I found a file on Tentmaker.And need help finding it again.

[ghost kid]

In the file its says forever and ever doesn't make sense.Because then there would be two forevers.Does anybody know what file I am talking about? :bigGrin:

[marie glen]

I tried the search button but I only got your post, lol. :dontknow:

[ghost kid]

I tried the search button but I only got your post, lol. :dontknow:




The website I am talking about is right here:

https://www.tentmaker.org/articles/universalism-is-not-in-the-bible.htm

[marie glen]

I tried the search button but I only got your post, lol. :dontknow:




The website I am talking about is right here:

https://www.tentmaker.org/articles/universalism-is-not-in-the-bible.htm

     :thumbsup:

[ghost kid]

I found it!:

https://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/eternity.htm

Once we understand that aion and all the compounds of that word denote time, how clear everything becomes! And how ridiculous the ignorant pratings of men! In an effort to harmonize the Scriptures with the false doctrines of the apostate Church, the translators rendered "the ages of the ages" as "for ever and ever." This one little mistake once and for all exposes their folly. Even in English we can see that "for ever" cannot be endless if "and ever" may be added to it. Eternity cannot be added to! Only time may be compounded. Eternity is absolute timelessness. Eternity is without either beginning or end. There cannot be more than one eternity. You cannot add a second eternity on to a first eternity. Forever in English means "for eternity; always; perpetually; endlessly." Now if "for ever" is "eternity" how can you add "and ever," attaching ANOTHER ETERNITY to an already existing eternity? That isn't even correct English grammar! Ah - but ages are time--and time, beloved, can be added to! When the Greek speaks of "the ages of the ages" it is speaking of aggregated periods of time - not eternity! And you cannot get eternity by compounding all the time periods of the past and the future, for time began and time ends. The ages and all the time and times combined do not equal eternity. There simply is no such thing as "the endless ages of eternity" as the preachers love to say, for the phrase is a complete contradiction of itself. No one who is sane and reasonable can maintain otherwise. To do so is to contradict all known facts and to contradict God's own Word.

[ghost kid]

I found it!:

https://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/eternity.htm

Once we understand that aion and all the compounds of that word denote time, how clear everything becomes! And how ridiculous the ignorant pratings of men! In an effort to harmonize the Scriptures with the false doctrines of the apostate Church, the translators rendered "the ages of the ages" as "for ever and ever." This one little mistake once and for all exposes their folly. Even in English we can see that "for ever" cannot be endless if "and ever" may be added to it. Eternity cannot be added to! Only time may be compounded. Eternity is absolute timelessness. Eternity is without either beginning or end. There cannot be more than one eternity. You cannot add a second eternity on to a first eternity. Forever in English means "for eternity; always; perpetually; endlessly." Now if "for ever" is "eternity" how can you add "and ever," attaching ANOTHER ETERNITY to an already existing eternity? That isn't even correct English grammar! Ah - but ages are time--and time, beloved, can be added to! When the Greek speaks of "the ages of the ages" it is speaking of aggregated periods of time - not eternity! And you cannot get eternity by compounding all the time periods of the past and the future, for time began and time ends. The ages and all the time and times combined do not equal eternity. There simply is no such thing as "the endless ages of eternity" as the preachers love to say, for the phrase is a complete contradiction of itself. No one who is sane and reasonable can maintain otherwise. To do so is to contradict all known facts and to contradict God's own Word.

What do you think marie glen?

[marie glen]

I found it!:

