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Discussions Relating to Universal Reconciliation => Discussions on Universal Salvation => Topic started by: IceMan84 on February 19, 2010, 04:25:10 AM

Title: Observations.net?
Post by: IceMan84 on February 19, 2010, 04:25:10 AM
Just wondering if anyone has ever come across this website. It is a guy who basically explains how he was a universalist but then God returned him to the ET philosophy. His arguments don't make much sense to me but here it is if you are interested:

http://www.observations.net/questions/question8.html

This guy also doesn't appear to be a big fan of our current president....

"We live in perilous times. We have an openly anti-Christian "President"; one who holds the office illegally in that he is not an American citizen.

Our government has no respect for the Constitution and actively disdains the basic human rights of the American citizenry.

Two evil forces control our government; the Beast and the Whore.

The Beast is Obama, Brzezinski, Soros, the Democrats.

The Whore is the Jewish zionists, the neocons, the Republicans and their judeo-christian supporters.

Neither one cares about the America of our fathers. All they care about is power.

American unemployment stands at 20 percent. The year 2010 will see the beginning of the Great Depression.

Americans are weak; doing nothing in the face of this assault on our liberties and way of life.

We may very well be entering the seven years of tribulation. The illegal occupant in the White House may in fact be the antichrist.

Only Christ can save us."
Title: Re: Observations.net?
Post by: jabcat on February 19, 2010, 04:52:27 AM
I read the guy's testimony.  It sounds to me like his brand of "universalism" was during a time of occultic meditation?  I never heard him describe his universalistic beliefs as being based in Jesus, the cross, and the scriptures.  It sounds as if he was floundering around believing all sorts of things, and some form of universalism was among them.  So what was his faith built upon?  The Rock, or shifting sand?  I may not believe in the kind of universalism he was describing either, because I don't believe in the "universalism" of the Unitarians, or even Carleton Pearson, for that matter - the kind that says it doesn't matter, there's no difference in Buddhist/Moslem/Christian, all are saved already there's nothing to worry about, all roads lead to God, join hands and sing "Kumbaya".  I don't believe that's the message of Jesus Christ Savior of the world - the Lamb that was slain - every knee will bow every tongue confess Jesus is Lord - Biblical, Christian Ultimate Reconciliation/Victorious Gospel of Jesus Christ.

So I'm not sure what the fellow believed, but it didn't sound like the belief of a born-again, blood-washed child of God who also happens to believe in the "Living God, Savior of all men, especially of those who are believing", Who has a purpose of the ages and will reconcile His whole creation. "....and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven."  Colossians 1:20

Amen.
Title: Re: Observations.net?
Post by: IceMan84 on February 19, 2010, 04:58:33 AM
Quote from: jabcat on February 19, 2010, 04:52:27 AM
I read the guy's testimony.  It sounds to me like his brand of "universalism" was during a time of occultic meditation?  I never heard him describe his universalistic beliefs as being based in Jesus, the cross, and the scriptures.  It sounds as if he was floundering around believing all sorts of things, and some form of universalism was among them.  So what was his faith built upon?  The Rock, or shifting sand?  I may not believe in the kind of universalism he was describing either, because I don't believe in the "universalism" of the Unitarians, or even Carleton Pearson, for that matter - the kind that says it doesn't matter, there's no difference in Buddhist/Moslem/Christian, all are saved already there's nothing to worry about, all roads lead to God, join hands and sing "Kumbaya".  I don't believe that's the message of Jesus Christ Savior of the world - the Lamb that was slain - every knee will bow every tongue confess Jesus is Lord - Biblical, Christian Ultimate Reconciliation/Victorious Gospel of Jesus Christ.

So I'm not sure what the fellow believed, but it didn't sound like the belief of a born-again, blood-washed child of God who also happens to believe in the "Living God, Savior of all men, especially of those who are believing", Who has a purpose of the ages and will reconcile His whole creation. "....and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven."  Colossians 1:20

Amen.


Yeah, I kind of got the impression that he didn't have a strong bibilical base in his views of Universalism...almost more like Unitarian Universalism. Thanks for your reply Jabcat.
Title: Re: Observations.net?
Post by: jabcat on February 19, 2010, 05:01:19 AM
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