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Title: Is U.R. “The Gospel?”
Post by: Merks on March 29, 2020, 09:15:30 PM
Galatians 3:8
"And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, "In you all the nations shall be blessed (Gen. 12:3)."

What "is" the Gospel? The death, burial and resurrection of Jesus the Christ? According to Paul the Gospel was preached to Abraham saying ... "in you all the nations shall be blessed." Perhaps we should say the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus is "how" the Gospel was accomplished?

A little latter in Genesis chapter 15:1 God declares: "After these things the word of the LORD came to Abram in a vision, saying, "Do not be afraid, Abram. I am your shield, your exceedingly great reward."

I absolutely love this verse. It so resonates with the declaration that God has reconciled all things to Himself and God will be all in all. HE IS OUR REWARD ... (Numbers 18:20).

Preaching the Gospel is fulfilling our God given ministry of reconciliation. Letting people know that through the cross God has made His peace with all men. All that needs to be done is rest in the work of Jesus and stop trying to do for themselves what has already been done for them.

I don't know, this probably comes across a little scatterbrained and fragmented but I hope you get my heart.

Merks.

Title: Re: Is U.R. “The Gospel?”
Post by: rosered on March 29, 2020, 09:53:56 PM


I do get your heart brother
  and Yes  in Christ  is the good news of UR
  He  become the Lord of both the dead and living to  reconcile back to God   all things  that means  everything till God be all and all LIVING IN AND THOUGH AND BY AND FOR HIM   OUR VICTORY and exceedingly  great reward  ..
IN CHRIST all things are made new .and to the glory of the Father .
   This is our joy in the Lord and in the Spirit of Truth and life !!    :HeartThrob:
Title: Re: Is U.R. “The Gospel?”
Post by: Merks on April 03, 2020, 01:53:43 PM
Thanks for your reply Rosered. It's funny, I used to read that verse in Gal. 3:8 and blew right past it. I always thought, of course, Abram believed God and it was counted to him as righteousness. This last time reading through Galatians I was just stopped cold in my tracks.

I wondered, how is "in thee all the nations of the earth will be blessed" the Gospel? How would Abraham understand it to be the Gospel when there is no mention of forgiven sin, death or resurrection? I just wanted to see if there was room for the distinction between "how" The Gospel was procured (death burial and resurrection of The Christ) and the effect/result of His actions.

I know they are indelibly linked the one with the other, yet I see a difference between the means and the scope of what the means accomplished. He alone supplied the means and then involved us, His elect in this age, to participate in spreading The Gospel, via the ministry of reconciliation, the vast scope of what was accomplished for us.

Anyway, thanks again for your reply.

Blessings,
Merks
Title: Re: Is U.R. “The Gospel?”
Post by: rosered on April 04, 2020, 03:07:03 PM


  Dear Merks ,
  I love it when that happens !!! , it is like the Spirit quickens this Word in you   , it does make us desire to hunger and thirst  for more  of Him .
I always loved how the nations would be blessed  by God  and it is a promise of faith that seed would cause it
  Jesus Christ is that   reward   seed /Word  planted ..

  the seed  of faith in the gospel in Luke 8 11 The Parable of the Sower
...10He replied, "The knowledge of the mysteries of the kingdom of God has been given to you, but to others I speak in parables, so that, 'though seeing, they may not see; though hearing, they may not understand.' 11Now this is the meaning of the parable: The seed is the word of God. 12The seeds along the path are those who hear, but the devil comes and takes away the word from their hearts, so that they may not believe and be saved....

Later, Jesus explains to his disciples that the seed represents the Gospel, the sower represents anyone who proclaims it, and the various soils represent people's responses to it (the first three representing rejection while the last one represents acceptance).

   What made me go deeper was how it was both  kinds of faith   as nations , sands of the sea shore  , seeing them as the parable of those whom build on the sand
  and the stars of heaven , those in the darkness with the Light of Christ Holy Spirit anointing the Word in them   to spread the good news of the gospel  , and bear fruit for many generations.


I am not a good writer at all  ,  hope this makes some sense lol ....   but you are seeking and knocking and  finding
  Blessings bro!!   
 
Title: Re: Is U.R. “The Gospel?”
Post by: marie glen on April 04, 2020, 04:52:42 PM
Quote from: Merks on March 29, 2020, 09:15:30 PM
Galatians 3:8
"And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, "In you all the nations shall be blessed (Gen. 12:3)."

What "is" the Gospel? The death, burial and resurrection of Jesus the Christ? According to Paul the Gospel was preached to Abraham saying ... "in you all the nations shall be blessed." Perhaps we should say the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus is "how" the Gospel was accomplished?

A little latter in Genesis chapter 15:1 God declares: "After these things the word of the LORD came to Abram in a vision, saying, "Do not be afraid, Abram. I am your shield, your exceedingly great reward."

I absolutely love this verse. It so resonates with the declaration that God has reconciled all things to Himself and God will be all in all. HE IS OUR REWARD ... (Numbers 18:20).

Preaching the Gospel is fulfilling our God given ministry of reconciliation. Letting people know that through the cross God has made His peace with all men. All that needs to be done is rest in the work of Jesus and stop trying to do for themselves what has already been done for them.

I don't know, this probably comes across a little scatterbrained and fragmented but I hope you get my heart.

Merks.

:thumbsup: Amen! ...And you said it very well!
Title: Re: Is U.R. “The Gospel?”
Post by: marie glen on April 04, 2020, 07:53:19 PM
Quote from: rosered on April 04, 2020, 03:07:03 PM


  Dear Merks ,
  I love it when that happens !!! , it is like the Spirit quickens this Word in you   , it does make us desire to hunger and thirst  for more  of Him .
I always loved how the nations would be blessed  by God  and it is a promise of faith that seed would cause it
  Jesus Christ is that   reward   seed /Word  planted ..

  the seed  of faith in the gospel in Luke 8 11 The Parable of the Sower
...10He replied, "The knowledge of the mysteries of the kingdom of God has been given to you, but to others I speak in parables, so that, 'though seeing, they may not see; though hearing, they may not understand.' 11Now this is the meaning of the parable: The seed is the word of God. 12The seeds along the path are those who hear, but the devil comes and takes away the word from their hearts, so that they may not believe and be saved....

Later, Jesus explains to his disciples that the seed represents the Gospel, the sower represents anyone who proclaims it, and the various soils represent people's responses to it (the first three representing rejection while the last one represents acceptance).

   What made me go deeper was how it was both  kinds of faith   as nations , sands of the sea shore  , seeing them as the parable of those whom build on the sand
  and the stars of heaven , those in the darkness with the Light of Christ Holy Spirit anointing the Word in them   to spread the good news of the gospel  , and bear fruit for many generations.


I am not a good writer at all  ,  hope this makes some sense lol ....   but you are seeking and knocking and  finding
  Blessings bro!!   


Amen Rose! "The Seed" Jesus snd the Logos.. "Jesus the First" greek "proto" - the prototype! "We shall " ALL "be like Him"!

Our Father.. wise and SO omni-capable!! :girlheart: