Did you know that:

[Tony N]

no, it was in exodus at the end of the chapter

Chapter and verse please?

oops not exodus....heh it's Dueteronomy 34: 5-6

I see, here it is:

Deu 34:5-6  Moses, the servant of Yahweh, died there in the country of Moab at the bidding of Yahweh.  (6)  Then He entombed him in a ravine in the country of Moab opposite Beth-peor. And no man knows his tomb until this day.

But I wonder if "He entombed him" means He did it through the means of Michael just as in Job it is said God brought all the evil on Job where after all God used intermediaries to bring the evil on Job?

[IceDash]

nah, the "he" is God himself, just like in mountain sinai where moses and his elected priest elders sitting with God, (they saw his feet on sapphire floor, something like that)

[Tony N]

nah, the "he" is God himself, just like in mountain sinai where moses and his elected priest elders sitting with God, (they saw his feet on sapphire floor, something like that)

When David numbered Israel it is stated that Satan made him number Israel and in another place it is stated God made David number Israel. So even though Satan made him number Israel, the buck stops with God because God made Satan make David do the dastardly deed.

[IceDash]

nah, the "he" is God himself, just like in mountain sinai where moses and his elected priest elders sitting with God, (they saw his feet on sapphire floor, something like that)

When David numbered Israel it is stated that Satan made him number Israel and in another place it is stated God made David number Israel. So even though Satan made him number Israel, the buck stops with God because God made Satan make David do the dastardly deed.

Did you also know that moses and his 70 elders of israel having a picnic with God, God "himself" sit with them, drank and ate! I AM NOT JOKING, God doesn't even hurt them! read Exodus 24: 9-11

[Tony N]

nah, the "he" is God himself, just like in mountain sinai where moses and his elected priest elders sitting with God, (they saw his feet on sapphire floor, something like that)

When David numbered Israel it is stated that Satan made him number Israel and in another place it is stated God made David number Israel. So even though Satan made him number Israel, the buck stops with God because God made Satan make David do the dastardly deed.

Did you also know that moses and his 70 elders of israel having a picnic with God, God "himself" sit with them, drank and ate! I AM NOT JOKING, God doesn't even hurt them! read Exodus 24: 9-11

I know. If God would have touched Moses' dead body He would have been unclean according to His own law.

[IceDash]

Jesus the most perfect lamb touch alot sinners

[sheila]

  there is no law against love

[Tony N]

Jesus the most perfect lamb touch alot sinners

Did He touch the dead while they were dead?  :bigGrin:

[IceDash]

which is why I believe God did bury moses out of love, and however it true God is holy but it doesn't make sense if God touch us make him unclean since Jesus said we have the holy spirit (which is God himself also) So if the holy spirit touch us and come to us inside ourseleve make them unclean? doesn't add it up...

[Tony N]

which is why I believe God did bury moses out of love, and however it true God is holy but it doesn't make sense if God touch us make him unclean since Jesus said we have the holy spirit (which is God himself also) So if the holy spirit touch us and come to us inside ourseleve make them unclean? doesn't add it up...

Thanks for the thoughts IceDash.
I don't think we are unclean. We are saved and justified and made righteous through Christ's blood.
Tit 2:14 "Who gives Himself for us, that He should be redeeming us from all lawlessness and be cleansing for Himself a people to be about Him, zealous for ideal acts."

But I know what you mean. It is just that in the Old Testament when it is stated that God did this or that He often uses intermediaries. He still does it, but through someone else. But that's cool if you believe God buried Moses.

[sheila]

 Hi Brothers,

   Father does fulfill his spiritual law in love. Death has no hold

  on Him, but when He does  touch death willingly,death is no

more.

  in other words...the plague of death does not cling to Him..

  for HE IS DEATHS PLAGUE

  Hosea 13;14 I will ransom them from the power of the grave

  I will redeem them from death. O'death I will be thy plagues

O'grave I will be thy destruction. I WILL HAVE NO COMPASSION

[just as deaths plagues show no compassion,so shall God

show no compassion  to death,He will totaly obliterate it]

[Nathan]

I was on vacation when this conversation took place . . .would have loved to have been in it when it was going on . . .it's a great line of thought.

I see it just a bit differently as to what Moses saw . . first, he wanted to see God's face and God said no . . .and I think . . .as near as I could follow what was being said on this . .I think I agree that this is a dimensional truth and that if Moses were to be able to see God's face, that would place Moses "ahead" of God.  It's kind of like as I walk, the things in front of me are things ahead of me, they are places I have not yet been.  So for Moses to see God's face, Moses would have to first be where God has never been, thus, that would make it impossible for Moses to see the face.

But God allowed him to see his "hinderparts".  Actually it "says" back parts . . .but the definition says "hinder" parts.  And what you're saying is, the mount of transfiguration is the back parts . . .but in all due respect, I don't see the revelation being the back parts there, but the face . .the identity of the nature of who Jesus really is . . .Moses and Elijah are the two other elements of the three that were hidded "in" the ark.  If you look at the whole picture there. . . the two cherubim faced each other . .eye-to-eye and in their unity, God's presence "resided". 

In the ark were the elements of the law, the prophets and the manna . . .Moses represented the law, Elijah represented the prophets and Christ represented the manna . . .those three things combined were not the backparts of God . .they were the heart of God.  Again, this is just my pov . . .

So . . in that light, for me, the back parts of God are things that God had already done.  It's beleived that Moses is the one that recorded the first 5 books . . . which means that he had to see them in order to write them . . .I believe this incident in Exodus 33 was when God revealed to Moses the things he'd done . . .his back parts.  Rather than fast forward him thousands of years ahead of time, he took him back to the beginning . . .and being there, he recorded what he saw and heard.

In reading this passage over again, I can't help but notice the order of things that happened that "allowed" Moses to see anything at all.  God planted him "upon a rock".

God put Moses "on" the rock . . .and as his glory was passing by, God slipped Moses "in" the Rock.  It reminds me of when Jesus described the Holy Ghost to the disciples . .telling them that currently, his spirit was "with" them, but soon, his spirit would be "in" them.  Interesting pattern there.

Exodus 33
20And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live. 21 And the LORD said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock:  22And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by:  23And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.