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Title: How old was man
Post by: micah7:9 on August 12, 2010, 05:53:14 AM
This is a question that came to me as I wondered about what I read and things said on this site.
Gen 2:7  And Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Just how old was the man of Gen.2:7? Certainly he was not an infant, unable to do for its self, perhaps a teenager, strong enough to bear a load and a job, maybe a young man, even an adult. Just how old was this first man.
The question is not to be taken as a type of humor, I would like to hear some reasonable thoughts, for thoughts is all they can be. As for my two cents, I  will go with a young man, or a young adult.
The fact that I do not believe he was younger does not say man was not an infant first.
Im just putting it out there. Thanks  Peace and Love Through Jesus
Title: Re: How old was man
Post by: LS on August 12, 2010, 06:42:52 AM
Hi Micah - people who have died for a time sometimes say that loved ones they encounter and they themselves seem to be around 30.   This is also is about the age of Jesus when He was crucified.   I guess I have an image of early 30s being kind of "prime time" for man in physical and mental maturity. 

So if I were to speculate, I would image Adam as "ideal man" to be what is to us our early 30s.



Title: Re: How old was man
Post by: micah7:9 on August 12, 2010, 06:53:34 AM
Unless some other sway comes about I will have to say that is where my thoughts are.

Thank you. He Blesses.
Title: Re: How old was man
Post by: giftsimple on August 15, 2010, 11:42:53 PM
We have the same birthday!

And we were born just a few hours apart!  And that means we are the same age!  How about that!



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Title: Re: How old was man
Post by: thinktank on August 16, 2010, 07:49:00 PM
Quote from: giftsimple on August 15, 2010, 11:42:53 PM
We have the same birthday!

And we were born just a few hours apart!  And that means we are the same age!  How about that!



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Hey Bruce  :bigGrin: I'm looking forward to your new movie coming out this month, all my favourite actors in it. Jet Li, Arnold Shwazechenegger, Stallone, Bruce Willis :happy3:
Title: Re: How old was man
Post by: WhiteWings on August 16, 2010, 09:19:04 PM
Two of your heroes in one movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1320253/)

Willis and Arnie likely are in a 5 second scene only. (no credits see above)
Just like the last Terminator movie.
5 seconds of Arnie. Well only his head stuck on a young body T800 chasis  :laughing7:
Title: Re: How old was man
Post by: thinktank on August 16, 2010, 09:44:09 PM
Quote from: WhiteWings on August 16, 2010, 09:19:04 PM
Two of your heroes in one movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1320253/)

Willis and Arnie likely are in a 5 second scene only. (no credits see above)
Just like the last Terminator movie.
5 seconds of Arnie. Well only his head stuck on a young body T800 chasis  :laughing7:

Oh well at least stone cold steve austin will be there to preach 3:16.  :laughing7:

It's an interesting title that Stallone choose, that line is one of my favourites in Rambo 2, when the cute woman asks him what ya mean your expendable.

Title: Re: How old was man
Post by: WhiteWings on August 16, 2010, 10:28:41 PM
Verse 3:16.
But what book?
Judging his matches it must be
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:YUtn2sk8fL2yEM:http://secure.paragraphpublishing.net/retail/media/store/big_book_beer.jpg)
Title: Re: How old was man
Post by: onlytruth on August 16, 2010, 10:55:24 PM
hi thinktank, I live about 20 minutes away from the town where they filmed first blood...now that movie is a classic
Title: Re: How old was man
Post by: WhiteWings on August 16, 2010, 11:01:09 PM
Watch out for the sheriff :-)
Title: Re: How old was man
Post by: thinktank on August 16, 2010, 11:10:23 PM
Quote from: onlytruth on August 16, 2010, 10:55:24 PM
hi thinktank, I live about 20 minutes away from the town where they filmed first blood...now that movie is a classic

cool, that seems a nice little town, area. A bit far from places I guess though, how far is the nearest city?
Title: Re: How old was man
Post by: onlytruth on August 17, 2010, 01:43:58 AM
about an hour and 20 minutes from vancouver(where the 2010 winter olympics were held)
Title: Re: How old was man
Post by: thinktank on August 17, 2010, 06:44:44 PM
Quote from: onlytruth on August 17, 2010, 01:43:58 AM
about an hour and 20 minutes from vancouver(where the 2010 winter olympics were held)

Not too far then, bit of a long drive to rent a dvd though  :laughing7:
Title: Re: How old was man
Post by: lomarah on August 20, 2010, 08:25:30 PM
LOL I love where this post went... haha.

