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2 Corinthians 12:1-4
King James Version
12 It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord.
2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;)
4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.
Do Christian universalism people believe in this?
I think we should of course consider all pertaining verses about, life, death and after this life (as we presently know it). I think God is life and he ?is perfect? so imperfect is entropy, the worm that doesn?t quit, the slow burn/gehenna that cannot be quenched/put out.. I don?t believe we are inherently immortal, but will put on immortality.. scripture quote - none can keep alive their soul.
🤔 Jesus said, ?All those in the tombs/graves will hear God?s voice and will come forth? (from the graves/tombs) ?some into the resurrection of life? (into THE millennium, to serve called reigning? for to do His works.. crown of Life, not metal.. during his long second advent, a full scope version of his so brief first one?).. ?And some, into the resurrection of (the GWT) judgment? ?day? (Jn.5:28-29, part of his second advent) which elsewhere He calls agelasting correction [?kolasin aionion? oR ?korrection eonian?] Mt.25:46, logically, the completing of - ?drawing all? - Jn.12:32! And surely(?) it?s a same process of refinement/correction for all. The crucible being life as we presently know it - this unavoidable, all important contrast - until vivification either at 1Cor.15:52,53 or at Rev.21:5, 1Cor.15:24-28. (We shall have character that is clear as crystal. Humanity and creation sealed and saturated with God?s Spirit/Presence. The dis-ease as part of the cure? ..And immunity..)
So if out of the body.. still not immortal, imo. :gsmile: