember he had to leave the table one time.
But A Definite AMEN
one more.....
Quote from: preistsplace on August 20, 2009, 06:12:17 AM
Quote from: ChosenofGod37 on August 18, 2009, 04:20:07 AM
Hey Looking up,
Which is it you believe:
God can't save ALL His creation or
God won't save all His creation
COG: All things are possible with God. He is all powerful. God can save all creation, but chooses not to.
The concept of God's chosen people is first found in the Old Testament. God chose Israel as His special people. "And because He loved your fathers, therefore He chose their descendants after them; and He brought you out of Egypt with His Presence, with His mighty power" (Deuteronomy 4:37). "For you are a holy people to the Lord your God; the Lord your God has chosen you to be a people for Himself, a special treasure above all the peoples on the face of the earth" (Deuteronomy 7:6 // Deuteronomy 14:2).
The election of physical Israel was but a sign of a higher spiritual election on the basis, not of the lineage of Abraham, but of the faith of Abraham. This was God's plan even before the creation of the world. "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace, by which He has made us accepted in the Beloved" (Ephesians 1:3-6).
he can but won't so you then say that he does not love all of his works as he created some with the foreknowledge tht they would suffer eternally in the lof...
his mercies then are not infinite nor over all of his works and he does willingly afflict the children of men, he will cast off forever....
Hopefully you guys are right, but I personally don't believe it. Some people just have a closed mind and only want to argue. Maybe I'll be proven wrong. That would be a good thing.
:cloud9: Well, we can hope and pray........... :dontknow: