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Title: New article on Universalism
Post by: Steve G on January 21, 2011, 08:58:40 PM

You might be interested in this new article on Universalism titled:

Will all be saved in the end?

Regular Network Norwich and Norfolk columnist James Knight looks at the controversial issue of salvation.

http://www.networknorwich.co.uk/Publisher/Article.aspx?ID=239279#new

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Title: Re: New article on Universalism
Post by: Nathan on January 21, 2011, 09:43:19 PM
Pretty good article  . . . I notice the comments following were a bit reserved and even a little distant from the idea of the truth of what's being said.  I still find it amusing that those who are concerned about UR supporters being the ones that are offering inaccurate and false doctrine when they themselves are standing in the middle of a broken system themselves.
Title: Re: New article on Universalism
Post by: Aleax on January 21, 2011, 10:03:41 PM
I wish I had a dollar every time I see someone trying to prove ET with Matthew 25:46. :bdh:
Title: Re: New article on Universalism
Post by: WhiteWings on January 21, 2011, 10:36:04 PM
Quote from: Aleax on January 21, 2011, 10:03:41 PM
I wish I had a dollar every time I see someone trying to prove ET with Matthew 25:46. :bdh:
Yeah, and the ETs blame UR peepz that our believe is based on one verse. :icon_jokercolor:
Title: Re: New article on Universalism
Post by: WhiteWings on January 21, 2011, 10:47:52 PM
QuoteThe two biggest extremist in Christianity seem to be, firstly, those who preach a gospel of judgment in which they feel called to terrify children (and adults) with threats of hellfire,
and secondly, those who adopt an anti science position (denying things like evolution)
Hu? I'm very sure many ETs are anti-science too.
Later on in the artice he only speaks about ETs and URs. Should I conclude all URs rejected science?
:dontknow:

Title: Re: New article on Universalism
Post by: PaoloNuevo on January 22, 2011, 01:13:08 AM
QuoteAnd presumably, the torment of Hell can only be quantified as a comparison to the glory of Heaven, just as the feeling of not being in love is only felt in its fullness when the absence of that love is most tangible.  Only when the heart is broken does the absence of love become unbearable,

Kind of reminds me of how Pope Karol Wojtyla says hell is the absence of love or the Holy Spirit's presence... I think JP II believed "hell" was a metaphor...

Title: Re: New article on Universalism
Post by: jabcat on January 23, 2011, 05:00:37 AM
Quote from: WhiteWings on January 21, 2011, 10:47:52 PM
QuoteThe two biggest extremist in Christianity seem to be, firstly, those who preach a gospel of judgment in which they feel called to terrify children (and adults) with threats of hellfire,
and secondly, those who adopt an anti science position (denying things like evolution)
Hu? I'm very sure many ETs are anti-science too.
Later on in the artice he only speaks about ETs and URs. Should I conclude all URs rejected science?
:dontknow:

I had to re-read that too.  I think he's saying the "ETers" and "anti-sciencers" are both in the same group, but it's confusing the way he worded it.   :2c:


Interesting article.
Title: Re: New article on Universalism
Post by: Steve G on January 23, 2011, 09:09:40 AM
I enjoyed the article although James' vision is still somewhat impaired by the traditions and teachings of men, I might comment on the article when I'm not so busy, in the meantime we'll have to pray for brother James Knight that the Lord would give him a spirit of wisdom and revelation to see the Lords all-sufficient Grace has ushered in His all-inclusive Gospel.

All God's children none left behind!
Title: Re: New article on Universalism
Post by: micah7:9 on January 23, 2011, 08:22:59 PM
Quote from: jabcat on January 23, 2011, 05:00:37 AM
Quote from: WhiteWings on January 21, 2011, 10:47:52 PM
QuoteThe two biggest extremist in Christianity seem to be, firstly, those who preach a gospel of judgment in which they feel called to terrify children (and adults) with threats of hellfire,
and secondly, those who adopt an anti science position (denying things like evolution)
Hu? I'm very sure many ETs are anti-science too.
Later on in the artice he only speaks about ETs and URs. Should I conclude all URs rejected science?
:dontknow:

I had to re-read that too.  I think he's saying the "ETers" and "anti-sciencers" are both in the same group, but it's confusing the way he worded it.   :2c:


Interesting article.

Agreed :bigGrin:
Title: Re: New article on Universalism
Post by: WhiteWings on January 23, 2011, 08:37:33 PM
It's good to see both of you agree :winkgrin:
But I still don't understand.
I've seen ETs and URs that do and do not believe in (certain parts of) science. (likely it's the same with EDs).
Maybe it's not of real importance for the article but then I wonder why the author even mentions it....
Title: Re: New article on Universalism
Post by: Steve G on February 12, 2011, 05:46:19 PM
In James' second article he deals with....

The philosophical problem of eternal hell


http://www.networknorwich.co.uk/Publisher/Article.aspx?ID=243026#new