LS it's interesting what you said about people seeing loved ones around 30 because shortly after my Grandfather died my Grandmother saw him in a dream as a young man, probably around that age, "as handsome as ever".  :HeartThrob:  :cloud9:
Title: Re: How old was man
Post by: micah7:9 on August 21, 2010, 07:35:07 AM
Quote from: LS on August 12, 2010, 06:42:52 AM
Hi Micah - people who have died for a time sometimes say that loved ones they encounter and they themselves seem to be around 30.   This is also is about the age of Jesus when He was crucified.   I guess I have an image of early 30s being kind of "prime time" for man in physical and mental maturity. 

So if I were to speculate, I would image Adam as "ideal man" to be what is to us our early 30s.
I agree with that. BUT....."people who have died for a time..." I just saw that... please explain. Thank you


Title: Re: How old was man
Post by: claypot on August 25, 2010, 04:15:36 AM
Micah, good question and one that makes me think more than ever that God's words to us are spiritual or symbolic or the like. It seems almost silly (to me anyway) to think of God creating a person like Mr. Ford creating a car. There is of course a purpose for all things physical but even Jesus used the non physical to get His message across to us.

Just my opinion.

cp
Title: Re: How old was man
Post by: WhiteWings on August 25, 2010, 07:42:07 AM
Quote from: LS on August 12, 2010, 06:42:52 AM
Hi Micah - people who have died for a time sometimes say that loved ones they encounter and they themselves seem to be around 30.   This is also is about the age of Jesus when He was crucified.   I guess I have an image of early 30s being kind of "prime time" for man in physical and mental maturity. 

So if I were to speculate, I would image Adam as "ideal man" to be what is to us our early 30s.
KJVGen 5:5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

Does 930 include or exclude those 30 years?
Title: Re: How old was man
Post by: thinktank on August 25, 2010, 07:39:45 PM
Quote from: WhiteWings on August 25, 2010, 07:42:07 AM
Quote from: LS on August 12, 2010, 06:42:52 AM
Hi Micah - people who have died for a time sometimes say that loved ones they encounter and they themselves seem to be around 30.   This is also is about the age of Jesus when He was crucified.   I guess I have an image of early 30s being kind of "prime time" for man in physical and mental maturity.  

So if I were to speculate, I would image Adam as "ideal man" to be what is to us our early 30s.
KJVGen 5:5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

Does 930 include or exclude those 30 years?

He wasn't 30, only appeared to be 30. I'd say he'd be more like 20, but has the mind of a baby, why he did not notice he was naked, didn't even notice his wife, (she must have been distraught  :laughing7:)
but after eating the tree of knowledge, now their eyes are opened and they are learned people.

I can relate, today i'm one year older but still have the mind similar to Adams I could watch naked woman all day and it would not bother me.  :laughing7:
Title: Re: How old was man
Post by: micah7:9 on August 25, 2010, 08:20:54 PM
Quote from: WhiteWings on August 25, 2010, 07:42:07 AM
Quote from: LS on August 12, 2010, 06:42:52 AM
Hi Micah - people who have died for a time sometimes say that loved ones they encounter and they themselves seem to be around 30.   This is also is about the age of Jesus when He was crucified.   I guess I have an image of early 30s being kind of "prime time" for man in physical and mental maturity. 

So if I were to speculate, I would image Adam as "ideal man" to be what is to us our early 30s.
KJVGen 5:5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

Does 930 include or exclude those 30 years?

I dont know do you?
Title: Re: How old was man
Post by: micah7:9 on August 25, 2010, 08:26:04 PM
Quote from: claypot on August 25, 2010, 04:15:36 AM
Micah, good question and one that makes me think more than ever that God's words to us are spiritual or symbolic or the like. It seems almost silly (to me anyway) to think of God creating a person like Mr. Ford creating a car. There is of course a purpose for all things physical but even Jesus used the non physical to get His message across to us.

Just my opinion.

cp

I like your thoughts. I personally lean to an understanding that at least Gen. 2,3,4,5 and perhaps further, as an allegory. But I also believe I stand pretty much alone with my reasoning.
Title: Re: How old was man
Post by: claypot on August 26, 2010, 03:50:03 PM
You are definitely not alone.

I see that God has made what we call the physical yet I believe this physical is not the 'point', it is God's way of talking 'spiritual' to us. When we try to figure things out on a physical plane then unending discussions arise, not all bad mind you, just endless speculations and confusions.

Adam, Eve, Paul, Hitler, Bob down the road from me are or may be all physical people yet it's who or what they are in Adam and or Christ that is real IMO.

cp