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Discussions Relating to Universal Reconciliation => Discussions on Universal Salvation => Topic started by: Captain.Theophilus on September 24, 2013, 11:12:07 PM

Title: Calvinism vs. Arminianism debate proves universal salvation
Post by: Captain.Theophilus on September 24, 2013, 11:12:07 PM
I think this has been posted before, but I wanted to reiterate it.

One of the main problems Calvinists have against Arminians is that they assert Arminiams have no security since it always comes back to their free-will choice.

Arminians assert that Calvinists worship a capricious God who would just as likely send someone to Hell as Heaven.

Both are correct, which is why both are wrong. How is it that more people don't see the OBVIOUS middle ground of universal salvation?

Moreover, Arminians hate about universalists what they love about themselves (God loves everyone), and Calvinists hate about universalists what they love about themselves (God saves whom he will.)

Clearly if he loves everyone he WILLS to save everyone! Nurrdur!
Title: Re: Calvinism vs. Arminianism debate proves universal salvation
Post by: Tom on September 24, 2013, 11:33:06 PM
http://www.auburn.edu/~allenkc/partuniv.html
Title: Re: Calvinism vs. Arminianism debate proves universal salvation
Post by: Lazarus Short on September 25, 2013, 01:53:44 AM
Ah!  Eternal security at last!  A life and a love which never end... :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob:
Title: Re: Calvinism vs. Arminianism debate proves universal salvation
Post by: Captain.Theophilus on September 26, 2013, 03:55:11 PM
Quote from: Tom on September 24, 2013, 11:33:06 PM
http://www.auburn.edu/~allenkc/partuniv.html

What an excellent resource! Thank you!
Title: Re: Calvinism vs. Arminianism debate proves universal salvation
Post by: marie glen on September 26, 2013, 05:33:47 PM
Quote from: Captain.Theophilus on September 24, 2013, 11:12:07 PM
I think this has been posted before, but I wanted to reiterate it.

One of the main problems Calvinists have against Arminians is that they assert Arminiams have no security since it always comes back to their free-will choice.

Arminians assert that Calvinists worship a capricious God who would just as likely send someone to Hell as Heaven.

Both are correct, which is why both are wrong. How is it that more people don't see the OBVIOUS middle ground of universal salvation?

Moreover, Arminians hate about universalists what they love about themselves (God loves everyone), and Calvinists hate about universalists what they love about themselves (God saves whom he will.)

Clearly if he loves everyone he WILLS to save everyone! Nurrdur!

Absolutely! I absolutely agree! And how you said it was "right on!"
Title: Re: Calvinism vs. Arminianism debate proves universal salvation
Post by: marie glen on September 26, 2013, 05:52:55 PM
Quote from: Tom on September 24, 2013, 11:33:06 PM
http://www.auburn.edu/~allenkc/partuniv.html


...and because God is "the best" the 'end' result will be the best..


This was a great link, I saved it and am going to post the link on facebook, thanks..