https://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/eternity.htm

Once we understand that aion and all the compounds of that word denote time, how clear everything becomes! And how ridiculous the ignorant pratings of men! In an effort to harmonize the Scriptures with the false doctrines of the apostate Church, the translators rendered "the ages of the ages" as "for ever and ever." This one little mistake once and for all exposes their folly. Even in English we can see that "for ever" cannot be endless if "and ever" may be added to it. Eternity cannot be added to! Only time may be compounded. Eternity is absolute timelessness. Eternity is without either beginning or end. There cannot be more than one eternity. You cannot add a second eternity on to a first eternity. Forever in English means "for eternity; always; perpetually; endlessly." Now if "for ever" is "eternity" how can you add "and ever," attaching ANOTHER ETERNITY to an already existing eternity? That isn't even correct English grammar! Ah - but ages are time--and time, beloved, can be added to! When the Greek speaks of "the ages of the ages" it is speaking of aggregated periods of time - not eternity! And you cannot get eternity by compounding all the time periods of the past and the future, for time began and time ends. The ages and all the time and times combined do not equal eternity. There simply is no such thing as "the endless ages of eternity" as the preachers love to say, for the phrase is a complete contradiction of itself. No one who is sane and reasonable can maintain otherwise. To do so is to contradict all known facts and to contradict God's own Word.

What do you think marie glen?

  Most definitely! Aion is eon! It does change so much!!
  Also changes ?aionion kolasis? - eonian korrection - to, imo, age of correction, an 8th ?day? (millennial day). ..God having big banged the universe into as is, but like a clock not running, then was set in motion.. wound up to run course for eight millennial days.. No millions/billions of years of a steady state explosion, quiTe the aion thAt would be!

Which iS the whole debate? the crucible that separates the chaff from off the kernal of wheat (the self as first and foremost fully removed from humanity on the 8th day..) during the process we think of as Judgment Day, the GWT (millennial) day/age ..is said fiery correction which is translated as its extreme, punishment, is it the proverbial/imaginary(!) forever, or for a duration of time?
     If we look at Rev chapter 20, we see it is written like describing the crests of waves and not much of the in between the crests (very common in prophecy). So I figure what we have is AIONS. Two of them which make up Jesus? long second advent.

Let me bring up the rich man and Lazarus parable. SURELY? It is initiaL conditions of some during that (quote) 8th day (Lev.23:36, Jn.7:37). Thus AIONION or that is pertaining to the age as the adjective or aion/eon/age. ..That inner, outside of the Light darkness, gnashing of teeth.. BUT! Because Jesus (quote) draw all to himself, Jn.12:32, that will progress to weeping.. beating self up over things, even with many stripes ..think cruel, heartless despots, etc, Christ Crucified strong enough to appease eveRy conscience ..ppl get led astray not realizing His words have to communicate with all hearts and consciences.. like snowflakes we melt away from HiS message (the other extreme from the eternal torment ?gospel?.

I think it?s Matthew 25:46 where Jesus said some will rise into aionion kolasin / eonian korrection / into an aGe of correction ..which (surely?) can onLy be a reference to the veRy much implied Second Resurrection which is as Rev.20 says, is aFter THE thousand years/millennium, the 7th, a Sabbath rest from enmity..

Not sure if I?ve made a lot of sense in my sort of rambling..

.. It?s Jn.5:28,29 where the Lord says aLL those in the tombs/graves will hear His voice and will rise, some in the resurrection into Life (Mt.25:1-13!! whAt is the door to?!) i.e. into that Sabbath millennium (upon Earth).. AND (he continues) some into the resurrection of judgment.. which Mt.25:46 he called aionion kolasis/kolasin (eon of correction.. 2Tim.3:16! Mt.25:10)

It?s only after alll that.. that the lion will eat straw like the ox and the bear will graze with the cow.. a new heavens and earth (a fieRy regenesis, the 3 mentions of lake of fire are at huGe fiery events..) Trees of life for the health of the nations.. And the NeW JeRuSaLeM upon earth ..new ruLing force.. Life, Love, Perfection.. (God is Life and is perfect so imperfect is this slow gehenna crucible, entropy. Six millennial days for things to run their course, because if there had been no option to stray in Eden, creation would be an ant farm..? And if not allowed to run its course, what would be the point?

In short a week plus one(outline) as sorta aions.. also the holy days of Lev.23 as the two advents prophesied, Spring, his first so brief advent, and Fall his long second advent, fullscope version of the first short one? But with helpers serving, called reigning? Wearing crowns of Life (not metal, Dan.2;7:7,19)

God?s (quote) administration of aions.. Eph.1:10?

p.s. asking me what i think, haha.. I can be a little long winded.. :blush: